45 minutes ago, IamNoone88 said:

Starbucks in London will not even heat a muffin upon request just incase the staff burn their fingers. You go figure it out. 

So in response to a firework factory explosion that killed 23 people, you compared that with a hot muffin in starbucks, to show us how regulations are wrong?

 

So I will ask again, do you think there should be no regulations?

 

Do you think that the a factory explosion that kills 23 is acceptable?

 

 

The primary ingredient in fireworks is black powder aka gunpowder. It is very sensitive to ignition from sparks and friction . It is likely that the factory was making gunpwder on site and filling fireworks.

Unlike the last firework incident in Thailand this factory was in an isolated location or the death toll could have been much higher. The use of light construction of buildings is deliberate in order to avoid confinement of explosion so no surprise that the 'factory' was levelled. The license, and regulations if followed would limit the number of workers permitted in certain areas and the amount of explosive stored on site.

The good news is that the blast did not blow any of the 'bling' off the police chief's uniform.

My sympathies to the families of those who died in the explosion.

 

Fireworks are shot off at all hours of the night EVERY night  on Jomtien Beach ,

even though it is NOT any special day on the calendar. 

A couple of tourists get their jollies and manage to create the effect of a WAR ZONE  

with bombs waking up thousands of nearby resident,  into the wee hours of the night EVERY night.

 

It is totally unnecessary to set off explosive noise makers late at night

in order for a small few to have fun on their holidays

at the expense of the sleep and sanity of thousands of nearby denizen.

POLICE - please effect some law and order , and bring a halt to this insanity.

 

Fast Forward *5 minutes* & * 12 minutes*  to see & hear what I'm talking about

-- this is going on EVERY night, not just New Years Eve

*****************************************************

 

Not the first and not the last time that fireworks causes people's death. 

Absolutely nobody needs fireworks! 

But I have to agree that the world is already overcrowded. 🤷🏼‍♂️

So ... build a new "factory", hire new staff - and wait for the next blast. 

It's an  normal  hazard of the Trade If you play with Fire you will get burned .

Health and safety Issues Playing a big Factor in Factories like this.

Survivors tell of tragic losses in firecracker factory explosion

 

 

Two people, happy to have survived a massive blast at a firecracker factory in Suphan Buri province on Wednesday, say they are sad over the loss of many of their family members and relatives in the accident, which claimed 23 lives.

 

Namfon Boonklom said she left the factory shortly before the explosion, because one of her sons needed some money and had insisted that she go home to give it to him. “Usually, he would visit the factory to get the money, but yesterday he changed his mind. He called me repeatedly, so I left the factory for home,” she said.

 

The explosion occurred about 30 minutes later. Another son of hers called her and told her about the accident. That is when she learned about it.

 

Full story: Thai PBS 2024-01-18

 

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Call for overhaul of outdated firework factory licensing laws after Suphan Buri tragedy

 

 

Representatives of the Interior Ministry and Industrial Works Department will be invited for a discussion about amending the outdated law governing the licencing of firework factories, House Industrial Affairs Committee chairman Akkaradet Wongpitakrote said.

 

He said that it is time for the obsolete law to be updated for public safety, following yesterday’s firework factory explosion in Suphan Buri, which killed at least 23 people.

 

According to the Factory Act, the setting up of a facility which hires fewer than 50 people or is equipped with machinery under 50 horse power does not require a license from the Industrial Works Department, said the United Thai Nation party MP.

 

Full story: Thai PBS 2024-01-18

 

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And Thaksin wants to build a Nuclear power plant....... what a great idea "NOT"

Social Development Min Responds to Suphanburi Factory Explosion

 

 

SUPHAN BURI (NNT) - Varawut Silpa-archa, Minister of Social Development and Human Security, has expressed his sorrow over the fireworks factory explosion in Suphanburi Province. His ministry is coordinating with all networks to provide on-site care for everyone affected.

 

Following yesterday's incident, the Ministry of Social Development and Human Security has established a war room to coordinate assistance efforts. All units of the ministry in Suphanburi and nearby provinces have been mobilized to expedite relief and compensation for those impacted by the event, including the deceased and the injured, and for repairing damaged homes.

 

Particularly in the affected area, coordination with the Governor of Suphanburi Province and all governmental units has been arranged to provide assistance and to reach out to every person affected. Local Members of Parliament and community leaders have been requested to closely look after the people.

 

Additionally, as the Vice President of the Banharn-Jamsai Silpa-archa Foundation, Varawut mentioned that the foundation is aware of children who have lost parents to the incident. The foundation will step in to cover their educational expenses.

 

Full story: NNT 2024-01-18

 

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Mental Care Unit Deployed to Assist Victims of Suphanburi Fireworks Factory Explosion

 

 

SUPHAN BURI (NNT) - Dr. Cholnan Srikaew, Minister of Public Health, has led a team to the province of Suphanburi to provide medical and public health assistance to those affected by the fireworks factory explosion. 

 

He dispatched the Mental Health Crisis Assessment and Treatment Team (MCATT) to the area to support the mental health of the families, and directed the Department of Health to monitor health and environmental impacts.

 

Dr. Cholnan stated that the immediate focus is on providing mental health care to the families of the deceased. Identification and confirmation of the victims' identities will be conducted by the forensic team from Chaophraya Yommaraj Hospital.

 

Regarding the health and environmental impacts of the chemical substances from the exploded fireworks, since the incident occurred in a rice field located over a kilometer away from residential areas and without nearby drinking water sources, the impact is expected to be minimal. However, the Department of Health has been assigned to closely monitor and ensure the safety and well-being of the nearby residents.

 

Previously, while attending the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, Prime Minister Srettha Thavisin called officials in Thailand to stay updated on the situation. He instructed the Governor of Suphanburi Province to expedite resolution and provide immediate hospitalization for the injured.

 

Following this, the Prime Minister instructed regional police to also closely monitor the situation. The Explosive Ordnance Disposal unit has already been deployed to scan the area for any remaining explosive threats.

 

The premier also said that legal procedures regarding the legitimacy of the factory's operations are to be addressed subsequently.

 

By Naark Rojanasuvan

Caption: Image: google.com

 

Full story: NNT 2024-01-18

 

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The ones they will it blame on are probably one or more of the dead employees. Actually they could be even right ...

Ugh the modern equivalent of working at the coal face before decent pumps were around to draw out the coal damp. 

23 hours ago, Blue Muton said:

There was a big explosion and fire at the dragon museum in Suphanburi city a few years back and they had to rebuild a lot of it.

 

You have to be careful when storing/handling/displaying dead dragons.

 

They are liable to explosive spontaneous combustion if their fire chamber isn't properly drained during the postmortem preservation process.

 

What happens is that any residual fire liquid crystallises and.........etc, etc.

 

 

Edited January 18, 20242 yr by Enoon

13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

According to the Factory Act, the setting up of a facility which hires fewer than 50 people or is equipped with machinery under 50 horse power does not require a license from the Industrial Works Department,

And what about factories that handle explosive materials, regardless of how may employees there aare?

Living in Thailand is like living in the old wild west, you have to take the good with the bad.  If you want a nanny state government, seek life elsewhere,  Thailand is not for the easily offended.

Maybe they should reopen as a demolition firm, that was serious ground zero.

It needs just one spark, and that could come from machinery being used, or faulty wiring.

at least it was not in the middle of a moo baan

21 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

So in response to a firework factory explosion that killed 23 people, you compared that with a hot muffin in starbucks, to show us how regulations are wrong?

 

So I will ask again, do you think there should be no regulations?

 

Do you think that the a factory explosion that kills 23 is acceptable?

 

 

You really do have a bee in your bonnet don't you.

18 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

Banharn-Jamsai Silpa-archa Foundation

 

Interestingly dedicated to a man who's nicknames were 'slippery eel' and 'Mr. ATM'.

4 hours ago, bbko said:

Living in Thailand is like living in the old wild west, you have to take the good with the bad.  If you want a nanny state government, seek life elsewhere,  Thailand is not for the easily offended.

 

Shame the 23 poor souls who were killed in the explosion were unable to take that advice. 

56 minutes ago, IamNoone88 said:

You really do have a bee in your bonnet don't you.

No bee in my bonnet, just calling out your silly posts.

 

So you will not answer my questions, and so you must still think that a hot muffin justifies having no regulation, and these deaths are acceptable.

 

Another candidate for Dunning Kruger research, a bar stool expert, with no experience, qualifications or training on anything relevant.

Edited January 19, 20242 yr by Georgealbert

On 1/18/2024 at 5:00 PM, snoop1130 said:

Namfon Boonklom said she left the factory shortly before the explosion, because one of her sons needed some money and had insisted that she go home to give it to him.

 

Lucky for her. But if the son was mine I'd have told him to get ******. Typical Thai male entitlement, bowed down to by the mother. Pathetic. And we've all seen or read of the result. 

On 1/18/2024 at 8:02 AM, IamNoone88 said:

Health & Safety regulations have gone mad in Europe ... its all about control. Here, well its pretty much an after thought.

 

There's a reason for the H and S rules, but people complain about them all the time. Don't have them though and .....

Another report stated that the factory had permission to store a maximum of 2 tonnes on Potassium Chloride.

Thank goodness it was not Potassium Chlorate.........😋

Defence Min Confirms Licensing for Fireworks Factory in Suphanburi Tragedy

 

It is notable that the factory had previously experienced an explosion on November 30th, 2022.

 

https://thainews.prd.go.th/nbtworld/news/view/39065/?bid=1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

20 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

No bee in my bonnet, just calling out your silly posts.

 

So you will not answer my questions, and so you must still think that a hot muffin justifies having no regulation, and these deaths are acceptable.

 

Another candidate for Dunning Kruger research, a bar stool expert, with no experience, qualifications or training on anything relevant.

buzz buzz buzz

Just now, IamNoone88 said:

buzz buzz buzz

 

Just now, IamNoone88 said:

buzz buzz buzz

So you have nothing.

 

Sad little keyboard warrior.

 

Maybe you should volunteer to help remove the bodies next time there are deaths after a lack of regulations, or would we find you shouting at a girl in Starbucks that your muffin is not hot enough.