E bike battery

[David gilbert]

Does anybody know somewhere I n pattaya that can repair mountain e bike battery I can only get 8 miles used to be 25.. thanks in advance

[SAFETY FIRST]

This is the problem with EV vehicles. 

 

Once battery is done, EV ready for landfill. 

 

[BritManToo]

Photo of bike, photo of battery, voltage of battery, ah of battery?

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

This is the problem with EV vehicles. 

 

Once battery is done, EV ready for landfill. 

 

Not necessarily, and we are talking about an ebike.  Easily and inexpensively replaced.  And thankfully EV vehicles, if meaning cars, batteries last for 1000+ cycles, as long or longer than ICEVs.

 

As BritMan2 states, a lot more info needed to assist.   Especially the battery itself, bike & specs all around.   Price point means quite a bit, when buying electronics.

 

Sometimes you get what you pay for.  My 1st test battery was cheap & crap, didn't last long,but was no surprise for the price.

[David gilbert]

20 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Photo of bike, photo of battery, voltage of battery, ah of battery?

 

[MangoKorat]

19 hours ago, KhunLA said:

And thankfully EV vehicles, if meaning cars, batteries last for 1000+ cycles, as long or longer than ICEVs.

How is that a comparison?  A normal ICE car has just one battery - an EV has many.

[KhunLA]

44 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

How is that a comparison?  A normal ICE car has just one battery - an EV has many.

Do you think I'm comparing the 'batteries'  

 

Mind boggling 

[MangoKorat]

2 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Do you think I'm comparing the 'batteries'  

 

Mind boggling 

I don't know why it would boggle your mind.  What you appear to be implying is that EV batteries are less of a problem regarding landfill because they last longer.

 

The point I am making, and in all honesty, I think you know this, is that although an EV battery may last as long or even longer than the battery for a conventional ICE vehicle - an EV uses far more of them. 99.9% of ICE cars have just 1 battery.

[KhunLA]

1 hour ago, David gilbert said:

 

Guessing this is the make. ... Talarai

Model ? ... Sur-Ron ?

 

I see the label on Talarai FB site, same label, but not 100%.   How old is bike / battery.  Battery may be poor clone, or one on FB a clone, and also possible.  

 

Is this the bike and did you get it from ...  Talaria Thailand  or Falcon ?

Talaria email:   *removed*

 

 

[KhunLA]

7 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

I don't know why it would boggle your mind.  What you appear to be implying is that EV batteries are less of a problem regarding landfill because they last longer.

 

The point I am making, and in all honesty, I think you know this, is that although an EV battery may last as long or even longer than the battery for a conventional ICE vehicle - an EV uses far more of them. 99.9% of ICE cars have just 1 battery.

My point I was making, the battery of a BEV (car) would last as long as any ICE car.

 

1000 cycles for low tech battery @ 300 kms per cycle = 300 kms.   AND, probably still have 70% capacity left.

 

If LFP battery chemistry, then 900k kms, w/70% capacity left, and that's a very conservative estimate.

[OneMoreFarang]

21 hours ago, David gilbert said:

Does anybody know somewhere I n pattaya that can repair mountain e bike battery I can only get 8 miles used to be 25.. thanks in advance

Whatever you do, make sure you get it done professionally.

 

 

[Ralf001]

1 hour ago, MangoKorat said:

How is that a comparison?  A normal ICE car has just one battery - an EV has many.

 

both  ICE an EV have multiple cells.... making 1 battery !

[MangoKorat]

3 hours ago, Ralf001 said:

 

both  ICE an EV have multiple cells.... making 1 battery !

We are talking about waste and landfill.  Are you suggesting that the actual mass of an EV battery set is the same as that of the battery on a conventional ICE car?

 

If so, you might want to check on that 🙃.

[KhunLA]

2 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

We are talking about waste and landfill.  Are you suggesting that the actual mass of an EV battery set is the same as that of the battery on a conventional ICE car?

 

If so, you might want to check on that 🙃.

Who is talking about that ?

 

Most ICE batteries, get partially recycled, I think, I hope.

 

BEV batteries get repurposed for energy storage, whether private solar systems or elsewhere.  Nothing should be going to the landfills.

 

When our BEV can't keep up with the battery, the pack will get repurposed to the solar system.  

 

Anyone got any info to help the OP ??? 

[MangoKorat]

55 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

BEV batteries get repurposed for energy storage, whether private solar systems or elsewhere.  Nothing should be going to the landfills.

Even that use has a time limit. Eventually they will end up as waste and need dealng with.

[KhunLA]

3 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

Even that use has a time limit. Eventually they will end up as waste and need dealng with.

You must be Amish and or a subsistence farmer ...

 

... Hypocrisy - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform.

[MangoKorat]

1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

You must be Amish and or a subsistence farmer ...

 

... Hypocrisy - the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform.

Or the practice of defending the use of EV's at all costs - eh? When every aspect is taken account of, its not at all certain that any EV's will achieve what they are supposed to. 

 

In this case for example, we are talking about an electric bicycle - something that was previously human powered and therefore very sustainable. Depending on your point of view, there is also the issue of all types of bicycle being a bloody dangerous nuisance - some of us find them totally incompatible on roads where cars etc. are travelling at 100kmh +.

 

Now bicycles have batteries so that's at the very least, an additional use of resources. Then we have the issues of additional power requirements to charge those batteries and the recycling of those batteries at the end of their life. People say they will be recycled and can be put to other uses. Will that actually happen?  In the UK we are finding that some items on which we spend time separating out for collection and 'recycling' are not in fact, actually being recycled. There's talk, and then there's reality.

 

Its a bit like Google and Meta trying to convince us that they are working hard at creating a more sustainable world whilst behind the scenes their 'Cloud's, Data Centres and AI facilities are consuming vast amounts of electricity and I mean VAST. In some countries they have created 'dry villages' where people's water supplies have dried up through them being diverted to cool those facilities.  Do we actually need those data centres or are they simply the result of companies like Google and Meta driving their already huge profits forward?

 

I've read a few of your posts in other threads on EV's so I'm very aware that you're unlikely to consider any critical thinking on the matter. I on the other hand, am just someone who wants to see something actually done to combat climate change - not just gimmicks that in reality, simply add to the problem and provide sales opportunities for big business. An important component of tackling climate change is the reduction of consumption.  Do EV's and in particular, electric bikes add to our consumption or reduce it?

 

I think I've explained my position and we're way off on a tangent so I'll leave it at that but maybe you could explain exactly where I've been 'hypocritical'?