Donald or Kamala?

[Hummin]

Simple poll for AN members: who would you have voted for?

 

 

[KhunLA]

Didn't vote.

 

As stated a few times, for me, if in USA, then Trump.

 

But, since not, and the worse things are there, the better for me, if I voted, it would be for Harris.   Hope she continues Biden's high inflation policies, and a good exchange rate.

 

I'm up 38% since Biden is in office, I think.   Considering exchange rate & COLA since elected.

 

2024 HARRIS 2024

Edited July 24 by KhunLA

[Terrance8812]

42 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Hope she continues Biden's high inflation policies, and a good exchange rate.

Huh? You've got it completely backwards. Inflation is at 2.6% right now. Nearly at the 2% Fed target, down from its peak of over 9% in 2021. The Fed will now cut interest rates in September and then 1-2 more times before the end of the year. As soon as the first two rate cuts hit, then the Baht will be back to 33 to the dollar.
 

If you want high inflation then you would need to vote for Trump. His planned tariff policies on all imported goods will create supply line shortages in America again and force inflation to go back up. This will result in higher interest rates and a stronger dollar again. 

The US economy under Biden is the strongest economy the US has had in the last 50 years. Lowest unemployment since the 70s. Unemployment was really high under Trump. He created the lowest number of jobs of any president in recent history.
 

These are just facts and have nothing to do with a political debate. 
 

 

Edited July 24 by Terrance8812

[brewsterbudgen]

Anyone but Donald.  Anyone.

[TedG]

I’ll vote for Trump for the sole reason of getting better judges in the judicial branch.  

[Hummin]

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

I’ll vote for Trump for the sole reason of getting better judges in the judicial branch.  

 

Judges he can control? 

[TedG]

Just now, Hummin said:

 

Judges he can control? 

Judges rule on the question of law.  Such as the administrative state. 

[Real Name Hidden]

Choice is between a prosecutor and a felon. 

[Jingthing]

55 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Anyone but Donald.  Anyone.

Anyone.

Any thing.

There is nothing worse than that treasonous slimeball. 

[Hanaguma]

59 minutes ago, Terrance8812 said:

Huh? You've got it completely backwards. Inflation is at 2.6% right now. Nearly at the 2% Fed target, down from its peak of over 9% in 2021. The Fed will now cut interest rates in September and then 1-2 more times before the end of the year. As soon as the first two rate cuts hit, then the Baht will be back to 33 to the dollar.
 

If you want high inflation then you would need to vote for Trump. His planned tariff policies on all imported goods will create supply line shortages in America again and force inflation to go back up. This will result in higher interest rates and a stronger dollar again. 

The US economy under Biden is the strongest economy the US has had in the last 50 years. Lowest unemployment since the 70s. Unemployment was really high under Trump. He created the lowest number of jobs of any president in recent history.
 

These are just facts and have nothing to do with a political debate. 
 

 

That is kinda strange. AFAIK, inflation was 1.4% when the Bad Orange Man left the White House, then jumped to over 9% under Biden. But I could be wrong... anyway most Democrats seem to think that campaigning on the wonders of Bidenomics is not a winner for this election.

 

Another problem is that Kamala, well, is not a very skilled politician. Biden was better, even Trump is better. She is not likeable and not warm, that was proven in her disastrous 2020 run at the White House. Her one great skill is that she is very very good at working the room of the insiders and power brokers of the Democratic Party. This is probably a result of her spending so long in the safe cocoon of California Democratic politics. Basically a uniparty state. As time goes by and she is exposed to the general public more and more, her weakness in this area will start to drag her down.

[herfiehandbag]

5 minutes ago, Real Name Hidden said:

Choice is between a prosecutor and a felon. 

Which should make the TV debate most entertaining.

 

Imagine, a Trumpian meltdown live on TV!

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, herfiehandbag said:

Which should make the TV debate most entertaining.

 

Imagine, a Trumpian meltdown live on TV!

He won't do it.

He's not a strong man.

He's a scared wee boy.

[Hummin]

Just now, Hanaguma said:

That is kinda strange. AFAIK, inflation was 1.4% when the Bad Orange Man left the White House, then jumped to over 9% under Biden. But I could be wrong... anyway most Democrats seem to think that campaigning on the wonders of Bidenomics is not a winner for this election.

 

Another problem is that Kamala, well, is not a very skilled politician. Biden was better, even Trump is better. She is not likeable and not warm, that was proven in her disastrous 2020 run at the White House. Her one great skill is that she is very very good at working the room of the insiders and power brokers of the Democratic Party. This is probably a result of her spending so long in the safe cocoon of California Democratic politics. Basically a uniparty state. As time goes by and she is exposed to the general public more and more, her weakness in this area will start to drag her down.

I do not think the world leaders agree with you when it comes to his Political skills. He is more a mafioso who trying to be a Godfather in my opinion. 

[stoner]

Just now, Jingthing said:

He won't do it.

He's not a strong man.

He's a scared wee boy.

 

says the person who uses childish names frequently when referring to trump. 

[Jingthing]

Just now, Hummin said:

I do not think the world leaders agree with you when it comes to his Political skills. He is more a mafioso who trying to be a Godfather in my opinion. 

Yeah democratic allies hate his guts and think he's a clown.

His only fans are dictators.

[Hanaguma]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

I do not think the world leaders agree with you when it comes to his Political skills. He is more a mafioso who trying to be a Godfather in my opinion. 

I meant in comparison to Kamala.  That is the thrust of this discussion.  If you want to think on the foreign policy front, we could have a chat about that too.

[herfiehandbag]

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

He won't do it.

He's not a strong man.

He's a scared wee boy.

I suspect that you are right, various acolytes are already laying the groundwork: "she has been put in by a coup", "it is a fraudulent candidacy", "we won't co-operate as they should first refund us all the money we spent attacking Joe Biden" (!)...

 

That sanctimonious hypocrite Johnson; you know, the one who paraded himself outside the courtroom in New York, as an upright fundamentalist born again  Christian, in support of the whoremonger who used campaign money to pay off his porn star ( the only honest person in the whole farrago) - he has been all over the airwaves!

Edited July 24 by herfiehandbag

[Hummin]

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

I meant in comparison to Kamala.  That is the thrust of this discussion.  If you want to think on the foreign policy front, we could have a chat about that too.

I Think Kamala will do good In Europe, not so sure how she will do in MIddle east and Ukraine war. 

 

Europe is scared <deleted>less when it comes to Donald and how he will deal with Putin. 

[John Drake]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Hope she continues Biden's high inflation policies, and a good exchange rate.

 

I agree. This is my single issue, and it is why I'm voting against Trump. RFKjr is good on the strong dollar too.

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

I meant in comparison to Kamala.  That is the thrust of this discussion.  If you want to think on the foreign policy front, we could have a chat about that too.

Harris is weak on foreign policy.

Not that unusual for a president.

You simply get a very qualified Secretary of State and related positions.

Trump wants to cave to Putin and trash NATO.

He knows a little bit more but his policy bias towards dictators is very bad. 

[John Drake]

Republicans have themselves to blame for this fiasco. They nominated someone who only had a fair to even chance against one person, Biden. Now, Trump is going to be overwhelmed. This man is so hated, he would lose to every other Democrat who is a conceivable nominee. But fine with me. His stated aim to devalue the dollar is enough alone for me to vote for whomever runs against him. 

[Hummin]

7 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

If you want to think on the foreign policy front, we could have a chat about that too.

 

For this forum, I think the foreign policy is important, because it will affect all of us one or the other way who is in office. 

[Terrance8812]

11 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

That is kinda strange. AFAIK, inflation was 1.4% when the Bad Orange Man left the White House, then jumped to over 9% under Biden. But I could be wrong... anyway most Democrats seem to think that campaigning on the wonders of Bidenomics is not a winner for this election.

 

Another problem is that Kamala, well, is not a very skilled politician. Biden was better, even Trump is better. She is not likeable and not warm, that was proven in her disastrous 2020 run at the White House. Her one great skill is that she is very very good at working the room of the insiders and power brokers of the Democratic Party. This is probably a result of her spending so long in the safe cocoon of California Democratic politics. Basically a uniparty state. As time goes by and she is exposed to the general public more and more, her weakness in this area will start to drag her down.

You're talking politics. Although I don't really agree, I'm not really interested in debating the points you made. But my post was purely about economics, inflation and unemployment. Yes inflation was lower under Trump because we were in the middle of Covid and the whole world was locked down. Look at the inflation for the USA versus Europe versus the UK versus and any other major economy, the inflation data during Covid, after Covid, etc., is all the same. It has nothing to do with the political leaders. It's just about central bank policy, interest rates, etc. Just facts. 
 

But going forward, if Trump introduced all those tariffs on imports that he promised, then that would definitely cause a spike in inflation. Whereas Biden's policies on taxation have had no impact on inflation, Trump's would. 

[herfiehandbag]

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Europe is scared <deleted>less when it comes to Donald and how he will deal with Putin. 

Perhaps we are just cynically expecting that he would abandon the USA's allies at the behest of his master Putin?

[bubblegum]

Voting for a good exchange rate really shows your colours. Me, me, me just like the orange one.

 

Talking about Europe, they are not really scared of Trump. More like embarrassed when he moves among them.

 

Nothing to say, no manners, demanding like a child and stinking like a raccoon.

[Dan747]

 I personally believe that I will vote with my wallet ($$) in mind as when I purchase anything in the USA in the last three years everything is much more expensive from groceries, gas, etc. The Democrats need a policy change that will "NEVER HAPPEN!!" Along with the American Citizen supporting all the "ILLEGALS" entering our country. Enough is Enough, I want some commonsense change.

[proton]

One has a good track record as president, the other has done nothing as VP to show any capability at all, what did she do as border tsar, apart from cackle? Sad that people will vote for her just because she is female, has brown skin and is a democrat.

[mogandave]

[Hanaguma]

40 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

For this forum, I think the foreign policy is important, because it will affect all of us one or the other way who is in office. 

That's reasonable, a lot of us furriners are opining on what happens Stateside. But to the American voters, foreign policy generally takes a back seat to domestic concerns- prices, crime, inflation, immigration.  The Dems will probably spend a lot of time crying "abortion! Felon! Racist! Woman hater!" and try to make it stick.

[Hanaguma]

43 minutes ago, Terrance8812 said:

You're talking politics. Although I don't really agree, I'm not really interested in debating the points you made. But my post was purely about economics, inflation and unemployment. Yes inflation was lower under Trump because we were in the middle of Covid and the whole world was locked down. Look at the inflation for the USA versus Europe versus the UK versus and any other major economy, the inflation data during Covid, after Covid, etc., is all the same. It has nothing to do with the political leaders. It's just about central bank policy, interest rates, etc. Just facts. 
 

But going forward, if Trump introduced all those tariffs on imports that he promised, then that would definitely cause a spike in inflation. Whereas Biden's policies on taxation have had no impact on inflation, Trump's would. 

Problem is, Kamala knows nothing about any of those three issues. The best she did was to stand behind Biden when he was signing bills into law and clap like a trained seal. Where she was raised politically, they are non-issues.