Israel losing global support over Gaza bombing, Biden says

[DudleySquat]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Because he is a buffoon with real power to mess up people's lives.

 

Don't watch the buffoon; keep an eye on what they are doing while the buffoon is yammering.

[metisdead]

An off topic history lesson post contravening our Community Standards and a comment on moderation has been removed.

[Jeff the Chef]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Easy.

You're openly rabidly anti Zionist. 

Zionism simply means a liberation movement of political self determination for the Jewish people realized in the foundation of the sovereign nation state of Israel.

Anti Zionism equals opposing the existence of the state of Israel.

Yes even a very small percentage of Jews are anti Zionist as well.

Cheers.

Yes I am openly anti Zionist, you carry on believing the greatness of Zionism while the rest of humanity sees them for what they really are, arrogant brutish killers.

[Jingthing]

 

4 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Yes I am openly anti Zionist, you carry on believing the greatness of Zionism while the rest of humanity sees them for what they really are, arrogant brutish killers.

They? The Jews? 

 

Being a Zionist (supporting the right of Israel to exist) should in no way be conflated with supporting everything the state of Israel has done.

Your POV makes me vomitous.

Lots of countries have done crap things yet mysteriously it is ONLY the one tiny nation state associated with Jews that you and other River to the Sea mobsters think should not be allowed to exist.
Again words matter.

Anti Zionist equals being opposed to the existence of Israel.

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by Jingthing

[Jeff the Chef]

17 hours ago, DudleySquat said:

 

Can you define the "claptrap" ideas? 

Yep, claptrap = right-wing-zealot Zionists who defend their ilk through thick and thin no matter what.

[Neeranam]

Must be Hamas fighters in 70% of Gazan homes!

 

Israel-Hamas war live: Israel bombards Gaza as 1.5 million left homeless

 

Israeli bombardments have destroyed 70 percent of Gaza homes, says the government’s media office.

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2023/12/31/israel-hamas-war-live-destroyed-homes-leave-1-5-million-homeless-in-gaza

 

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

In years to come I wouldn't be surprised if being called a Zionist would mean a supporter of the killing of thousands of innocent women, children and old men.

It already is by ignorant people. 

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

In years to come I wouldn't be surprised if being called a Zionist would mean a supporter of the killing of thousands of innocent women, children and old men.

You seem to have no idea what it means now, why would anyone think you would be surprised by what it means in years to come? 

 

 

[Jingthing]

The sad reality is that most of the Free Free Palestine protests in the world now are actually about fomenting hatred of Jews.

 

[Morch]

1 hour ago, ezzra said:

To be honest with you, really, really honest? no one in Oz like those reg heads, Arabs, sub continent and the multitude of jetsam and flotsam that populated Australia in the last ten years, Aussies love their country just as it was, but with a Labour's

Albanese government being a staunch righty not much else can done, now go ahead and call me what you like but i know

how many in Australia now feels...

 

2 Australians, including suspected Hezbollah fighter, killed in IDF strike in Lebanon

https://www.timesofisrael.com/2-australians-including-suspected-hezbollah-fighter-killed-in-idf-strike-in-lebanon/

[Neeranam]

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The vast majority of Jews are Zionist so face the music -- you hate Jews.

Unfounded and inflammatory claim by suggesting that anyone critical of Zionism hates Jews.

This is an example of a "poisoning the well" fallacy.

[Neeranam]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

The sad reality is that most of the Free Free Palestine protests in the world now are actually about fomenting hatred of Jews.

 

Nonsense, it's about Israel killing thousands of innocent people, including 8,000 children.

It isn't rocket science.

[Wobblybob]

8 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

In years to come I wouldn't be surprised if being called a Zionist would mean a supporter of the killing of thousands of innocent women, children and old men.

You should learn the meaning of words before embarrassing yourself on a public forum, your hatred of Jews is all too apparent and just disgusting trolling!

[Morch]

1 hour ago, ozimoron said:

 

I'm an oz and I like both equally. You're spreading BS. There's a lot of sympathy for Palestinians and for Israelis in Australia. That's the problem with the far right. They think everyone shares the same ideology.

 

@ozimoron

 

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I like both equally

 

Nothing in your posts conveys this.

 

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There's a lot of sympathy for Palestinians and for Israelis in Australia.

 

There are more anti-Israeli protests then there are pro.

Rhetoric employed is sometimes off the charts.

[Neeranam]

25 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Yes I think that hateful post could compete for being among the most hateful and disgusting of the year.

The one by Ezzra could be worse, IMHO, the song about Muslims.

[Jeff the Chef]

14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It already is by ignorant people. 

Good good, just goes to show not everyone is ignorant.

[Bkk Brian]

1 minute ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Brown paper bag for Bkk Brian

 

And what has this comment:

"cloud cuckoo land strawman deflection from a member who has previously stated he has "no sympathy for Israel and its people"

got to do with what was posted?

Like I said, vile hate speech from Jeff

 

 

[Neeranam]

28 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The vast majority of Jews are Zionist so face the music -- you hate Jews.

 

Stop using Zionist as a slur word.

Accusing someone of hating Jews simply because they may be critical of Zionism is a form of poisoning the well. It attempts to undermine any argument or position the person might present by associating them with a highly negative and emotionally charged accusation. This fallacy is a distraction from addressing the actual content of the argument or discussion.

[Jingthing]

 

 

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

That is not true.

You have posted openly antisemitic comment earlier on these topics.

You also have issues with Israel's existence.

 

 

Obviously but he realizes that makes him look bad, thus the sleazy attempt at obfuscation. 

A typical case of someone that uses "anti-Zionist" as a cover. 

Edited December 31, 2023 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

5 minutes ago, Trippy said:

Why do so many people on here hate Jews? Is it a religious thing, or did a Jew wrong you in some way, or maybe you were just brought up to hate them for no reason? 

The hatred by some people is so obvious even though they might deny it. 

It's complicated. It's a social disease that adapts to whatever is happening in the world and even happens in nations with no or few Jews. Israel demonization is a more current adaptation of that ancient hatred.

[Jeff the Chef]

8 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

That is not true.

You have posted openly antisemitic comment earlier on these topics.

You also have issues with Israel's existence.

 

 

In your opinion, not mine.

[Morch]

Just now, Jeff the Chef said:

In your opinion, not mine.

 

No, not just in my opinion, obviously.

[CharlieH]

CLOSED

 

the amount of inflammatory trolling going on here is just ridiculous for grown mature men.

 

Nothing wrong with having opposing views etc and by all means debate your point of view, but this persistence with name calling and use of "hate" is disproportionate and needs to Stop.