On 12/14/2024 at 3:56 PM, AndreasHG said:

I have a hard time understanding the stance of the British right leaning journalists working for GB News, unless they are promoting a pro Farage agenda.

 

Brexit has caused a surge in the immigration of Muslims who have replaced Eastern European as a major source of cheap labor in the UK. This is something that happened with the Tories firmly in government, benefitting of an overwhelming majority in the House, and has nothing to do with Labor (which is certainly not improving the state of affairs anyway).

 

In 2023 these were the top 5 nationalities of immigrants in the UK: Indian (250,000), Nigerian (141,000), Chinese (90,000), Pakistani (83,000), Zimbabwean (36,000). 

In total, approximately 1.03 million people from outside the European Union migrated to the UK in the year ending December 2023. This compares with 126,000 people from European Union countries, and 61,000 British nationals.

 

In 2016, the year Britain voted for Brexit, the total number of people moving to the UK was made up of 264,000 non-EU citizens, 250,000 EU citizens and 74,000 British citizens.

Not only immigration was lower and comparatively under control, but the ratio was by far more in favor of immigrants having an European cultural background.

 

Bottom line: Britons have been screwed by Brexit. It's time to face reality, learn the bitter lesson and move on. This is the British way. Keep on moaning is utterly un-British.

 

Moaning and blaming others seems to be the Brexiteers's way.

 

Since UK left, they cannot go on whining as much as before about the EU and plumbers from Poland, so now they are mainly whining about Muslims.

11 minutes ago, candide said:

Moaning and blaming others seems to be the Brexiteers's way.

 

Since UK left, they cannot go on whining as much as before about the EU and plumbers from Poland, so now they are mainly whining about Muslims.

 

   There have been remarks about Pakistani family marriages even before Brexit , even from within the NHS they remarked on all the deformed Children from family marriages 

4 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

In 2022-23 1,218,000 new foreigners were allowed in. Of that number 499,500 signed on to universal credit. That is 41%.

 

    51 % of British families receive Universal credit , so immigrants receive less than British families do 

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    51 % of British families receive Universal credit , so immigrants receive less than British families do 

Got a reliable link for that? Seems dubious.

End of 2023, there were approximately 28,441,000 households in the UK. 5,400,000 households were on Universal credit. So it would be nearly impossible for 51% of British families to be on Universal credit, unless there where more immigrant families than British people (and what is a 'British' family?) 

 

As to be expected, this thread is full of disinformation.

 

https://www.ibisworld.com/uk/bed/number-of-households/44090/

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/universal-credit-statistics-29-april-2013-to-11-january-2024/universal-credit-statistics-29-april-2013-to-11-january-2024#households-on-universal-credit

10 minutes ago, rickudon said:

Got a reliable link for that? Seems dubious.

End of 2023, there were approximately 28,441,000 households in the UK. 5,400,000 households were on Universal credit. So it would be nearly impossible for 51% of British families to be on Universal credit, unless there where more immigrant families than British people (and what is a 'British' family?) 

 

As to be expected, this thread is full of disinformation.

 

https://www.ibisworld.com/uk/bed/number-of-households/44090/

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/universal-credit-statistics-29-april-2013-to-11-january-2024/universal-credit-statistics-29-april-2013-to-11-january-2024#households-on-universal-credit

 

   Ah, it was 51 % of UK Families receive some kind of financial state support , rather than just U.C

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    51 % of British families receive Universal credit , so immigrants receive less than British families do 

 

They are British though.

I recall back in the good old days of ISIS that they called for (I think, could be wrong) Hajj which I understood to be an invasion into infidel territory.

Seems to have worked.

On 12/14/2024 at 2:15 PM, stevenl said:

I presume you meant this link since yours isn't working?

https://www.britishpoles.uk/bbc-muhammad-takes-over-noah-as-the-most-popular-boys-name-in-england-and-wales/

Obscure website with nothing to substantiate your claim "BBC reported 62% of babies born in the UK last year where born to non British mothers. ".

 

On 12/14/2024 at 2:32 PM, recom273 said:

 

The BBC story is laughable, this is the kind of junk that Farage repeats and his followers accept without question, and repeat  - yes, statistically Mohammed may well be the most popular name in the UK -  it could be that the country is being over run with muslims, which isnt quite true but it also demonstrates UK residents chose their names from a wider and more diverse pool, whereas the 31% of non-UK mothers who may be muslims still chose to name their babies after the most important person in their religion. I think if you conducted this survey over the muslim world you would find a much higher percentage. In my own class register, most kids in my classes that I teach have either Mohammed or a condensed or derived form as either their first or second name.

 

Laughable really, just the kind of crap Tommy ten names would cite as empirical fact that the UK is being over run by muslims.

The last Uk census was 2021 the BBC quoted statistics for 2023/24

1 hour ago, jippytum said:

 

So still nothing to substantiate your claims.

15 hours ago, emptypockets said:

I recall back in the good old days of ISIS that they called for (I think, could be wrong) Hajj which I understood to be an invasion into infidel territory.

Seems to have worked.

Hajj means pilgrimage.

20 hours ago, candide said:

Moaning and blaming others seems to be the Brexiteers's way.

 

Since UK left, they cannot go on whining as much as before about the EU and plumbers from Poland, so now they are mainly whining about Muslims.

Its not your country so what do you care?

1 hour ago, recom273 said:

Hajj means pilgrimage.

He meant Jihad.

21 hours ago, candide said:

Since UK left, they cannot go on whining as much as before about the EU and plumbers from Poland, so now they are mainly whining about Muslims.

 

Quite right too.

 

Those opposed to excessive immigration that is detrimental to our country should not discrimate, we oppose all excess immigration equally, irrespective of race or religion.

 

Thanks for pointing that out. 

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Quite right too.

 

Those opposed to excessive immigration that is detrimental to our country should not discrimate, we oppose all excess immigration equally, irrespective of race or religion.

 

Thanks for pointing that out. 

 

If those opposed to 'excessive immigration' consider it their number one concern, perhaps they should campaign for the UK to rejoin the EU as the data shows the number of immigrants were only +/-60% of the current number.

 

https://www.statista.com/statistics/283287/net-migration-figures-of-the-united-kingdom-y-on-y/

20 hours ago, Yagoda said:

He meant Jihad.

I think that kind of proves a point.

 

I read an article the other day, the rise of the populist right coupled with the widespread use of social media has resulted in a huge rise in stupid people getting involved in politics for the first time, the effect on the landscape, posting their opinion where traditionally they were out of their depth and kept their opinion to the works tea room. 
 

How can you be so illinformed to get hajj and jihad confused? 

15 minutes ago, recom273 said:

I think that kind of proves a point.

 

I read an article the other day, the rise of the populist right coupled with the widespread use of social media has resulted in a huge rise in stupid people getting involved in politics for the first time, the effect on the landscape, posting their opinion where traditionally they were out of their depth and kept their opinion to the works tea room. 
 

How can you be so illinformed to get hajj and jihad confused? 

Could be just a brain fart. I used to confuse the Japanese words Okama and okara. That was embarrassing in restaurants.

On 12/14/2024 at 12:57 PM, blazes said:

Since the MSM rarely report Muslim activities of a negative nature, GB News is merely filling the gap  where otherwise silence would reign.

Good for them!

 

23 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Could be just a brain fart. I used to confuse the Japanese words Okama and okara. That was embarrassing in restaurants.

 
I could “forgive” the poster, but brain farts are happening every day on GBNews by politicians who should know better. 

41 minutes ago, recom273 said:

I think that kind of proves a point.

 

I read an article the other day, the rise of the populist right coupled with the widespread use of social media has resulted in a huge rise in stupid people getting involved in politics for the first time, the effect on the landscape, posting their opinion where traditionally they were out of their depth and kept their opinion to the works tea room. 
 

How can you be so illinformed to get hajj and jihad confused? 

By stupid, you mean people that disagree with smart people like you, yes? 

On 12/14/2024 at 3:05 PM, James105 said:

 

The UK will become majority muslim one day.   Not in my or your lifetimes, but your grandkids or the kids of your grandkids will likely experience this in theirs.  The unwritten rule that the current generation will hand down a better world to the next generation has been broken as once that majority is reached the UK will undoubtedly become a sharia law country and all the horrors that come along with that.   I've never understood the reveration of the left towards the most illiberal, conservative, homophobic, intolerant, violent, misogynistic group of people on the planet.  

Brilliantly said
 

We are the world , we are the ones who’ll make a brighter day for you and me!

The world of do gooders Didn’t work fast enough in efforts to GIVE, so they brought it to our shores.

Just now, Yellowtail said:

By stupid, you mean people that disagree with smart people like you, yes? 

 
No, it was a word used by the article - I think it was byline times, I was looking for the link. It was more of a light hearted post about the increased relevance of social media in todays political scene.

26 minutes ago, recom273 said:

 
I could “forgive” the poster, but brain farts are happening every day on GBNews by politicians who should know better. 

I wouldnt know I dont watch it. Islam is the religion of hate and violence. Whats the debate?