Residence certificate with Tourist Visa?

[berro]

Can I get a residence certificate on a Tourist Visa?

[Tod Daniels]

You don't say where you are in thailand 😕 

In Bangkok they recently changed the certificate of residence process

BEFORE you had to be on a visa/extension where you did 90 day reporting AND had a 90 day report slip with you because they used that address to mail the COR to you

NOW you can get a COR on a free entry stamp / tourist visa etc as long as you have a TM30 <- they will send the COR to the address you're registered as staying at

The way it works in bangkok is
-Certificates of Residence are issued in section B.
-You fill out the document, copy of the data page of your passport, your entry stamp/extension, your TM30.
-You pay 200baht (get a receipt) and get a paper with the Thai Post EMS tracking number on it.
-They'll mail the COR to you in about 5 days 

This is what the form looks like
 

[DrJack54]

7 minutes ago, Tod Daniels said:

In Bangkok they recently changed the certificate of residence process

Was not aware of the change.

When did that occur. 

 

[johng]

No option for opening a bank account.

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, johng said:

No option for opening a bank account.

With a COR one should be able to open bank account 

[johng]

Yes but on the form above I don't see that option...maybe like the Pattaya COR  they don't actually specify what the certificate is for   on the actual certificate just confirms the address...kinda makes me wonder why they ask in the dirst place ?

[Upnotover]

3 minutes ago, johng said:

Yes but on the form above I don't see that option...maybe like the Pattaya COR  they don't actually specify what the certificate is for   on the actual certificate just confirms the address...kinda makes me wonder why they ask in the dirst place ?

I got one recently (Bangkok), and the reason is clearly stated.  Having said that I got a new bank account earlier in the year and the bank didn't ask for a COR, just a copy of my apartment lease.

[DrJack54]

8 minutes ago, johng said:

Yes but on the form above I don't see that option..

The actual COR that you receive does not state what it's for. eg TDL.

Just tick eg TDL on the application and present COR to bank to assist with opening bank account. 

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

Having said that I got a new bank account earlier in the year and the bank didn't ask for a COR, just a copy of my apartment lease.

The OP is on tourist visa.

Assume you have extensions from a visa? 

[Upnotover]

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

The OP is on tourist visa.

Assume you have extensions from a visa? 

Indeed.  But my reply was not to the OP but to the poster asking about bank accounts.

[Dan O]

Not all provinces will issue a COR on a tourist visa. As an example NST requires a 90 day report first. All banks will not issue an account on a tourist visa with just a COR. Many require a long stay visa stamp so be sure to check first as there is no single rule that provincial Imm follow.

[Upnotover]

On 9/21/2024 at 7:47 AM, Tod Daniels said:

You don't say where you are in thailand 😕 

In Bangkok they recently changed the certificate of residence process

BEFORE you had to be on a visa/extension where you did 90 day reporting AND had a 90 day report slip with you because they used that address to mail the COR to you

NOW you can get a COR on a free entry stamp / tourist visa etc as long as you have a TM30 <- they will send the COR to the address you're registered as staying at

The way it works in bangkok is
-Certificates of Residence are issued in section B.
-You fill out the document, copy of the data page of your passport, your entry stamp/extension, your TM30.
-You pay 200baht (get a receipt) and get a paper with the Thai Post EMS tracking number on it.
-They'll mail the COR to you in about 5 days 

This is what the form looks like
 

Is this 100%?  I recently got one via an "agent" cause I have never done a 90 day report (on retirement extension).  Now I need another and want to be sure a TM30 is going to be enough before heading to CW.

[johng]

39 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

Is this 100%?  I recently got one via an "agent" cause I have never done a 90 day report (on retirement extension).  Now I need another and want to be sure a TM30 is going to be enough before heading to CW.

Not BKK but Jomtien they were not interested in my 90 day report at all  just the TM 30   of course your mileage may vary.

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, johng said:

Not BKK but Jomtien they were not interested in my 90 day report at all  just the TM 30   of course your mileage may vary.

CW is only immigration office that I'm aware of that has required TM47 receipt to obtain a certificate of residence 

[Upnotover]

32 minutes ago, johng said:

Not BKK but Jomtien they were not interested in my 90 day report at all  just the TM 30   of course your mileage may vary.

Exactly.  It's been reported many times than CW want TM47, but the recent report fro @Tod Daniels suggest that there has been a change  Just trying to get confirmation before going there.

[johng]

1 minute ago, Upnotover said:

It's been reported many times than CW want TM47, but the recent report fro @Tod Daniels suggest that there has been a change

 

I wish they could just make up their  minds 😋   every province seems to have their own set of requirements that change with the phase of the moon

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, Upnotover said:

Exactly.  It's been reported many times than CW want TM47, but the recent report fro @Tod Daniels suggest that there has been a change  Just trying to get confirmation before going there.

Tod will reply at some point. Think he had reports on Facebook group.

I needed a COR at CW earlier this year. IO only wanted one thing. TM47 receipt. 

So it's certainly a recent change. 

[bigt3116]

8 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Tod will reply at some point. Think he had reports on Facebook group.

I needed a COR at CW earlier this year. IO only wanted one thing. TM47 receipt. 

So it's certainly a recent change. 

 

Yes it is a recent change, posted a day ago.

 

"Tod Daniels

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IF you're talking about Bangkok immigrations they no longer require you to be on a visa/extension where you do 90 day reporting to get a certificate of residence,

You DO need a TM30 <notification of foreigner in residence, to have been filed on you by your land lord or yourself as far as where you live because they mail the certificate of residence to that address.

In Bangkok you go to the main immigration office at the government complex Building B out at Chaengwattana Road, you want section B (they do TM30 and Certificate of Residence)

You fill out the form, make the copies they require, pay 200 baht, they give you a receipt and a Thai Post EMS tracking number and the certificate of residence is mailed to you in about 5 days

This is an example of the form you fill out for a certificate of residence"

 

 

[bigt3116]

@DrJack54

 

No need to wait for Tod to reply, I have posted his previous post.

 

🙂

[DrJack54]

12 minutes ago, bigt3116 said:

No need to wait for Tod to reply, I have posted his previous post.

I'm aware of Tod previous post in this thread and elsewhere.

I'm hoping to read a first hand report of no requirement of TM47 at CW to obtain a COR. 

[DodgerRodger]

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

I'm aware of Tod previous post in this thread and elsewhere.

I'm hoping to read a first hand report of no requirement of TM47 at CW to obtain a COR. 

I've read about this on Tod's FB Visa group as well as on another similar FB group although without any first-hand confirmation that I can see.  But that's sufficient for me to venture out there next week without a 90-day report to request a CoR.  I'll post an update then.  Fingers crossed....

[DrJack54]

1 minute ago, DodgerRodger said:

I'll post an update then.  Fingers crossed....

Good luck..

The forum will appreciate your update.

So would seem you are on tourist visa or exempt.

COR necessary for eg bank a/c, TDL etc.

Hopefully you get the COR.

Should receive it in approx 5 business days (even though they state state up to 14) 

Cost 200b 

Since you do not have TM47 receipt having a TM30 would be good idea. 

[DodgerRodger]

2 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Good luck..

The forum will appreciate your update.

So would seem you are on tourist visa or exempt.

COR necessary for eg bank a/c, TDL etc.

Hopefully you get the COR.

Should receive it in approx 5 business days (even though they state state up to 14) 

Cost 200b 

Since you do not have TM47 receipt having a TM30 would be good idea. 

I am Thai Elite  but don't stay in Thailand longer than 90 days.  I would like to renew my TDL which I previously obtained using UK Embassy letter of residence affirmation, but sadly not available now.  The UK Embassy stopped because they claimed the service is available at Thai Immigration.  Perhaps they have lobbied for the removal of the 90-day requirement in BKK (wishful thinking?). TM30 in hand.

[bigt3116]

On 9/25/2024 at 4:16 AM, bigt3116 said:

You DO need a TM30 <notification of foreigner in residence, to have been filed on you by your land lord or yourself as far as where you live because they mail the certificate of residence to that address.

 

8 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

having a TM30 would be good idea. 

 

Not a "good idea", it was clearly stated that you "DO need a TM30".

[DrJack54]

2 hours ago, bigt3116 said:

 

 

Not a "good idea", it was clearly stated that you "DO need a TM30".

I obtained my first COR in Bangkok with a lease only.

No TM30 (in fact I have never done one) and no TM47.

I stated he should provide a TM30 

 

[DrJack54]

8 hours ago, DodgerRodger said:

I am Thai Elite  but don't stay in Thailand longer than 90 days.  I would like to renew my TDL which I previously obtained using UK Embassy letter of residence affirmation, but sadly not available now

I had similar issue.

First 7 years I was never in Thailand for longer than 90 days due to frequent travel.

Could not obtain TM47 and could not obtain TDL.

Was not until covid that was able to do 90 report and obtain COR.

Being Oz my embassy also does not provide embassy letter along with UK and USA.

Hopefully CW has done away with this nonsense 

.

[bigt3116]

16 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

I obtained my first COR in Bangkok with a lease only.

No TM30 (in fact I have never done one) and no TM47.

I stated he should provide a TM30 

 

 

What you did years ago has no basis on what is required, or not, right now, in the present. Yes you stated he "should" have a TM30, when Tod clearly states he "must", there is a huge difference.

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, bigt3116 said:

 

What you did years ago has no basis on what is required, or not, right now, in the present. Yes you stated he "should" have a TM30, when Tod clearly states he "must", there is a huge difference.

So tired of nonsense.

My COR without TM30 or TM47 was at CW in 2022. 

And yes he should have a TM30. 

[Caldera]

Requiring a TM30 receipt instead of TM47 sounds like the sensible thing to do, and in line with what many other IOs have been doing. Hopefully that will stick.

[DrJack54]

4 minutes ago, Caldera said:

Requiring a TM30 receipt instead of TM47 sounds like the sensible thing to do, and in line with what many other IOs have been doing

As far as I'm aware CW was the only office that required a TM47.

Hopefully the TM30 will be sufficient in future.