G_Money Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Yellowtail said: Your memory is terrible. How many times do you have to be told it was entered as legal expenses? Do you still no know the difference? Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal. Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal. Stormy violates the contract. The state claims it was an illegal campaign contribution. Trump is indicted. He only sees what he WANTS to see in all of his posts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Odd that you mention Obama. I tuned into FOX News for both his Presidential Election wins. Unmissable TV. Did you get to keep your doctor? I didn't. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Yellowtail said: Not a crime False Legal False claim Trump did not deduct the payments, or lest them on any tax forms. But yes, he will be convicted, because of people like you. You know what Trump did to get himself indicted, but you choose to try to confuse people about it, because you perceive that's your mission. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Yellowtail said: Your memory is terrible. How many times do you have to be told it was entered as legal expenses? Do you still no know the difference? Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal. Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal. Stormy violates the contract. The state claims it was an illegal campaign contribution. Trump is indicted. Cohen billed Trump the $130,000 paid to Stormy Daniels as a passthrough, but Trump claimed the payment was for legal services, not for Stormy Daniels to shut up. Everyone knows that, but you insist on trying to confuse people. Perhaps you feel better about yourself for doing that, but I think it's whacked. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 hours ago, Yellowtail said: The part where Trump has committed an actual crime, much less a felony. Trump committed business fraud, and faces 34 charges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: You know what Trump did to get himself indicted, but you choose to try to confuse people about it, because you perceive that's your mission. You go with the hyperbole because you know I am right, and because you, as a leftist, do not care about the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 hours ago, KhunLA said: A convicted liar (to Congress) ready to take the stand. Think OJ trial ... should be a short deliberation as well. Some quality testimony, Daniels & her convicted lawyer (if testifying) ... ... they're joking right. Of course, he's a liar! He used to work for Trump! 😀 However, it seems his testimony is corroborating the other testimonies! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 Just now, Yellowtail said: You go with the hyperbole because you know I am right, and because you, as a leftist, do not care about the truth. Trump is indicted because he committed business fraud. You don't understand it, that's all. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, candide said: Of course, he's a liar! He used to work for Trump! 😀 However, it seems his testimony is corroborating the other testimonies! And vice versa, the other witnesses corroborate Michael Cohen's testimony. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Cohen billed Trump the $130,000 paid to Stormy Daniels as a passthrough, but Trump claimed the payment was for legal services, not for Stormy Daniels to shut up. It's your memory again. He called it legal expenses, not legal services, how many times have we gone over this? Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal. Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal. Stormy violates the contract. The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. Trump is indicted. 5 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Everyone knows that, but you insist on trying to confuse people. Perhaps you feel better about yourself for doing that, but I think it's whacked. Indeed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_Money Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 7 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Trump is indicted because he committed business fraud. You don't understand it, that's all. Jury has not made their judgement yet. Don’t get ahead of yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: It's your memory again. He called it legal expenses, not legal services, how many times have we gone over this? Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal. Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal. Stormy violates the contract. The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. Trump is indicted. Indeed Trump arranged for Michael Cohen to provide fake invoices, and paid them as if they were for attorney services, when, in fact, the payment was for the Stormy Daniels hush money. Business fraud. To cover up the initial illicit campaign donation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorquayFan Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 Yellow - have a look at this https://youtu.be/jKGHBriP6RE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scottiejohn Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 39 minutes ago, G_Money said: Still upset you didn’t make my shortlist for Danderman to refer to for clarification? Don't hate. It doesn’t fit in with the core values of liberalism. You just weren’t qualified! I don’t do DEI, EEO or any of that other WOKE BS. More gibberish! 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: It's your memory again. He called it legal expenses, not legal services, how many times have we gone over this? Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal. Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal. Stormy violates the contract. The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. Trump is indicted. Indeed FEC clearly stated that they declined to prosecute the illegal campaign donation because they knew that DOJ was already working the case. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 16 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: Trump arranged for Michael Cohen to provide fake invoices, and paid them as if they were for attorney services, when, in fact, the payment was for the Stormy Daniels hush money. Business fraud. To cover up the initial illicit campaign donation. How was it a complain donation it Trump paid Cohen back? t's your memory again. He called it legal expenses, not legal services, how many times have we gone over this? Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal. Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal. Stormy violates the contract. The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. Trump is indicted. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 15 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: FEC clearly stated that they declined to prosecute the illegal campaign donation because they knew that DOJ was already working the case. Bidens DOJ was working on a state case, we agree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 18 minutes ago, TorquayFan said: Yellow - have a look at this https://youtu.be/jKGHBriP6RE What does it say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: How was it a complain donation it Trump paid Cohen back? t's your memory again. He called it legal expenses, not legal services, how many times have we gone over this? Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal. Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal. Stormy violates the contract. The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. Trump is indicted. You're doing the crazy breakdown of a crime into it's discrete parts. Let me help you: Cohen paid Stormy Daniels to assist the Trump campaign, which was an illegal campaign donation. Trump reimbursed Cohen, but claimed the payment was for attorney services, not for the hush money payment. The initial campaign finance violation was covered up by Trump not listing the expense as being for hush money, which was fraud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Danderman123 Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said: Bidens DOJ was working on a state case, we agree. Trump's DOJ prosecuted Cohen for his campaign finance violation and he went to jail. FEC declined to prosecute Cohen because he already pled guilty. Do you think Trump's DOJ was lying about the payment being a campaign finance violation? Edited May 14 by Danderman123 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellowtail Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 18 minutes ago, Danderman123 said: You're doing the crazy breakdown of a crime into it's discrete parts. Let me help you: Cohen paid Stormy Daniels to assist the Trump campaign, which was an illegal campaign donation. Trump reimbursed Cohen, but claimed the payment was for attorney services, not for the hush money payment. The initial campaign finance violation was covered up by Trump not listing the expense as being for hush money, which was fraud. t's your memory again. He called it legal expenses, not legal services, how many times have we gone over this? Trump’s lawyer pays Stormy’s lawyer to influence one party to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. Stormy’s lawyer pays Stormy to enter into an NDA with another party, which is legal. An NDA is payment in consideration of a contract, which is legal. Trump pays his lawyer and calls it legal expenses, which is legal. Stormy violates the contract. The FEC looked at it and did not prosecute. Bragg looked at it and did not prosecute. The Biden DOJ sends one of their top guys to New York to make up a campaign finance violation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danderman123 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, Yellowtail said: You mean the way you keep lying and saying Trump recorded the payments as attorney services? What did he say? Trump recorded the transactions as "legal services", which is how invoices from attorneys are normally paid. The problem is that the payment to Michael Cohen wasn't for legal services, it was compensation for an illegal campaign finance violation. As for Trump, for the first time, he admitted he knew about the NDA. Oops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 hours ago, eisfeld said: Don't bother, Yagoda is a troll. Asking for someone to lay out a case against Trump on a topic about a case being run against Trump... There is not one person here who is capable of setting forth facts to support each and every element of the case against trump. In other words, facts that were adduced at trial. I'll make it easy for the Trump deranged to understand, since they are in their own fantasy world. But here it is, Read It and Weep: The reason that no one here can set forth facts to support each and every element of the crime charged against Trump it's because they do not exist, nor does the crime, and again, not one person here can do it. Sure, the truly trump deranged set forth all the conclusory allegations, but no facts. Here's another one, not one person here can provide me with the crime that Trump allegedly committed that raises these bookkeeping misdemeanors to a felony. Not one. And not one of you can provide the statute that underlies that crime. You know why, because fat Alvin can't either. But hey, who's the troll. The one who points out the flaws in the argument, or the ones who keep making the same stupid arguments over and over again. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 5 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Odd that you mention Obama. I tuned into FOX News for both his Presidential Election wins. Unmissable TV. The only time you ever watched TV and got facts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 22 minutes ago, Yagoda said: There is not one person here who is capable of setting forth facts to support each and every element of the case against trump. In other words, facts that were adduced at trial. I'll make it easy for the Trump deranged to understand, since they are in their own fantasy world. But here it is, Read It and Weep: The reason that no one here can set forth facts to support each and every element of the crime charged against Trump it's because they do not exist, nor does the crime, and again, not one person here can do it. Sure, the truly trump deranged set forth all the conclusory allegations, but no facts. Here's another one, not one person here can provide me with the crime that Trump allegedly committed that raises these bookkeeping misdemeanors to a felony. Not one. And not one of you can provide the statute that underlies that crime. You know why, because fat Alvin can't either. But hey, who's the troll. The one who points out the flaws in the argument, or the ones who keep making the same stupid arguments over and over again. Borrowing Yellowtail's trolling tactics now? 😃 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eisfeld Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Yagoda said: There is not one person here who is capable of setting forth facts to support each and every element of the case against trump. In other words, facts that were adduced at trial. I'll make it easy for the Trump deranged to understand, since they are in their own fantasy world. But here it is, Read It and Weep: The reason that no one here can set forth facts to support each and every element of the crime charged against Trump it's because they do not exist, nor does the crime, and again, not one person here can do it. Sure, the truly trump deranged set forth all the conclusory allegations, but no facts. Here's another one, not one person here can provide me with the crime that Trump allegedly committed that raises these bookkeeping misdemeanors to a felony. Not one. And not one of you can provide the statute that underlies that crime. You know why, because fat Alvin can't either. But hey, who's the troll. The one who points out the flaws in the argument, or the ones who keep making the same stupid arguments over and over again. The one who asks people on a forum to lay out each and every fact of the trial. The one who asks for statutes. The one who hasn't bothered to read the indictment or charges but asks others to present them. The one using "Trump deranged". And the one who calls people names. You. 2 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 53 minutes ago, candide said: Borrowing Yellowtail's trolling tactics now? 😃 You mean pointing out uncomfortable truths. That's called trolling or misinformation by the Trump crowd. And I bet you couldn't provide us with any facts either. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagoda Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 1 minute ago, eisfeld said: The one who asks people on a forum to lay out each and every fact of the trial. The one who asks for statutes. The one who hasn't bothered to read the indictment or charges but asks others to present them. The one using "Trump deranged". And the one who calls people names. You. I'm not the one claiming he is guilty. In america, in case you did not know, it's the burden of the government to prove guilt behind a reasonable doubt. But if you ask the screeching mob trumpophobics, they can't give you any facts all. Not one. They can't even tell you what the crime is. I bet you haven't read the indictment. Just another guy without facts, only insults. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted May 14 Popular Post Share Posted May 14 1 hour ago, Yagoda said: You mean pointing out uncomfortable truths. That's called trolling or misinformation by the Trump crowd. And I bet you couldn't provide us with any facts either. Come on! You could at least troll in an original way! 😁 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipalongcassidy Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 11 hours ago, Danderman123 said: Is there any part of the prosecution's case with which you disagree? Davis urged Cohen to "own his lying" and his "sins" while answering questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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