Frozen in time: British expats losing out on pensions in Thailand

[Bday Prang]

To think Great Britain once virtually ruled the world with its empire, and now it is reduced to skimming money off the elderly, Whilst its socialist leaders shamelessly trouser hundreds of thousands of pounds in freebies

Where did it all go wrong?

[jori123]

1 minute ago, bradiston said:

I'd like to see the original letter. This appears to be a mock-up.

is   the author confessed it was years ago, lets see him come bach again

 

 

Q

 has anyone been prosected/sanctioned for reviving OAP unfrozen pension in TH
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As of my last knowledge update, the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) in the UK has not prosecuted nor sanctioned individuals for receiving an unfrozen Old Age Pension (OAP). However, there have been instances where the DWP identified underpayments and took corrective action.

 

 DWP will not answer, but next best the A1   artificial intelligence  ,  go on ask      no punishment nothing, shift your address to UK

[lor]

Easy, Just live in the Philippines for 6 months 1 day of the year and Thailand for the other 6 months and not only will he get the cost of living increase to his pension but he will also not have to pay Thai Income Tax!

[proton]

7 minutes ago, bradiston said:

I'd like to see the original letter. This appears to be a mock-up.

I have already posted it, just for you again

[jori123]

3 hours ago, chiang mai said:

You hope!

Is,no hoping

[jori123]

2 minutes ago, proton said:

I have already posted it, just for you again

..and I've answered, it was a hoax,  if you go to past threads on the subject the recipient (he did quote earlier) admitted he volunteered information to DWP for them to take action(wanted that letter).  You will see comments like "bingo" and "wow" from him, but you will have trawl through past quotes

[baansgr]

1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

You need to keep a UK address (could easily be a relatives) and a bank account for that address,  where your pension can be paid into.  However if it is found that you are not living in the UK then you may well be in trouble.

 

The British pension is pretty pathetic compared to other European countries anyway.  Hard to enjoy life if that is all you have to live on, even in Thailand. 

Have you looked at other countries in euro, how many years they have to pay and how much you get...it's a myth UK pension is the worst

[hotandsticky]

Just now, baansgr said:

Have you looked at other countries in euro, how many years they have to pay and how much you get...it's a myth UK pension is the worst

 

 

Your assertion.....can you provide a link to support the claim that it is a myth?

[Gknrd]

Yes, best to play by the rules when you get old, and need more income and support. No need to play Russian roulette with your pension if from the UK, or other countries that do this.  I am an expat nomad kinda of. I spend 6 months a year minimum out. Personally all of these countries like Thailand start to get on my nerves after a few months. Great at first and I love to explore, but then after the new wears off it is not all that. And, I am ready to go home for some peace and quiet.  My country does not cut my pension if living abroad, but I would never in a million years call Thailand a retirement heaven. I learned a long time ago to play by the rules.

Edited 3 hours ago by Gknrd

[jori123]

6 hours ago, Blueman1 said:

And End up in the " Nick " for Fraud & Deception when they catch you,And They WILL.....

Are you sure? ,now I think not ,not in a million years ,talking State Pension of course

[theblether]

42 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

To think Great Britain once virtually ruled the world with its empire, and now it is reduced to skimming money off the elderly, Whilst its socialist leaders shamelessly trouser hundreds of thousands of pounds in freebies

Where did it all go wrong?

 

Aye, very good. 27% of British pensioners are millionaires. At least the same again are worth £500K plus.  And this forum is full of people moaning they didn't get an extra tenner a week increase this year.  Ya'll had fifty years to invest in property and private pensions and managed to contrive a situation you entered your later years skint. 

 

Just be quiet, 

 

Just give it a rest. 

[proton]

45 minutes ago, jori123 said:

..and I've answered, it was a hoax,  if you go to past threads on the subject the recipient (he did quote earlier) admitted he volunteered information to DWP for them to take action(wanted that letter).  You will see comments like "bingo" and "wow" from him, but you will have trawl through past quotes

 

The letter is not a hoax, it does not matter who told them. They took action against him with a fixed penalty and a bill to re pay the over payments. Many on this thread have said that they cannot do this.

[jori123]

22 minutes ago, proton said:

 

The letter is not a hoax, it does not matter who told them. They took action against him with a fixed penalty and a bill to re pay the over payments. Many on this thread have said that they cannot do this.

Not quite.  You will have to go back a few years ,past threads on the subject.  Jealousy took a big hand in this, two of them put this into being.  Is admitted they informed DWP an overpayment some 5 years before had been made ,and to be honest they wanted to return it, not by posting a cheque but a official letter spelling out the consequence of their admitted claim..    Its all there ,  bizarre to the extreme

 

#DWP could not do this(head of DWP) was involved, but then you could put through any letter through Editor and get the result you want

 

 

Instead of banging on about the subject matter ask DWP (no answer) or next best A1 will answer DWP   Q.  am I committing a crime receiving an unfrozen pension in TH,and if there any punishment?.........none

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[bkk_mike]

16 hours ago, Nemises said:

They knew their pensions would freeze if they left the UK.

Next.

It's not for leaving the UK.

There are places you can retire to where your UK pension isn't frozen. - Spain (in fact pretty much anywhere in Europe), the US, Jamaica, the Philippines, etc.

 

The Philippines makes a lot of sense for Brits as an alternative to Thailand. You can pay to join their national universal healthcare scheme (which you can't do in Thailand), and your pension doesn't get frozen.

Maybe you get a few more Typhoons and the food isn't as good, and how useful the universal healthcare is maybe an issue if you've retire to a place that's a long way from a state hospital, but if you're at a point where you are dependent on your state pension going up with inflation, it's probably the better bet than Thailand.

[bkk_mike]

16 hours ago, Middle Aged Grouch said:

Britain seems to need and scrape all the money it can as the UK is giving billions of dollars to Ukraine, to the American led coalition wars in the Middle East and so on. Like many western nations, England prefers to spend money all over but not for it's own.

The cost of Brexit to the UK is £2 billion a WEEK.

That's why the UK doesn't have any money any more...

[Stargeezr]

Every one has the freedom to go back to their home country. The UKers can do that as well.

When they are back in the UK they can go and make sure their pensions will not be

frozen, or just live with that fact. IMO.

[gk10012001]

16 minutes ago, bkk_mike said:

It's not for leaving the UK.

There are places you can retire to where your UK pension isn't frozen. - Spain (in fact pretty much anywhere in Europe), the US, Jamaica, the Philippines, etc.

 

The Philippines makes a lot of sense for Brits as an alternative to Thailand. You can pay to join their national universal healthcare scheme (which you can't do in Thailand), and your pension doesn't get frozen.

Maybe you get a few more Typhoons and the food isn't as good, and how useful the universal healthcare is maybe an issue if you've retire to a place that's a long way from a state hospital, but if you're at a point where you are dependent on your state pension going up with inflation, it's probably the better bet than Thailand.

Interesting options, especially the Philippines.  Wonder how long one must stay in the PI if one say were to visit Thailand for much of the year while maintaining some sort of residence or whatever the UK would require to be considered in the PI