9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Perhaps with coordinated riots across the country the PM was being briefed on the online hate mongering that was there for all to see.

Far Right thug is open to interpretation. the main backlash against Starmer has come from normal people resenting his labeling of any opposition to his worldview as "Far Right". Opposition to mass immigration and fake asylum seeking is only "Far Right" and "hate" in the minds of the Far Left. It is a deliberate tactic to demonise any dissenting voices.

 

For the record I am very disturbed by the assembly/attempted arson outside building housing "asylum seekers" as there might have been genuine asylum seekers there, not just country upgraders.

Edited October 31, 20241 yr by mokwit

Just now, mokwit said:

Far Right thug is open to interpretation. the main backlash against Starmer has come from normal people resenting his labeling of any opposition to his worldview as "Far Right". Opposition to mass immigration and fake asylum seeking is only "Far Right" and "hate" in the minds of the Far Left.

 

For the record I am very disturbed by the assembly/attempted arson outside building housing "asylum seekers" as there might have been genuine asylum seekers there, not just country upgraders.

The wider public seem to have a different view:

 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-riots-anti-racism-walthamstow-london-b2593146.html

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The wider public seem to have a different view:

 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-riots-anti-racism-walthamstow-london-b2593146.html

*The day Britain fought back: public praised for anti-racism gatherings that shut down far-right riots*

 

 

 

"Around 25,000 people took to the streets of Britain on Wednesday night to defy the far-right and send a message that communities would not be divided by hate."

 

   What percentage of the UKs population is 25 000 ?

The headline says Britain fought back , should 25 000 people be classified as speaking on behalf of 70 Million people 

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

*The day Britain fought back: public praised for anti-racism gatherings that shut down far-right riots*

 

 

 

"Around 25,000 people took to the streets of Britain on Wednesday night to defy the far-right and send a message that communities would not be divided by hate."

 

   What percentage of the UKs population is 25 000 ?

The headline says Britain fought back , should 25 000 people be classified as speaking on behalf of 70 Million people 

Not speaking on the behalf of rightwing thugs rioting, that’s for sure.

 

 

15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The wider public seem to have a different view:

 

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-riots-anti-racism-walthamstow-london-b2593146.html

Naive (edited) , or do you think I am? You can see from the pre printed fuchsia/yellow stand against racism  placards this is FUNDED the far left - SWP with Union support. They assembled in the locations given out by Lowles of Hope not Hate and of course because it was a fake location nobody from the "far right" was there so the left could then claim that they forced them off the streets. Walthamstow was MUCH larger than the handful of people that turned up elsewhere.

 

i already told you this was the reality but you dismissed it as "conspiracy theory" without countering - the tactic of smearing without explanation.

 

You are so susceptible to political manipulation that if you are not a propagandist I feel sad for you.

 

People spontaneously assembled with pre printed placards?. Puhuhuleeze

Edited October 31, 20241 yr by mokwit

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

Idiot, or do you think I am? You can see from the pre printed fuchsia/yellow stand against racism  placards this is FUNDED the far left - SWP with Union support. They assembled in the locations given out by Lowles of Hope not Hate and of course because it was a fake location nobody from the "far right" was there so the left could then claim that they forced them off the streets. Walthamstow was MUCH larger than the handful of people that turned up elsewhere.

 

i already told you this was the reality but you dismissed it as "conspiracy theory" without countering - the tactic of smearing without explanation.

 

You are so susceptible to political manipulation that if you are not a propagandist I feel sad for you.

Do you mind if in the interests of civility I don’t answer that question?!

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Do you mind if in the interests of civility I don’t answer that question?!

No, you can say what you want if it is directed against me, I believe in free and fair debate and am quite thick skinned, or are you applying the "pretend to be offended tactic" to avoid answering?

 

GO AHEAD. let's hear it. if you think I am the idiot say so., other members can judge for themselves, but it would help if you support your arguments rather than just smear or post a link from a biased source.

 

In fairness I should have called you naive or gullible, rather than idiot - I will try and amend the post - especially if it will help you answer.

Edited October 31, 20241 yr by mokwit

2 minutes ago, mokwit said:

No, you can say what you want if it is directed against me, I believe in free and fair debate and am quite thick skinned, or are you applying the "pretend to be offended tactic" to avoid answering?

 

GO AHEAD. let's hear it. if you think I am the idiot say so., other members can judge for themselves, but it would help if you support your arguments rather than just smear or post a link from a biased source.

No, I’ll leave you to your attempt to engage in baiting and flaming.

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, mokwit said:

For the record I am very disturbed by the assembly/attempted arson outside building housing "asylum seekers" as there might have been genuine asylum seekers there, not just country upgraders.

Edited 15 minutes ago by mokwit

 

For the record I’m disturbed by that riot/attempted arson because rioting and attempted arson of a building with people inside is an obscenity, regardless of who the inhabitants are.

56 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Again speculation.

 

You think ‘they knew’. 
 

Do you think the police are right to ask people not to speculate as it might prejudice the trial?

 

 

 

Explain then Chomps did or did they not find Ricin and a terrois't handbook at his home ? or is it speculation that it might have been without evidence, i know what your up to Chomps that's why you have a massive post count you don't debate you just repeat the same message like a tape loop to get your count up.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

No, I’ll leave you to your attempt to engage in baiting and flaming.

 

 

 

 

For the record I’m disturbed by that riot/attempted arson because rioting and attempted arson of a building with people inside is an obscenity, regardless of who the inhabitants are.

So is a kid murderer, obviously planning genocide of some sort, as well as his initial killing of children, because he was brought up in a dodgy environment.......🤔

 

You cannot protect this religious nutter.......🤔

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No, I’ll leave you to your attempt to engage in baiting and flaming.

A bit rich coming from you who smears everybody who doesn't share your spoonfed propaganda views, but it is really a tactic "pretend to be offended/pretend to be occupying the high ground". Methinks you have no answer.

Just now, transam said:

So is a kid murderer, obviously planning genocide of some sort, as well as his initial killing of children, because he was brought up in a dodgy environment.......🤔

 

You cannot protect this religious nutter.......🤔

Who’s ’protecting’ him.

 

He’s in police custody awaiting trial and I have already given my views on how I would like to see that proceed.

 

I’ve also given my view, shared by the police, that online speculation is a threat to a secure conviction.

 

I trust that is clear.

Just now, mokwit said:

A bit rich coming from you who smears everybody who doesn't share your spoonfed propaganda views, but it is really a tactic "pretend to be offended/pretend to be occupying the high ground". Methinks you have no answer.

Irony is dead.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No, I’ll leave you to your attempt to engage in baiting and flaming.

 

 

 

 

For the record I’m disturbed by that riot/attempted arson because rioting and attempted arson of a building with people inside is an obscenity, regardless of who the inhabitants are.

Yes I should have been clearer, arson is right out. Assembling peacefully and non threateningly to make it clear to people who are not real asylum seekers that they are not welcome would be acceptable only if you could be 100% sure that there were no genuine asylum seekers present.

4 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Explain then Chomps did or did they not find Ricin and a terrois't handbook at his home ? or is it speculation that it might have been without evidence, i know what your up to Chomps that's why you have a massive post count you don't debate you just repeat the same message like a tape loop to get your count up.

I don’t need to explain that to you, those are the very facts recently released by the police report we are discussing.

 

I think my post count is directly proportional to the number of baseless claims being made by the people I’m sharing this discussion with.

6 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

you don't debate you just repeat the same message like a tape loop to get your count up.

Precisely. he never debates, only smears or make some snidey comment.

1 minute ago, mokwit said:

Yes I should have been clearer, arson is right out. Assembling peacefully and non threateningly to make it clear to people who are not real asylum seekers that they are not welcome would be acceptable only if you could be 100% sure that there were no genuine asylum seekers present.

But it wasn’t peaceful assembly was it?

 

It was a violent riot and attempted arson of a building with people trapped inside.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Who’s ’protecting’ him.

 

He’s in police custody awaiting trial and I have already given my views on how I would like to see that proceed.

 

I’ve also given my view, shared by the police, that online speculation is a threat to a secure conviction.

 

I trust that is clear.

Go back to the actual murder thread..............🤔

For an incident to be formally declared as a terrorist incident, it must meet a series of legal tests, including the threat of serious violence, serious damage to property or an act that is designed to influence the Government, intimidate the public and be done with the intention of promoting a political, religious, racial or ideological cause. 

 

Production of Ricin an AQ terror manual must be a grey area for Starmer and the Starmerlets🤔

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I don’t need to explain that to you, those are the very facts recently released by the police report we are discussing.

 

I think my post count is directly proportional to the number of baseless claims being made by the people I’m sharing this discussion with.

It's so good of you, Comrade Squealer, to come in and correct our wrongthink (yes I know, I am conflating two different books)..

You really are just winding up members aren't you but I've rumbled you Chomps how long do you think this Animal would last in the prison if he was not segregated stop being wind up merchant.

Just now, transam said:

Go back to the actual murder thread..............🤔

Forgive me Transam I was simply doing you the curtesy of responding to the comment you made to my earlier post.

 

I perhaps mistakenly thought that’s how discussion works.

 

 

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

You really are just winding up members aren't you but I've rumbled you Chomps how long do you think this Animal would last in the prison if he was not segregated stop being wind up merchant.

Well I’m not getting personal am I?

 

So please if you don’t mind I’ll continue to express my views and challenge the plethora of baseless claims this thread is ‘blessed’ with.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Forgive me Transam I was simply doing you the curtesy of responding to the comment you made to my earlier post.

 

I perhaps mistakenly thought that’s how discussion works.

 

 

You are known here for protecting folk of foreign routes, this kid is another...🥴

Just now, transam said:

You are known here for protecting folk of foreign routes, this kid is another...🥴

A bizarre allegation and remark which goes directly against the instruction of your last post.

You going to answer the question  on how long this child killer would survive if he was not segregated. Or as i suspect you will carry on Patronizing members to get your post count going rather than asnswer.

Just now, BarraMarra said:

You going to answer the question  on how long this child killer would survive if he was not segregated. Or as i suspect you will carry on Patronizing members to get your post count going rather than asnswer.

I have no idea, and I’m not in the least concerned.

 

I have already expressed my sincere hope that he’s locked away for the rest of his putrid life, I have no opinion on how long that putrid life should be and have never expressed any opinion on the matter.

 

Sorry to have disappointed your expectation.

Its ok Chomps it clarifies all we need to know about you have a good day.

Just now, BarraMarra said:

Its ok Chomps it clarifies all we need to know about you have a good day.

Indeed.............😉

3 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Its ok Chomps it clarifies all we need to know about you have a good day.

Good day Barra. 
 

I’m glad I could give an honest and sensible answer to your question.