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Lease expired 3 years ago. Now they want more per month. I am already paying more than other rooms rent for and those are remodeled. I don't think the owner's son cares much about mom (I mean that protectively of her.) She is too old to manage things. Rooms here sire empty for YEARS. She can't pay the taxes and HOA and things without me and we have a mutual understanding. I offered to buy it above market if she carries. She sees how smart that is. Income, no taxes, not HOA, if I leave early she keeps the money and the room - simple. Son? NOPE! Add another 110k or move out. OK.

I have no issue paying an extra 500 a month for the convenience of not needing to move with my Parkinson's disease and a surgery coming up and living alone. No worries in any way except one. I will follow the laws and have a lawful contract or I am not leaving and I am not paying more. There is no enforceable contract. The old contract has no precisions for termination. I've lived here 3 years... My lawyer wants have a field day... sigh. Chill dude.

Anyone know the REAL laws of this rental situation of expired contract that does not lawfully follow 2018 L&T laws?

I find it quite humorous other than how the mother is being used.

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1 hour ago, SailingHome said:

2018 L&T laws?

The law that really only applies if landlord has 5 properties or more , does your landlord

have more than 5 properties ? that law ?

 

regards worgeordie

 

 

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6 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

The law that really only applies if landlord has 5 properties or more , does your landlord

have more than 5 properties ? that law ?

 

regards worgeordie

 

 

Good point. I realize that less than 5 properties the laws are skewed toward their favor, as it should be, really. At the same time a contract is enforceable. Unless I have a valid contract I can not register with Bangkok immigration and must use an agency. Immigration actually sent me an email explaining that I must be able to show hotel receipts, VALID rental contract, or my name in someone''s blue book. That without it I am "homeless".

I reallly don't think it is unreasonable to ask for a contract. Let me show you her son's idea of a new contract. Don't like it, leave. Either the guy wants the room for himself is just power trippin. FakeLease1.ENGLISH.thumb.jpg.e54c264d8d529773724f8b8f74f89a30.jpgFakeLease1.ENGLISH.thumb.jpg.e54c264d8d529773724f8b8f74f89a30.jpgFakeLease1.ENGLISH.thumb.jpg.e54c264d8d529773724f8b8f74f89a30.jpgFakeLease2.english.thumb.jpg.735fda585b7f6304dc36874e7d67af5f.jpg

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Will either pay the 500 more per month or find a new place it’s not hard you mentioned it a lot of vacancies. They are moving into one of them. It’s very easy to call a few people that will help you move. It’s very inexpensive here T. TIT.

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25 minutes ago, Andyfez said:

You said room stay empty for years. Why not just move to another room? Moving furniture for one room surely is not that difficult?

 

 

5 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said:

Will either pay the 500 more per month or find a new place it’s not hard you mentioned it a lot of vacancies. They are moving into one of them. It’s very easy to call a few people that will help you move. It’s very inexpensive here T. TIT.

Normally I too agree with you both.  What I didn't point out is that with Parkinson's the home becomes a tool to help manage your care. It takes a lot of time and expense to do that. The owner gave me permission to install things, for example, with the agreement I get to take them with me and leave the room as it was when I moved in. To them the water damage the old and broken AC unit caused to furniture is my fault. Normal war and tear? My fault, not normal wear and tear. The financial and time cost to move is very high plus I am heading to New York for a an invasive surgery next week and am facinga 6 week recovery - bad timing. 

I could seriously care less about 500 baht, guys, lets be real. I can't even get a new contract so it is month to month and I never know when I will lose my home with only 5 days notice becasue they are bound by no laws. 

Let us not forget... no matter where I move TiT as someone so eloqently pointed out. Do you really think the next landlord will be any better whatsoever? Better the devil you know.

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     I'm not sure why you have started this second thread when you already have another thread running on this very same topic.  Perhaps you did not like the answers you got on the other thread and are hoping for an answer more to your liking here.  I doubt that will be the case.

    If I am recalling correctly, most of the advice given to you was:

   1.  Accept the new contract and stay where you are.  Advantages: You already have modifications to the condo for your illness.  The devil you know argument.  No hassles of moving.  Just a small rent increase after 3 years of living there.  And, you said the 500 baht increase was no big deal--although you mentioned it repeatedly on the other thread and now here.  Disadvantages:  Same son of landlord you don't like.  Uncertainities regarding your rental contract--but you could make a condition of staying a new contract with terms better to your liking.  UNit not as nice as others for rent or sale in the building.

2.  Move to another rental unit in the building since you say there are others for rent that are better than where you now are.  Advantages:  Better unit.  New, hopefully better landlord.  Opportunity to have a better rental contract that protects you better.  Disadvantages:  Hassle and expense of moving and installing your equipment for your illness in the new condo.  But, same building so not as much of a hassle or an expense as it could be moving somewhere else. 

3.  Buy the unit you mentioned that is for sale in the building, which you say is also much nicer than your current unit.  Advantages:  Owning would eliminate your problems with being a tenant--both with your current landlord and with future landlords--which from your above post, you feel will also be hard to deal with.  Also frees you from your large resentment in not being covered by the 2018 rental law--also mentioned numerous times in the threads.  No longer a victim of rental discrimination.  You can get your equipment for your illness installed once and for all and not have to worry about moving it from rental condo to rental condo.  Owning puts you in charge, not the landlord, of your living space and what you can do with it--that woud be a big advantage, for me.

      Frankly, I'm not sure what all the shouting's about.  It doesn't seem like a very big issue to me and you have several good choices to choose from, none of them difficult to accomplish, even wth your illness.  I might point out that if you are well enough to travel to NY you can probably accomplish a move to another condo in the building, should you choose to buy or rent a different unit than your present one.

     In your shoes, I would choose option 3, if you can afford to buy.  But, I have the owner mentality.  Others prefer to rent.  I like being my own boss and not answering to a landlord, and being subject to their whims, rules, bad furniture, and so on.  For me, life is too short to be a renter.   Only you can decide which option is best for you--but you do have options and it's really a matter now of you deciding to decide.  Good luck with your decision and your operation.

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