How to Squander Money and Ruin Our Reputation in this World

[Yagoda]

15 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Don't tell @Yagoda facts that do not appear on X or Truth Social, he won't read nor believe it. 

Well lets see some facts first before you decide what I will or will not read or will or will not believe. Your lot are usually short on those.

[Baht Simpson]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Well lets see some facts first before you decide what I will or will not read or will or will not believe. Your lot are usually short on those.

Here's one for you. 

 

 Homosexuality is not an illness or disorder, but a form of sexual expression.

 

Source: The American Psychiatric Association, The American Psychological Association, and the American Academy of Pediatrics.

 

If you believe otherwise that's your tragedy and something you'll just have to live with.

[Talon]

It's always great to see Leftists trying to justify the waste of US tax revenue -- AGAIN.

[Lacessit]

35 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Sure, get out your Leftist crystal ball

Don't need one. IIRC the policies were independently costed.

[Lacessit]

6 minutes ago, Talon said:

It's always great to see Leftists trying to justify the waste of US tax revenue -- AGAIN.

It's always great to see Trumpists trying to explain away his addition of $7.8 trillion to the national debt, the third largest of any president.

[Liverpool Lou]

48 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Fact check:

 

Harris policies will add $1.2 trillion to the US national debt.

 

Trump policies will add $5.8 trillion.

Says who?  Aren't alleged "facts", such as those supposed to be backed by a credible (unbiased) source on this forum?    

[tomazbodner]

33 minutes ago, Captain Monday said:

When I was in UNIVERSITY I had wanted to apply for State, or CIA. Lost interest, it is very competitive and I had not the grades nor the stamina for Graduate school

Really I did not want a career lying for America. Learning the history of protecting and smuggling out Nazis, notably  Klaus Barbie was an inflection point of my “patriotism “
 

So I pursued career in Aviation. Living the dream. 

I think after De Havilland Comet, and before COVID, that was some of the most rewarding jobs out there.

[Baht Simpson]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I call B.S.

You wouldn't have any objection if the policies were about criticism of persecution of Christians abroad.

Indeed. The Republicans have sidled up to and likely funded Christian Nationalists who have promoted the stigmatizing and persecution of LGBT+ in African countries which has resulted in the death penalty and other draconian punishments in some. 

 

https://issafrica.org/iss-today/ghana-and-uganda-echo-each-other-s-clamp-down-on-gay-people

[Yagoda]

3 hours ago, Baht Simpson said:

Here's one for you. 

 

 Homosexuality is not an illness or disorder, but a form of sexual expression.

 

Source: The American Psychiatric Association, The American Psychological Association, and the American Academy of Pediatrics.

 

If you believe otherwise that's your tragedy and something you'll just have to live with.

Yeah well, its a bit more nuanced than that LOL

https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/diversity/education/best-practice-highlights/working-with-lgbtq-patients

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/205418

 

Follow the links from there and tell me what comes first, the chicken or the egg. And do you agree that Psychiatry  is a field uniquely suited to political pressure?

[Yagoda]

7 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Says who?  Aren't alleged "facts", such as those supposed to be backed by a credible (unbiased) source on this forum?    

A rare occurence from the repetitive Leftists

[impulse]

11 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It's always great to see Trumpists trying to explain away his addition of $7.8 trillion to the national debt, the third largest of any president.

 

If you look away from that unfortunate pandemic thing, Harris/Biden have been piling on debt faster than Trump did.

 

 

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GFDEBTN/

 

 

Edited November 1 by impulse

[worgeordie]

3 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Total straw man. Total difference. 

Still in the cult Yagoda ,not come to your senses yet , the man you follow,

does not  care a fig about you or the rest of his followers , he only thinks of

himself  , he is only running to try and stay out of  jail. as he is a criminal, sex

offender, grifter , a huge liar ,almost everything he says is a lie ,I hope one day

you open your eyes and see him for what he really is.....

 

regards Worgeordie

[Lacessit]

17 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Says who?  Aren't alleged "facts", such as those supposed to be backed by a credible (unbiased) source on this forum?    

Says me. On the basis of memory.

 

If you think I am going to waste my time looking for the source to satisfy a poster who will probably shriek bias, think again.

 

Trump will give tax cuts to billionaires and the rich. That adds to the national debt. Conversely, Harris taxes the rich, which subtracts from it. Simple logic.

 

If you have facts that say different, post them.

Edited November 1 by Lacessit

[impulse]

25 minutes ago, Talon said:

It's always great to see Leftists trying to justify the waste of US tax revenue -- AGAIN.

 

Without even passing any judgment on transgenderism, it's divisive, and it's money not spent on our own needs at home.

 

May as well fund building synagogues in Riyhad.  It would be a similar waste, and make us just as many friends.

 

[madone]

3 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I call B.S.

You wouldn't have any objection if the policies were about criticism of persecution of Christians abroad.

i have objections on two fronts. the first is the poster calling LGBTQ and the rest of the alphabet soup sexual perversion. 

The next is the US government involving itself not in criticism of persecution for LGBTQ but in promoting it and other half baked divisive DEI initiatives without its own house in order. 

[Baht Simpson]

5 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Yeah well, its a bit more nuanced than that LOL

https://www.psychiatry.org/psychiatrists/diversity/education/best-practice-highlights/working-with-lgbtq-patients

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/205418

 

Follow the links from there and tell me what comes first, the chicken or the egg. And do you agree that Psychiatry  is a filed uniquely suited to political pressure?

Those headings show a timeline of the withdrawal of psychiatric opinion categorising homosexuality as an illness or disorder.  The only disorder they clarify is that of “persistent and marked distress about one’s sexual orientation.” which is brought about by stigmatization and homophobia detailed in the notes below, not the actual sexual orientation itself. 

 

Nobody else seems to think homosexuality is an illness, not even Christians who merely see it as a sin. 

 

Are you willing to re-visit your thoughts on this?

[Talon]

8 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Without even passing any judgment on transgenderism, it's divisive, and it's money not spent on our own needs at home.

 

May as well fund building synagogues in Riyhad.  It would be a similar waste, and make us just as many friends.

 

 

Everyone -- including many Democrat voters -- are still wondering where all that infrastructure money went for bridges, roads, the Internet, etc.

[Liverpool Lou]

9 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Says me. On the basis of memory.

 

If you think I am going to waste my time looking for the source to satisfy a poster who will probably shriek bias, think again.

 

Trump will give tax cuts to billionaires and the rich. That adds to the national debt. Conversely, Harris taxes the rich, which subtracts from it. Simple logic.

 

If you have facts that say different, post them.

Not facts, then, just your speculative opinion.  I'm not claiming to have facts, you did that even though you can't justify what you posted.

[Yagoda]

13 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Still in the cult Yagoda ,not come to your senses yet , the man you follow,

does not  care a fig about you or the rest of his followers , he only thinks of

himself  , he is only running to try and stay out of  jail. as he is a criminal, sex

offender, grifter , a huge liar ,almost everything he says is a lie ,I hope one day

you open your eyes and see him for what he really is.....

 

regards Worgeordie

Well, thanks for your observations. You have Man City this weekend.

[Yagoda]

14 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Says me. On the basis of memory.

 

If you think I am going to waste my time looking for the source to satisfy a poster who will probably shriek bias, think again.

 

If you have facts that say different, post them.

Translation: I made it up and am just an Aussie trolling anyway

[Yagoda]

8 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

Those headings show a timeline of the withdrawal of psychiatric opinion categorising homosexuality as an illness or disorder.  The only disorder they clarify is that of “persistent and marked distress about one’s sexual orientation.” which is brought about by stigmatization and homophobia detailed in the notes below, not the actual sexual orientation itself. 

 

Nobody else seems to think homosexuality is an illness, not even Christians who merely see it as a sin. 

 

Are you willing to re-visit your thoughts on this?

Um...no. 

 

What came first, the chicken or the gg? And are you a psychiatrist? 

[Talon]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Translation: I made it up and am just an Aussie trolling anyway

 

They make claims -- and then expect you to source their nonsense.

[Baht Simpson]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Um...no. 

 

What came first, the chicken or the gg? And are you a psychiatrist? 

 

I've no idea what you're on about with chickens and eggs.

 

Am I a psychiatrist? No, but I can read what psychiatrists say, helped by your link. 🙂 

 

In any case I don't need a psychiatrist to explain about sexual orientation. It's as clear as day. 

[Yagoda]

11 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said:

 

I've no idea what you're on about with chickens and eggs.

 

Am I a psychiatrist? No, but I can read what psychiatrists say, helped by your link. 🙂 

 

In any case I don't need a psychiatrist to explain about sexual orientation. It's as clear as day. 

How much did you read? Just those two?

[worgeordie]

44 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Well, thanks for your observations. You have Man City this weekend.

What kind of response is that ,bringing football into a debate on the Orange narcist guy.

 

regards worgeordie

[RSD1]

5 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Call it whatever you want, spending my tax money on discretionary and controversial overseas activism (when we're $35 trillion in debt) is one of the reasons we have Americans voting for Trump.

 

Ponder that one...

 

You can't be serious. What alternative reality are you living in? Trump plans to raise the deficit much more than Harris does based on both of their economic and fiscal plans. When Trump was asked about this issue in a recent interview, comparing his plans to Harris's in terms of increasing the deficit, he did his usual incomprehensible, off-topic and tangential rambling which diverted away from answering the question. But the question still remains as to why he's so far off the page. 

 

More specifically and to the point: If elected in 2024, both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris have economic plans projected to add trillions to the national debt, though Trump’s proposals would likely have a substantially larger impact. According to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), Harris’s plan is estimated to increase the deficit by around $3.5 trillion over a decade, primarily through expanded social benefits like child tax credits, healthcare subsidies, and housing incentives. Trump’s plan, on the other hand, is projected to add roughly $7.5 trillion, due in large part to significant tax cuts, especially on Social Security benefits, and other tax exemptions. Trump’s broader fiscal policies could have a higher deficit impact due to his proposed across-the-board tariffs and the elimination of overtime tax exemptions, among other measures.

[Yagoda]

11 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

What kind of response is that ,bringing football into a debate on the Orange narcist guy.

 

regards worgeordie

Why would I debate a Geordie about anything else? Its not like what you say about American  is useful, knowledgeable  or coherent?

[bubblegum]

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Not facts, then, just your speculative opinion.  I'm not claiming to have facts, you did that even though you can't justify what you posted.

Instead of asking for links (at later claim they are bias) you could actually follow the news. Read The Economist for instance. You might learn something.

[impulse]

17 minutes ago, RSD1 said:

More specifically and to the point: If elected in 2024, both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris have economic plans projected to add trillions to the national debt, though Trump’s proposals would likely have a substantially larger impact. According to the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), Harris’s plan is estimated to increase the deficit by around $3.5 trillion over a decade, primarily through expanded social benefits like child tax credits, healthcare subsidies, and housing incentives.

 

Did that forecast come from the same yobs who claimed inflation was transitory, Harris/Biden created 15 million jobs, had to revise the monthly job gains down 17 of the last 18 months, recently had to revise the violent crime figures to reflect the truth that violent crime did go up, told us for 3-1/2 years that Biden was sharp as a tack behind closed doors, and that the border was secure, nothing to see there?

 

Because I don't believe them any more.  They lost our trust.  They can't even predict the past honestly.

 

[Liverpool Lou]

3 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Not facts, then, just your speculative opinion.  I'm not claiming to have facts, you did that even though you can't justify what you posted.

Instead of asking for links (at later claim they are bias) you could actually follow the news. Read The Economist for instance. You might learn something.

As could you!

 

The reason that I asked him was that I do read the news and his post was not factual.  

 

"Instead of asking for links (at later claim they are bias) you could..."

Instead of lamely attempting to rebuke me for asking for sources of, clearly, false information, you could have posted your Economist's confirmation of his figures...if there was any.  Obviously there are not.