The extensive efforts to prosecute Donald Trump have paradoxically reinforced his position of legal immunity, setting a concerning precedent for future presidents. Despite the unprecedented volume of legal challenges Trump faced, these actions have ultimately fortified his protections, effectively placing him—and his successors—further beyond the reach of the law.  

 

As Trump prepares for his second term, the pursuit of justice for his alleged misconduct during his first presidency appears to have stalled. This pause has only emboldened the notion that holding a sitting or former president accountable is an extraordinary challenge.

 

In a striking development, Special Counsel Jack Smith recently moved to dismiss two pivotal cases against Trump. These included charges related to attempts to overturn the 2020 election results and mishandling classified documents. Meanwhile, the sentencing for Trump’s conviction on 34 fraud-related charges tied to the New York hush money case has been indefinitely postponed, with the possibility of the case being dismissed altogether. Although the election interference case in Georgia technically remains unresolved, its progress appears uncertain at best.  

 

The most consequential outcome of these prosecutions, however, lies in the Supreme Court's ruling that former presidents enjoy immunity from prosecution for their "official acts." This landmark decision leaves the interpretation of "official acts" deliberately vague, awaiting further clarification only if and when another former president faces indictment. For now, the court’s definition is broad enough to grant Trump—and future presidents—ample confidence that their actions while in office are unlikely to lead to legal consequences.  

 

Critics, particularly among Democrats and progressive legal scholars, argue that the Justice Department’s delay in initiating prosecutions significantly hampered these efforts. They contend that a swifter approach following President Biden’s inauguration might have yielded different results. Jack Smith, for instance, was only appointed in late 2022, and his first indictment came more than six months later. A faster process, some suggest, could have allowed sufficient time to challenge and refine the Supreme Court's interpretation of "official acts," potentially salvaging parts of the January 6 indictment.  

 

While Trump now holds the dubious distinction of being the first former president convicted of a felony, the broader implications of his legal battles overshadow this milestone. After facing four trials and numerous charges, he returns to the presidency more legally insulated than ever before. This outcome not only redefines the boundaries of presidential accountability but also raises pressing questions about the future integrity of the office itself.  

 

Based on a report by AXIOS 2024-11-28

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Social Media said:

Critics, particularly among Democrats and progressive legal scholars, argue that the Justice Department’s delay in initiating prosecutions significantly hampered these efforts. They contend that a swifter approach following President Biden’s inauguration might have yielded different results. Jack Smith, for instance, was only appointed in late 2022, and his first indictment came more than six months later. A faster process, some suggest, could have allowed sufficient time to challenge and refine the Supreme Court's interpretation of "official acts," potentially salvaging parts of the January 6 indictment.

Apparently we have much to thank the Dems incompetence for . Had they been more diligent we might have that diabolical woman as president in waiting.

 

Thank you Mr Biden, good job!

2 hours ago, Social Media said:

The extensive efforts to prosecute Donald Trump have paradoxically reinforced his position of legal immunity, setting a concerning precedent for future presidents. Despite the unprecedented volume of legal challenges Trump faced, these actions have ultimately fortified his protections, effectively placing him—and his successors—further beyond the reach of the law.  

Blew up in their faces, didn't it, KA BOOOM.

X 93

4 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Apparently we have much to thank the Dems incompetence for . Had they been more diligent we might have that diabolical woman as president in waiting.

 

Thank you Mr Biden, good job!

"...diabolical..." and likely drunk as a pig too. Have a listen and you be the judge. 

 

 

7 hours ago, Social Media said:

the pursuit of justice

Its not justice, it's lawfare, plain and simple. Cannot spin this any other way.

 

LOL, they waited until Trump confirmed his intentions to run for office at which time soon after announcing his candidacy  Biden's DOJ commenced their lawfare to imprison Trump and prevent him from campaigning complete with constitutionally  illegal gag orders, VERY biased left leaning supporting Biden judges, Total hoax, bogus indictments, made up crimes, barred by statute of limitations, fed misdemeanor crimes morphed into state felonies with no actual state felony identified. Some of the actors involved in Bidens failed lawfare attempts to imprison Trump will /should be taken to task on this and jailed for their roles in this illegal persecution of ones political rival as specific deterrence to prevent this from happening again. There's no middle ground on this.  Trumps DOJ, & pending FBI nominee will see to this BiG TIME. 

7 hours ago, Social Media said:

In a striking development, Special Counsel Jack Smith recently moved to dismiss two pivotal cases against Trump. These included charges related to attempts to overturn the 2020 election results and mishandling classified documents.

The weasel better run while he can. Trump's a comin' for him. If he thinks dismissing the cases will save him all it does is prove he built his case on nothing but BS and hate.

Same will happen to all the other BS political persecution cases that were brought by the dark side to try and eliminate him from contention.There have to be a lot of weasels out there sweating now. We know who they are.

The constant legal persecution of Trump pre election was not seen as  justified by American voters. 

Thankfully his election will put a stop to the biased non stop legal proceedings against him. 

58 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The weasel better run while he can. Trump's a comin' for him. If he thinks dismissing the cases will save him all it does is prove he built his case on nothing but BS and hate.

Same will happen to all the other BS political persecution cases that were brought by the dark side to try and eliminate him from contention.There have to be a lot of weasels out there sweating now. We know who they are.

Quite so, they all thought that Trump couldn't win with all the skullduggery going on, boy are they in  for a shock!

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These charges have only been postponed, not dismissed. In the worst case, they will have to sit dormant for four years until a new president is inaugurated. After that, these charges can be reopened, and the trials and sentencing can continue.

A fitting ending as well as adding a new dimension to the phrase "trumped up" charges

Don't forget Biden and his top administration people are now imune from all of Trumps threats. The imunity handed down by SCOTUS covers  both parties not just republicans. So more empty threats from the KING of tariffs and inflation.

14 minutes ago, Paul Henry said:

Don't forget Biden and his top administration people are now imune from all of Trumps threats. The imunity handed down by SCOTUS covers  both parties not just republicans. So more empty threats from the KING of tariffs and inflation.

Trump only has to expose all the skullduggery in the Biden camp to make them pariah, even if they don't see the inside of a court. Got to be more bad stuff of Hunter's just waiting to be discovered.

As a Brit I can only say, from a considerable distance,  that these prosecutions appear to have been more politics driven than justice driven.

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Trump only has to expose all the skullduggery in the Biden camp to make them pariah, even if they don't see the inside of a court. Got to be more bad stuff of Hunter's just waiting to be discovered.

You mean like the GOP Senate Committee which ridiculously failed after two years of fishing? 😀

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The weasel better run while he can. Trump's a comin' for him. If he thinks dismissing the cases will save him all it does is prove he built his case on nothing but BS and hate.

Same will happen to all the other BS political persecution cases that were brought by the dark side to try and eliminate him from contention.There have to be a lot of weasels out there sweating now. We know who they are.

It looks like it's your post built on B.S. and hate. 😀

The cases were good enough to convince judges and grand juries...

5 hours ago, WDSmart said:

These charges have only been postponed, not dismissed. In the worst case, they will have to sit dormant for four years until a new president is inaugurated. After that, these charges can be reopened, and the trials and sentencing can continue.

Dream on........

 

3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

As a Brit I can only say, from a considerable distance,  that these prosecutions appear to have been more politics driven than justice driven.

I see you like euphemisms, which I do too when appropriate but in this case the DOJ weaponized the law against Trump, purely for political reason to try and stop him running again.........It didn't work, obviously

I you look at the bigger picture the Dems have been after Trump for over 10 years, with investigations, inquiries (mueller), Impeachments, court cases, and finally assassination attempts, one of which was deadly. But he still came back and won!

7 hours ago, WDSmart said:

These charges have only been postponed, not dismissed. In the worst case, they will have to sit dormant for four years until a new president is inaugurated. After that, these charges can be reopened, and the trials and sentencing can continue.

Just keep hoping.  You have gotten up every day for the last 9 years knowing today is the day they were going to get Trump.  Give it up.  Lawfare is now dead.  We have real material against democrats.  Hope Trump gets an AG that can punish them.

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23 hours ago, Social Media said:

 

The extensive efforts to prosecute Donald Trump have paradoxically reinforced his position of legal immunity, setting a concerning precedent for future presidents. Despite the unprecedented volume of legal challenges Trump faced, these actions have ultimately fortified his protections, effectively placing him—and his successors—further beyond the reach of the law.  

Its unAmerican and unprecedented to

use weaponized lawfare to pursue 

a innocent figurehead such as Donald Trump, America’s 45th and soon to be 47th POTUS.

This is a Axios article so its bias against Trump to begin with! Jack Smith was ruled illegitimate by a federal judge!

The left leaning lawfare article below on Presidential Immunity , ends its article sighting the dem Jacksons dissenting  opinion , instead of the Majority’s decision which I find rather odd.

 

What all this says is the Arbitrator of the Constitution ,the SCOTUS got it right ! And that justice Jackson who couldn’t describe what a woman is during confirmation hearings got it wrong!

 

 

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-supreme-court-s-presidential-immunity-decision

Edited November 28, 20241 yr by riclag

14 hours ago, RichardColeman said:

Another story brought to you by a left leaning organisation

Agree. If a political bias was run on articles on here regarding US politics the needle would IMHO be showing left. A bit like this

Case in point AXIOUS political bias is

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/axios

Edited November 28, 20241 yr by dinsdale

Just another example of the how to incompetence of Biden and its crew. Allow your top donors to determine who your most important cabinet secretaries are and these things happen. 

14 hours ago, thaipo7 said:

Hope Trump gets an AG that can punish them.

I'm getting the popcorn ready for the "Payback Show". Sure to be a winner.

18 hours ago, thaipo7 said:

Just keep hoping.  You have gotten up every day for the last 9 years knowing today is the day they were going to get Trump.  Give it up.  Lawfare is now dead.  We have real material against democrats.  Hope Trump gets an AG that can punish them.

Although I don't agree with most of what you said above, I do have one question: If you (and Trump) think the AG and the Judicial Branch of the US government were out to get him, and their prosecutions were a misuse of their office, why now do you think is it okay for Trump's AG to use the Judicial Branch to prosecute Democrats? If it was wrong before, it is wrong now, right?

Of course, I know Trump has no ethics and does not care about what rules he breaks...

Donald's in the clear and heading for the white house.

 

Joe doesn't know where he is. 

 

The Dems are in the wilderness.

 

Marvellous.

 

 

 

More good news for all the Trump haters and it's all bad. Remember that fulton county GA mug shot you all wet yourselves over, (the bogus hoax laughable RICO case), AND got Trump a big bump in the polls and help send him to a LANDSLIDE election victory November 5th...remember that one??

 

Well guess what,.... much to your chagrin, the case is going down the toilet drain along with all things Biden/Harris and their near perfect record of failures. Fani and Nathan screwed this one up BIG TME and now the loser DA Wade, since booted from the case for corruption needs to explain himself as does DA Fani Willis to Trump's incoming DOJ why he/they met with Biden/Harris whitehouse lawyers AT THE WHITEHOUSE just prior to handing down the fulton RICO indictment. Lawfare failed now it's time for Pam Bondi's DOJ to lay down the rule of law,  execute proper justice and prosecute those involved to hold them accountable and bring strong specific deterrence to and future notions of illegal lawfare by democrats who can't win elections without cheating and jailing political opponents.

FAILURE is a big part of all things democrat.

 

 

On 11/29/2024 at 2:14 AM, riclag said:

a innocent figurehead such as Donald Trump,

I think that is probably one of the funniest things I have seen on Thai Visa/ASEAN Now in what, over 15 years.

 

Donald Trump an innocent! 😄😄😄

 

He has a long history of criminal practises, cheating and actions going back to long before his political career.

 

In any jurisdiction not prostituted to money and beholden to political interests he would have been convicted and sentenced long ago.

 

Now he has, through an extremely unethical legal team managed to avoid the somewhat feeble attempts of corrupt legal system to hold him to account for some blatant and egregious actions; displaying a contempt for the rule of law which has reduced the United States legal system to an international laughing stock, destroyed trust with its allies and trading partners.

 

It is just as well that those behind MAGA embrace isolationism, because no-one is going to want to have anything to do with the USA for the next few years. 

 

International relationships, political, military (alliances) and economic run on trust. With that fat fool at the top of the heap, revelling in the cheating, bullying and lying which has propelled him there, no one will trust the USA, friends or enemies. Every world gathering will spend the next 4 years sniggering at the thought of him shagging a porn star!

 

USA, you are in for a bad few years, you have thrown away 250 years of creating the leading democratic nation in the modern world, to put a wannabe tyrant on a throne of soiled fast food wrappers.

 

As you may have gathered I hold Trump in contempt, and I am afraid the corrupted and manipulated system which he has used.

 

Anyway, I feel better for getting that off my chest.
 

Donald Trump an innocent! 😄😄😄

 

 

 

Edited November 30, 20241 yr by herfiehandbag

On 11/28/2024 at 5:51 PM, mikeymike100 said:

Dream on........

 

I see you like euphemisms, which I do too when appropriate but in this case the DOJ weaponized the law against Trump, purely for political reason to try and stop him running again.........It didn't work, obviously

I you look at the bigger picture the Dems have been after Trump for over 10 years, with investigations, inquiries (mueller), Impeachments, court cases, and finally assassination attempts, one of which was deadly. But he still came back and won!

A great comeback by any measure, and well deserved after all the disgraceful attempts to eliminate him.

I believe there is 38 countries plus/minus he cannot enter with his criminal record, maybe its waived being a President........

On 11/29/2024 at 11:11 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm getting the popcorn ready for the "Payback Show". Sure to be a winner.

So foreign protesters and ethnic war dances in the NZ seat of Government are less concern to you than US politics?