bubblegum Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 4 hours ago, G_Money said: BLM and Antifa, the “brown shirts “ of the Democratic Party cause/caused more destruction and violence than the disturbance at the Capitol. Trump told them to go home peacefully. Maxine Waters and others encouraged the violence. Fact You like all Trumpers call conspiracy theories facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CG1 Blue Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, ozimoron said: False information. There are no detained illegal immigrants on Manua Island. As of last December there were 16 people detained on Nauru. There are none in PNG or Christmas Island either. source: Google Gemini. Do you know why? Because 'turn-back' and offshore processing policies stopped the boats from coming to Australia. Great deterrent IMO. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CG1 Blue Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 On 2/18/2024 at 10:02 AM, RuamRudy said: Of course much of the reason that they are 'used to that type of thing' back home is that the west, the Netherlands included, played a significant role in turning their countries into basket cases many years ago, and has done little to improve things since. We are reaping the fruits of our forefathers' actions. Mainly Italians actually. But since Eritrea gained independence they've been nothing but trouble. A one (Muslim) party state where for freedom of expression they rank lower than North Korea, border disputes leading to battles with neighbours Ethiopia and Djibouti, UN sanctions for undermining peace in Somalia. These are the actions of Eritreans, not their former occupiers. Sometimes you just have to face facts. They'll bring trouble to wherever they travel. Good luck Netherlands. 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, bubblegum said: You like all Trumpers call conspiracy theories facts. Shall I post the videos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 7 hours ago, ozimoron said: False information. There are no detained illegal immigrants on Manua Island. As of last December there were 16 people detained on Nauru. There are none in PNG or Christmas Island either. source: Google Gemini. https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/detention-australia-statistics/5/ https://www.refugeecouncil.org.au/operation-sovereign-borders-offshore-detention-statistics/2/ Edited February 19 by Scouse123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scouse123 Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 3 hours ago, CG1 Blue said: Do you know why? Because 'turn-back' and offshore processing policies stopped the boats from coming to Australia. Great deterrent IMO. Agreed, And it was done to teach them they can't enter Australia illegally and expect a free ride. It also sends a message to the traffickers that Australia won't tolerate it. This is something the UK is trying to implement with the Rwanda plan, but the do-gooders, (who mainly all live in leafy suburbs, not in towns and cities affected by rioting, violence, child rapes) from the UK and the European Court of human rights are obstructing the UK government at every opportunity. What about the rights of the indigenous population of a country to live in peace and harmony? Don't they have any rights? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celsius Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 2/17/2024 at 11:29 PM, flyingtlger said: You give them an inch.....they take a mile. NATO was quick to bomb my country when Albanians took Serbian land....first by procreating by dozens and then by force. I'm kinda enjoying the western stupidity to be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 10 hours ago, G_Money said: BLM and Antifa, the “brown shirts “ of the Democratic Party cause/caused more destruction and violence than the disturbance at the Capitol. Trump told them to go home peacefully. Maxine Waters and others encouraged the violence. Fact Come off it. Trump sat on his a$$ smirking about it all and quietly encouraging it. He only threw in ' go home peacefully ' when he was advised he could face insurrection charges at a later date, and was harassed by his advisers to make that statement. In a country the size of the USA, third largest in the World, with a population of 340 million, you are supposed to be a superpower and BIDEN and TRUMP is the best you can offer up to the World and the American people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Carter icp Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Scouse123 said: Come off it. Trump sat on his a$$ smirking about it all and quietly encouraging it. He only threw in ' go home peacefully ' when he was advised he could face insurrection charges at a later date, and was harassed by his advisers to make that statement. In a country the size of the USA, third largest in the World, with a population of 340 million, you are supposed to be a superpower and BIDEN and TRUMP is the best you can offer up to the World and the American people? Violent Riots Rock The Hague: Migrants Clash With Police, Sparking Chaos . Not about Trump in 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouse123 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: Violent Riots Rock The Hague: Migrants Clash With Police, Sparking Chaos . Not about Trump in 2020 For the record, I didn't go off-topic, I answered a poster that did if you care and take time to read above it. Edited February 19 by Scouse123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JonnyF Posted February 20 Popular Post Share Posted February 20 Ah, the cultural enrichers showing us all once again the value of mass uncontrolled immigration. Repeat after me, "Diversity is our strength". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2024 at 11:06 AM, herfiehandbag said: Governments perhaps see this through a different lens. A declining birthrate and ageing population are a major problem for western societies. Especially with that ageing population becoming increasingly dependent upon social spending. It is virtually politically impossible to make meaningful reductions to that level of social spending. The only real option ( short of large scale tax increases - political suicide) is to increase your population. "Breeding your own" (cynical but accurate description) takes far too long. The solution is to import people, thus increasing the "tax base". Business (which is very influential) likes this, it is a source of cheap labour, basically untainted (as they see it) by associated with organised labour. Certain political groups also approve it - if they consider immigrants more likely to vote for them; although that may be a double edged weapon! Public opinion is often opposed, but to be honest that only matters depending upon where the country is in its election cycle - the UK is in election year so the subject is exercising political minds. They note that the Netherlands ignored it and their political establishment came unstuck last year - not that so far, does that seem to be reflected in a change of government! Mass immigration does not work generally for the country but as you say the big bosses of businesses like it because new immigrants often work for less than the going rate and undermine the British workers . The migrants are happy with their wage which is much higher than their home country pays . They will send money to their relatives in their homeland , instead of it going into the UK economy . New immigrants often stay cheaply in the UK by living in grossly overcrowded accommodation . Legal immigrants who are allowed UK visas because being related to a settled immigrant , are often unemployed and claiming benefits . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 2/19/2024 at 7:17 PM, Wrwest said: Sadly, these types of incidents will only win greater support for the authoritarian right wing parties. Certainly, there is cause to aggressively address the issue but I fear the emotional, gut based reaction motivating a majority to forswear reason in a knee jerk move to authoritarian government model. This is the basis for my thinking that the Chinese government model is far too attractive ... we give you peace and economic security ... we do not tolerate any discord with our ruling. Thomas Hobbes versus John Locke in the classic debate as to the purpose of government. Sadly, these types of incidents will only win greater support for the authoritarian right wing parties. Pity then that the lefty liberals play into the hands of the right wing with barking immigration policies not supported by a majority of the population. "We know what is best and you are just stupid taxpayers, so shut up and accept it". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 13 hours ago, Scouse123 said: Agreed, And it was done to teach them they can't enter Australia illegally and expect a free ride. It also sends a message to the traffickers that Australia won't tolerate it. This is something the UK is trying to implement with the Rwanda plan, but the do-gooders, (who mainly all live in leafy suburbs, not in towns and cities affected by rioting, violence, child rapes) from the UK and the European Court of human rights are obstructing the UK government at every opportunity. What about the rights of the indigenous population of a country to live in peace and harmony? Don't they have any rights? They have the right to pay taxes. I think that's about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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