NoshowJones Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 I ride a big motorbike with saddlebags on it, I could not park it beside all the smaller Waves and Clicks for obvious reasons, so when I park my bike in the new mall, I need to use a car parking space, am I wrong for doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 (edited) Don't most shopping mall car parks have dedicated 'bike parking' for bigger bikes ? I had an ADV Bike which could not comfortably fit into the 'scooter spaces'... but there was 'big bike' parking, I think for anything over 400cc. So check if they have that... Ultimately, if your trusty steed with saddle-bags can't fit in the 'scooter parking' its not your fault, so go ahead and park in a car space until someone tells you otherwise. Edited March 18 by richard_smith237 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Every Central in Thailand that I've been to had dedicated big bike parking. Ask the parking attendents for the directions, sometimes it's not easy to spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 48 minutes ago, eisfeld said: Every Central in Thailand that I've been to had dedicated big bike parking. Ask the parking attendents for the directions, sometimes it's not easy to spot. I tried that and I am not prepared to put my bike in amongst the small bikes the attendant wanted me to use, the place was filling up with only small bikes so I was not leaving my bike there. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 11 minutes ago, NoshowJones said: I tried that and I am not prepared to put my bike in amongst the small bikes the attendant wanted me to use, the place was filling up with only small bikes so I was not leaving my bike there. It should be a dedicated big bike parking area. You should specifically ask for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 25 minutes ago, eisfeld said: It should be a dedicated big bike parking area. You should specifically ask for that. I did, I was sitting on the bike, he could see it, there were two other motorbike parking lots but there were a lot of small bikes there and many others coming in, I wasn't parking my bike alongside these. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, NoshowJones said: I did, I was sitting on the bike, he could see it, there were two other motorbike parking lots but there were a lot of small bikes there and many others coming in, I wasn't parking my bike alongside these. Then I would ask another guy or just drive around and look for it. They are always marked with signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 1 minute ago, eisfeld said: Then I would ask another guy or just drive around and look for it. They are always marked with signs. I have already done that, and I am not putting my bike alongside all the small ones. I will just use one of the big car parking lots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 35 minutes ago, NoshowJones said: I have already done that, and I am not putting my bike alongside all the small ones. I will just use one of the big car parking lots. I don't blame you... I've had by bike scratched in those tight cr@ppy overcrowded scooter parking places. A lot of people riding cheap motorbikes don't have any consideration or respect for other peoples properly... I've been in situations where I can't take my bike off the stand because another bike has parked so close I can't 'up right my 200kg bike' and I have to 'drag the sh!££y scooter' out just so I can access my bike... Its the same in the UK in supermarkets - people just open their doors and ding your car (it seems to happen less so here). As eisfield mentioned, there is very likely 'big bike' parking - and they don't allow the small scooters in to that area... usually the 'cut off' is engine size (i.e. 400cc etc). What bike is yours ?? type / size ? Anyway... IF there is bike parking and spaces and you take up a car parking space, some parking attendant is going to want to deal with that and stop you - thats the worst that will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 18 minutes ago, NoshowJones said: and I am not putting my bike alongside all the small ones. Yes you mentioned that now four times. But it really shouldn't be so hard to find the big bike parking area. You can try to park in a car parking space. The attendant will likely approach you and tell you that you can't park there. That's probably a good opportunity to ask where to park the big bike then instead. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: and they don't allow the small scooters in to that area. Officially yea but I've seen small bikes in these big bike parking zones in some Centrals where the staff pay no attention. It go too much in one Central one time here and I wasn't able to park my big bike because the spot was full of small ones. I told the parking attendants and they had to manually move a few small bikes to another place. But in many other Centrals I've seen them paying a lot of attention and promptly deny small bikes that try to park there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said: I don't blame you... I've had by bike scratched in those tight cr@ppy overcrowded scooter parking places. A lot of people riding cheap motorbikes don't have any consideration or respect for other peoples properly... I've been in situations where I can't take my bike off the stand because another bike has parked so close I can't 'up right my 200kg bike' and I have to 'drag the sh!££y scooter' out just so I can access my bike... Its the same in the UK in supermarkets - people just open their doors and ding your car (it seems to happen less so here). As eisfield mentioned, there is very likely 'big bike' parking - and they don't allow the small scooters in to that area... usually the 'cut off' is engine size (i.e. 400cc etc). What bike is yours ?? type / size ? Anyway... IF there is bike parking and spaces and you take up a car parking space, some parking attendant is going to want to deal with that and stop you - thats the worst that will happen. Some people won't refer to my bike as a big bike, it is a Honda Forza 300, but it is twice of a Click or Wave, then there is the saddlebags. If any parking attendant try's to stop me then he is going to need to find me a suitable parking place, I am not the kind who just takes orders from anyone, I am entitle to a suitable parking place. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 1 hour ago, eisfeld said: Yes you mentioned that now four times. But it really shouldn't be so hard to find the big bike parking area. You can try to park in a car parking space. The attendant will likely approach you and tell you that you can't park there. That's probably a good opportunity to ask where to park the big bike then instead. I parked in a car parking space the last two times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 9 minutes ago, NoshowJones said: I parked in a car parking space the last two times. So it seems ok for now... you 'got away with it'... But.. a parking attendant will see you at some point and then pull out the serious face and tell you 'no no - cannot' !!!... So, you'll have to go looking for the 'big bike parking'... And as your bike is a larger maxi-scooter, on size alone you should be allowed into the big bike parking area... if they don't like that, I think you are justified in 'pushing it'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 22 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said: So it seems ok for now... you 'got away with it'... But.. a parking attendant will see you at some point and then pull out the serious face and tell you 'no no - cannot' !!!... So, you'll have to go looking for the 'big bike parking'... And as your bike is a larger maxi-scooter, on size alone you should be allowed into the big bike parking area... if they don't like that, I think you are justified in 'pushing it'. There is no big bike parking area, I have ridden round the place looking for it. I am going there again tomorrow, we'll see if anything happens then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 59 minutes ago, NoshowJones said: I am not the kind who just takes orders from anyone, I am entitle to a suitable parking place. You are not entitled to anything on another (juristic) persons private property. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill97 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 17 minutes ago, eisfeld said: You are not entitled to anything on another (juristic) persons private property. Correct. But his big little scooter is impressive, for some I suppose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 18 Author Share Posted March 18 3 hours ago, eisfeld said: You are not entitled to anything on another (juristic) persons private property. Private property?? It is not private during opening hours. If the place can provide parking for it's customers cars and small motorbikes then it can provide parking for bigger bikes and if a cars parking space is available then that will do me fine. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eisfeld Posted March 18 Popular Post Share Posted March 18 (edited) 43 minutes ago, NoshowJones said: Private property?? It is not private during opening hours. If the place can provide parking for it's customers cars and small motorbikes then it can provide parking for bigger bikes and if a cars parking space is available then that will do me fine. Of course it's private property. It's not a government owned park or a road or something. It's a shop owned by a commercial company. It's private no matter the time of day. That they let people access their premises does not make it a public property. If you were to not follow their rules and a staff would tresspass you, you'd have no business remaining on their premises. Because it's private property. Their property, their rules. You have no rights or entitlements to anything there. Edited March 18 by eisfeld 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinRacing Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 21 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Don't most shopping mall car parks have dedicated 'bike parking' for bigger bikes ? I had an ADV Bike which could not comfortably fit into the 'scooter spaces'... but there was 'big bike' parking, I think for anything over 400cc. So check if they have that... Ultimately, if your trusty steed with saddle-bags can't fit in the 'scooter parking' its not your fault, so go ahead and park in a car space until someone tells you otherwise. At my local plaza there are two big bike parking lots, one up to 400cc and another 500cc+. My bike was a cbr500r which is mid 400cc’s. Technically I wasn’t allowed to park in any of them. So I bought a 600cc+ and don’t feel bad parking in there 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sikishrory Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 Sounds kind of entitled to me. The "big bike" area in the mall is their especially so people with your kind of bike can park it there. If you don't like it because other peasants have parked there then go and park somewhere else outside. I ride a similar bike and park it in the mall all the time with no issue whatsoever. The only bike worthy of taking a whole car space in a Thai mall is a Goldwing or something of similar size in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 21 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: I don't blame you... I've had by bike scratched in those tight cr@ppy overcrowded scooter parking places. A lot of people riding cheap motorbikes don't have any consideration or respect for other peoples properly... I've been in situations where I can't take my bike off the stand because another bike has parked so close I can't 'up right my 200kg bike' and I have to 'drag the sh!££y scooter' out just so I can access my bike... Its the same in the UK in supermarkets - people just open their doors and ding your car (it seems to happen less so here). As eisfield mentioned, there is very likely 'big bike' parking - and they don't allow the small scooters in to that area... usually the 'cut off' is engine size (i.e. 400cc etc). What bike is yours ?? type / size ? Anyway... IF there is bike parking and spaces and you take up a car parking space, some parking attendant is going to want to deal with that and stop you - thats the worst that will happen. I went there again today, again the bike parking area's were full of small bikes, so again I parked in a car space. I was then approached by a pretty girl attendant who told me I cannot park there. I told her in a nice way that I am staying parked here unless she can get my a suitable parking place, she went on her radio, had a discussion with someone and then told me it's OK I could park there. So there really is no spaces for bigger bikes there at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, NoshowJones said: I went there again today, again the bike parking area's were full of small bikes, so again I parked in a car space. I was then approached by a pretty girl attendant who told me I cannot park there. I told her in a nice way that I am staying parked here unless she can get my a suitable parking place, she went on her radio, had a discussion with someone and then told me it's OK I could park there. So there really is no spaces for bigger bikes there at all. Which Central are you speaking about exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimothai Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 3/18/2024 at 2:33 PM, eisfeld said: Every Central in Thailand that I've been to had dedicated big bike parking. Ask the parking attendents for the directions, sometimes it's not easy to spot. The motorbike parking at Central Festival in Pattaya has become a nightmare since they allocated space for the big bikes. Simply not enough space for non-big bikes. Smaller bikes are parked on top of one another. My solution is to simply not to go there anymore. I go the extra distance to Terminal 21 where there is plenty of parking. If I absolutely have to go to Central, I'll park across the street and walk over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 8 minutes ago, eisfeld said: Which Central are you speaking about exactly? Central Plaza in Nakhon Sawan. It only opened a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyfez Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 What new mall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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