Here's what we know so far about the Kansas City shooting

 

A day of celebration – to mark the Kansas City Chiefs' third Super Bowl victory in the last five years – turned into tragedy on Wednesday.

At least one person was killed and up to more than a dozen others were injured in a shooting after a rally near Union Station in Kansas City, Missouri, police said.

 

The shooting is at least the 48th mass shooting in the United States so far this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive.

Officials are expected to give another update soon on the investigation.

Here's what we know so far:

 

Victims: One person is dead and up to 15 others are wounded after the shooting, according to Kansas City Police Chief Stacey Graves. All Kansas City Chiefs players, coaches and staff are safe and accounted for, Mayor Quinton Lucas said.

What happened: The shooting erupted on the west side of Union Station, Graves said. When officers got there, they took two armed people into custody and immediately started helping people who were hurt. Officials are in the beginning stages of figuring out what happened, Graves said, and law enforcement is working to clear surrounding areas. The White House said President Joe Biden has been briefed and federal law enforcement is helping local law enforcement.

 

This is a developing story CNN live updates here

 

15.02.24

 

10 minutes ago, Social Media said:

The shooting is at least the 48th mass shooting in the United States so far this year

When will the US ever learn?

Too many politicians are on the NRA and gun manufacturers payroll.....

Ban guns, this will all stop or at the least make difficult to even own a gun.

Look at the countries around the world that have done this.

They have all reduced gun violence....

 

Has anyone interviewed Travis Kelce?

 

Maybe someone in the crowd suggested he had a bad game? 

Did Taylor refuse to give a free inpromptu singalong?

 

living the american dream nightmare.

1 hour ago, flyingtlger said:

When will the US ever learn?

Too many politicians are on the NRA and gun manufacturers payroll.....

Ban guns, this will all stop or at the least make difficult to even own a gun.

Look at the countries around the world that have done this.

They have all reduced gun violence....

 

It will never happen here but that being said we could certainly strengthen background checks close gun show loopholes the gun owner must be trained and licensed ban semi and full auto long guns.personally I’d prefer if they left semi auto hand guns alone there is a place for them in home defense this whole tragedy sucks big time 

Only 48 ... the year is starting off slow.

 

Yearly event during every celebration of a 'Championship' win, along with a riot and looting usually.   What better way to celebrate than the gift free sh!t 

6 hours ago, Social Media said:

The shooting is at least the 48th mass shooting in the United States so far this year

That's about one per day...

There were 800 likely armed police officers at the event.

 

'Wednesday's shooting outside Union Station happened despite the presence of more than 800 police officers who were in the building and nearby'.

NRA: 'Only Thing That Stops A Bad Guy With A Gun Is A Good Guy With A Gun'.

 

Obviously, the gun huggers will not be insulting our intelligence again with this NRA propaganda.

Instead of logically addressing this daily American tragedy, there will just be the usual bunkum of 'hearts and prayers' and 'guns don't kill people'.

 

How the ‘good guy with a gun’ became a deadly American fantasy | PBS NewsHour

 

Gunfire at Chiefs' Super Bowl celebration kills 1 and wounds nearly two-dozen, including children - The Washington Post (archive.md)

When they say Biden has been informed about anything, the expression "in one ear and out the other " comes to mind.

Who were the shooters?

10 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Who were the shooters?

 

I don't believe they have released the names yet although there is some footage of the arrest. Looks like a couple of 20 somethings or possible even teenagers.

 

 

Incredibly brave takedown by 2 members of the public at 1:30 in the video below. Maximum respect to those guys.

 

 

 

34 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Who were the shooters?

 

Guaranteed they're people who already aren't allowed to own or possess guns.  As if tighter gun control will keep guns away from the bad guys with multiple felonies on their records.

 

 

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42 minutes ago, John Drake said:

Who were the shooters?

Likely MAGA followers.

21 minutes ago, Srikcir said:

Likely MAGA followers.

 

Ah.  The TDS is strong in this group. Nothing in this story even suggests a Trump connection.

 

But KC generally votes 60% Dem.  And that probably explains why the shooters weren't already locked up.  Soft on crime...

 

49 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Guaranteed they're people who already aren't allowed to own or possess guns.  As if tighter gun control will keep guns away from the bad guys with multiple felonies on their records.

Yeah right!

'There are also no restrictions on gun ownership for people who have been convicted of violent crimes, and firearms are not required to be locked up to prevent children from accessing them'.
 

'In 2021, Missouri enacted a law called the "Second Amendment Preservation Act," which made federal gun regulations illegal statewide, and prohibited law enforcement from enforcing any federal laws that “infringe on the people’s right to keep and bear arms.”

Kansas City shooting: The gun laws in the state of Missouri | The Independent

1 hour ago, mr336 said:

When they say Biden has been informed about anything, the expression "in one ear and out the other " comes to mind.

The expression that comes to my mind  "What you talking about Willis" ?       

I'm thinking only one dead so far is pretty good. I suspect the shooters had very little gun training, a good thing.

1 hour ago, Srikcir said:

Likely MAGA followers.

Very likely since the Black community is turning MAGA these days.

51 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Yeah right!

'There are also no restrictions on gun ownership for people who have been convicted of violent crimes, and firearms are not required to be locked up to prevent children from accessing them'.
 

'In 2021, Missouri enacted a law called the "Second Amendment Preservation Act," which made federal gun regulations illegal statewide, and prohibited law enforcement from enforcing any federal laws that “infringe on the people’s right to keep and bear arms.”

Kansas City shooting: The gun laws in the state of Missouri | The Independent

 

Like many cities in Red states, KC itself votes Blue.   Trusting the citizenry in a Blue area that doesn't lock up criminals is bound to cause problems.  The alternative is to punish the whole population for the crimes of the few.  The Dem way.

 

In Red areas and Blue areas, the majority of the people are decent and a few are criminals.  The difference is that, in a Red area, the criminals are the ones who live in fear.  In Blue areas, everyone else lives in fear.

 

Edited February 15, 20242 yr by impulse

1 hour ago, impulse said:

Like many cities in Red states, KC itself votes Blue.   Trusting the citizenry in a Blue area that doesn't lock up criminals is bound to cause problems.  The alternative is to punish the whole population for the crimes of the few.  The Dem way.

 

In Red areas and Blue areas, the majority of the people are decent and a few are criminals.  The difference is that, in a Red area, the criminals are the ones who live in fear.  In Blue areas, everyone else lives in fear.

 

You have not supported any of your fanciful claims with any reasoning or logic, having used a fruit salad of logical fallacies.

The fallacies of hasty generalization, false dilemma, and ad hominem, in no way contribute to your 'argument'.

If you wish to claim your 'opinion' as fact I suggest post some evidence from a credible source with a link.

 

 

Edited February 15, 20242 yr by LosLobo

2 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Guaranteed they're people who already aren't allowed to own or possess guns.  As if tighter gun control will keep guns away from the bad guys with multiple felonies on their records.

 

 

And how would YOU keep weapons away from the bad guys?

So, why did 2 or 3 guys decide to start shooting people? That's very strange.

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

Like many cities in Red states, KC itself votes Blue.   Trusting the citizenry in a Blue area that doesn't lock up criminals is bound to cause problems.  The alternative is to punish the whole population for the crimes of the few.  The Dem way.

 

In Red areas and Blue areas, the majority of the people are decent and a few are criminals.  The difference is that, in a Red area, the criminals are the ones who live in fear.  In Blue areas, everyone else lives in fear.

 

Instead of whining about politics, democrats, republican and poor gun laws, why don't YOU come up with good viable options to control guns across the USA?

12 hours ago, flyingtlger said:

When will the US ever learn?

Too many politicians are on the NRA and gun manufacturers payroll.....

Ban guns, this will all stop or at the least make difficult to even own a gun.

Look at the countries around the world that have done this.

They have all reduced gun violence....

 

Right! Like prohibiting alcohol in the US totally got rif of alcohol! If you ban guns all that does is strengthen the already existing black market over there, but it won't stop gun crimes! It most likely wouldn't even put a dent in it.

 

They need to strengthen the laws and make changes to how guns are being kept in the US because most guns used in crimes were stolen from vehicles and broken into homes because they leave their guns laying around in their houses and cars, which makes for easy access. 

Whatta pleasant and civilised society....

42 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And how would YOU keep weapons away from the bad guys?

When the second amendment was added to the constitution they did not have automatic weapons or RPG's. To be true to the constitution everyone should be allowed a single shot black powder gun and a sword. Shotguns and rifles for qualified hunters OK also. All the hand guns and military weapons need to be removed from society. You don't just take them from bad guys you take them from everybody the less guns in circulation the less shootings you will have.

a mass shooting a day.... well, 

2 hours ago, The Old Bull said:

When the second amendment was added to the constitution they did not have automatic weapons or RPG's. To be true to the constitution everyone should be allowed a single shot black powder gun and a sword. Shotguns and rifles for qualified hunters OK also. All the hand guns and military weapons need to be removed from society. You don't just take them from bad guys you take them from everybody the less guns in circulation the less shootings you will have.

Do you really think that will happen in the USA?

 

It hasn't happened in the last 250 years and it won't happen now.

 

How will you take them?

 

Just knock on the door and say please give me all your guns?

 

First you need to pass a federal law which cannot be superseded by any state law. That won't happen either.

 

So how would YOU collect all the guns?