Oklahoma Schools Resist State Mandate to Incorporate Bibles into Classrooms

[Chomper Higgot]

29 minutes ago, proton said:

 

Hope not hate 

Full points for humor 

[Roo Island]

Keep religion out of schools...and government

[Roo Island]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, teachers should ignore any rules they don't like and teach the students to do the same.

Ridiculous

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

So, the left wants to ban books in schools? 

Ouch. Hoisted on their own petard, again.

[Dionigi]

On 8/26/2024 at 1:01 PM, candide said:

Actually, there are two gods who have been merged in the old testament.

Psalms 82:1

God presides in the great assembly;
    he renders judgment among the “gods”:

 

So ther must be more than one

[BusyB]

18 hours ago, Yagoda said:

You have never read it.

 

I have read, and seen, and heard enough of it to know that it is a constitutional blasphemy. A declaration of its creators vengeance fantasies against everything the US supposedly stands for. Essentially a verbally camouflaged mysogynist, white supremacist document of unfreedom and dictatorship aimed at subjugating anyone 'different' who doesn't fit the ideal of a christian extremist perfect person. A US Taliban document.

 

You have been warned.

 

And to its supporters I say as someone who has a close knowledge of history in this respect: What most people don't understand is that when these types have subjugated and packed off to jail and ruined all their initial prey, they need more. That's when they turn on the fools who put them in power in the first place. An inevitable process because they need the 'other', they need enemies just in order to carry on. And by the laws of averages you can rest assured that all those who thought they'd be stood in the watchtowers as camp guards (figuratively speaking or not) are far more likely to be the inmates. And most won't be able to defend themselves against it cos they ain't got the spines or the intelligence.

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17 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Except when Daddys ideology is hers. But you arent a Yank so your opinion matters not.

Because "the child is the father to the man?" Thanks for showing us that not only is the issue of citizenship a non-starter, so is your sloppy thinking. 

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On 8/26/2024 at 6:47 PM, Yagoda said:

There is a correlation between virulent atheism and paganism to antisemitism. Im an agnostic myself but always enjoyed reading the Bible, except for Numbers, too boring.

 

Love the Babylonian Harlot with the filthy cup of her fornications. Like an ancient 666 Bukkake movie.

Thank goodness there is no historical correlation at all between Christianity and anti-semitism. Europe under 'Christianity was for most of its history an epoch of goodwill and respect from Christians towards the Jews. In oppositeworld.

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On 8/27/2024 at 12:10 AM, BusyB said:

 

His VP pick wrote the goddam foreword for that constitutional blasphemy and Trump himself is a close associate of the perps.

 

You have all been clearly and loudly warned.

Here's something else that Vance said:

 

 "Mr. Vance said that if he could give Mr. Trump one piece of advice, it would be this: “Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state. Replace them with our people. And when the courts—’cause you will get taken to court—and when the courts stop you, stand before the country, like Andrew Jackson did, and say, ‘The chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.’ ”

https://archive.ph/BUSpM

 

That's how much Vance respects The Constitution. 

[Yellowtail]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

Here's something else that Vance said:

 

 "Mr. Vance said that if he could give Mr. Trump one piece of advice, it would be this: “Fire every single midlevel bureaucrat, every civil servant in the administrative state. Replace them with our people. And when the courts—’cause you will get taken to court—and when the courts stop you, stand before the country, like Andrew Jackson did, and say, ‘The chief justice has made his ruling. Now let him enforce it.’ ”

https://archive.ph/BUSpM

 

That's how much Vance respects The Constitution. 

Is that not what Obama and Biden did? 

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19 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Is that not what Obama and Biden did? 

No.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

No.

Yes, thet both fired everyone and replaced them. 

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, thet both fired everyone and replaced them. 

False. They they did not fire civil servants and replace them. Only political employees which happens with every administration. 

[placeholder]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yes, thet both fired everyone and replaced them. 

And l you're missing the point. Vance endorsed refusing to obey a court order and defying the Constitution.

[Yellowtail]

15 minutes ago, placeholder said:

And l you're missing the point. Vance endorsed refusing to obey a court order and defying the Constitution.

You mean like Biden ignoring a court order and pandering for votes with student loan forgiveness? 

 

If you have civil servants refusing to do their jobs, they should be fired.  

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7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You mean like Biden ignoring a court order and pandering for votes with student loan forgiveness? 

 

If you have civil servants refusing to do their jobs, they should be fired.  

False. Please provide evidence that Biden ignored a court order.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

False. Please provide evidence that Biden ignored a court order.

Did the court decide it was unconstitutional to forgive student loans, and did he not continue to forgive student loans? 

 

You can say he changed the delivery method, but it's still an end run around the court. 

 

One could argue a real man would stand up and defy the court and not slink around it. 

 

Again, if you have civil servants refusing to do their jobs, they should be fired.

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30 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Did the court decide it was unconstitutional to forgive student loans, and did he not continue to forgive student loans? 

 

You can say he changed the delivery method, but it's still an end run around the court. 

 

You'll have to provide better evidence than your characterizations. Links?

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31 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

One could argue a real man would stand up and defy the court and not slink around it. 

One could argue that someone who invokes what a real would do when it comes to legal issue is someone not to be taken seriously.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

You'll have to provide better evidence than your characterizations. Links?

Are you saying that the court did not rule against Biden forgiving student loans?

 

And if you are saying that, and If I show that the court did rule against Biden forgiving student loans, are you going to apologize?  

 

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

One could argue that someone who invokes what a real would do when it comes to legal issue is someone not to be taken seriously.

Then why not make that argument? 

 

So John Lewis was not someone to be taking seriously, got it. 

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30 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Are you saying that the court did not rule against Biden forgiving student loans?

 

And if you are saying that, and If I show that the court did rule against Biden forgiving student loans, are you going to apologize?  

 

No. I am certainly denying your earlier claim at the courts somehow invoked the Constitution to decide against biden's plan.

You need to keep track of what you claim.

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, placeholder said:

No. I am certainly denying your earlier claim at the courts somehow invoked the Constitution to decide against biden's plan.

You need to keep track of what you claim.

I thought not. 

 

So it is your position the Supreme Court is indifferent to the Constitution in its rulings, got it. 

 

Supreme Court strikes down Biden student-loan forgiveness program - SCOTUSblog

[Yagoda]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

Thank goodness there is no historical correlation at all between Christianity and anti-semitism. Europe under 'Christianity was for most of its history an epoch of goodwill and respect from Christians towards the Jews. In oppositeworld.

Wow, where did you learn something as stupid as that? The Christians, depending on politics, were murderous. But they have since learned that hanging the dead Jewsih dude in their churches make them a target too, so its the mutual fight now.

[Yagoda]

5 hours ago, placeholder said:

Because "the child is the father to the man?" Thanks for showing us that not only is the issue of citizenship a non-starter, so is your sloppy thinking. 

We are all our Daddys sport. Thanks for showing us how your reflexive Trump hating destroys critical thinking.

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, placeholder said:

False. Please provide evidence that Biden ignored a court order.

False. Please provide evidence to prove he didnt.

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

False. Please provide evidence to prove he didnt.

He did not ignore it, he tried sneaking around it, like a good leftist. 

[Yagoda]

6 hours ago, BusyB said:

supremecist

I have read, and seen, and heard enough of it to know that it is a constitutional blasphemy. A declaration of its creators vengeance fantasies against everything the US supposedly stands for. Essentially a verbally camouflaged mysogynist, white supremacist document of unfreedom and dictatorship aimed at subjugating anyone 'different' who doesn't fit the ideal of a christian extremist perfect person. A US Taliban document.

 

You have been warned.

 

And to its supporters I say as someone who has a close knowledge of history in this respect: What most people don't understand is that when these types have subjugated and packed off to jail and ruined all their initial prey, they need more. That's when they turn on the fools who put them in power in the first place. An inevitable process because they need the 'other', they need enemies just in order to carry on. And by the laws of averages you can rest assured that all those who thought they'd be stood in the watchtowers as camp guards (figuratively speaking or not) are far more likely to be the inmates. And most won't be able to defend themselves against it cos they ain't got the spines or the intelligence.

Give us one quote that is a "constitutional fantasy"

Give us any misogynist language

Give us illustrations of "white supremacy".

 

Using the language they used.

 

You cant. Because it would expose the unmitigated lying garbage you posted.

 

Put up or shut up.

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

I thought not. 

 

So it is your position the Supreme Court is indifferent to the Constitution in its rulings, got it. 

 

Supreme Court strikes down Biden student-loan forgiveness program - SCOTUSblog

This bogus  tactic of yours, which you repeatedly employ, namely misrepresenting the positions others by introducing things they never said , is just more evidence of what little you have to offer The issue isn't whether the Court is indifferent to Constitutional issues. Rather the issue was your claim that the court invoked some kind of Constitutional grounds to disqualify Biden's student loan forgiveness program. It didn't. 

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36 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Wow, where did you learn something as stupid as that? The Christians, depending on politics, were murderous. But they have since learned that hanging the dead Jewsih dude in their churches make them a target too, so its the mutual fight now.

What is stupid is claiming that" There is a correlation between virulent atheism and paganism to antisemitism."