Reform UK Surpasses Conservative Party Membership in Landmark Shift

[newbee2022]

Just now, baansgr said:

That ole chestnut, What countries...,.like Vietnam, Albania, venezuela...get a new excuse, the old one has been done to death

Obviously not. Because it's the right point. The inequality of life and the lack of safety is the only one trigger to leave. Leaving to countries where women are safe, children have to eat and can attend school and where jobs are available.

 

[newbee2022]

2 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Stop answering questions with a question and answer my question please...

Read my posts, please

[brewsterbudgen]

Great news!  Farage would be love to see the destruction of the Tories and Reform being the opposition.  And as a Labour supporter, so would I 👏.  A 2nd Labour term guaranteed.

[baansgr]

1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

Obviously not. Because it's the right point. The inequality of life and the lack of safety is the only one trigger to leave. Leaving to countries where women are safe, children have to eat and can attend school and where jobs are available.

 

So why UK, not part of our empire and they are in France a SAFE country..economic migrants that are too bone idle to do anything about it except come and scrounge off the UK..your politics are right outa the 70s..even John Lennon said in 1971 it wouldn't matter how much aid was given to foreign countries, it won't do any good...and he was right..different cultures have different values and a lot of them are not comparable with that of UK

[Thingamabob]

18 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

No, much better, Irish from Limerick

Ah. maybe that's why you appear unable to write English correctly.

[The Old Bull]

The UK must respond to the disease of Islam. First you stop them coming then you deal with those already in the UK. People that trade 13 year old girls for goats do not belong.

[baansgr]

6 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Read my posts, please

Would help if you read.mine and answered my question..how has Farage lied, or said anything racist..come on, either you are still scrolling through Google to find an example or know what you say is BS

[The Cyclist]

21 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

To stop illegal immigration you have to start with improvements for the people in Middle East and Africa 

 

Some of those Countries fought long, hard wars, where many people died to gain their Independence from the UK.

 

I don't think Vietnam, Albania, Brazil and a host of others, were Countries that had to fight wars against the UK to gain their Independence.

 

So you might want to rethink your comment.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Bday Prang said:

 

Because he's all for controlling illegal immigration and therefore he must be a nazi.    everybody on social media says so.....So there, it must be true

Congratulations, you hat the thread’s Godwin Gong.

[newbee2022]

1 minute ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Some of those Countries fought long, hard wars, where many people died to gain their Independence from the UK.

 

I don't think Vietnam, Albania, Brazil and a host of others, were Countries that had to fight wars against the UK to gain their Independence.

 

So you might want to rethink your comment.

Mentioning Albania, Vietnam, Brazil.....as far as I know there are neither in Africa nor Middle East. 

Use Google for personal improvements, please.

[newbee2022]

9 minutes ago, baansgr said:

Would help if you read.mine and answered my question..how has Farage lied, or said anything racist..come on, either you are still scrolling through Google to find an example or know what you say is BS

You've mistaken me. Not my post. Good night 

[newbee2022]

12 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Ah. maybe that's why you appear unable to write English correctly.

Can't see mistakes. 

[transam]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Congratulations, you hat the thread’s Godwin Gong.

Eh...? 

[baansgr]

4 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

You've mistaken me. Not my post. Good night 

So you can't find any...typical lefty LBC lover...talks the talk but can't walk the walk...you have just proved to everyone what a lieing person you are...more votes for Nigel, thankyou very much

[bkk_mike]

He's the person that pushed Brexit for decades, saying it would solve migration...

Only for immigrants station to shoot up after Brexit.

Brexit is a disaster. It's costing the country £2 billion a week and nobody is talking about it.

Why do you think he changed the name of the party from the Brexit party.

 

So the idiots that were sold the idea that Brexit would solve everything are now being told to "blame the immigrants". And that the solution is to withdraw from the ECHR so we can treat them worse than laws set up to literally prevent another Hitler say we're allowed to treat people. (And if you think removing their human rights won't as a side-effect take away our human rights - then you're an idiot of the highest order).

 

By the time you're posting here, you'll be living in Thailand. Think how you'd be feeling if Thai people were proclaiming their support for a political party that blamed immigrants for all their problems...

 

P.S. Before Brexit, I seem to remember Farage saying we can "be like Norway" quite a lot. Given leaving the Single Market, and the loss of passporting is causing more than half the tax losses from Brexit, the fact we chose to be like Albania in terms of our deal with the EU, rather than "being like Norway", is the biggest problem of Brexit.

[jayboy]

10 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Great news!  Farage would be love to see the destruction of the Tories and Reform being the opposition.  And as a Labour supporter, so would I 👏.  A 2nd Labour term guaranteed.

 

You are misreading the signals.Throughout the Western world we are seeing a collapse of the moderate centre right and the British conservative party is no exception. The Labour Party won a landslide victory but it was very shallow, and the inept Starmer has the lowest poll numbers for decades. The current government appears to politically incompetent and has shown to be dishonest in its election campaign.It's also clear that political parties have lost their traditional  class based support.A second Labour term is definitely not guaranteed and Reform is a very real possibility for government. This makes me as depressed as you I expect.

[The Cyclist]

 

Uh - Huh

 

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Mentioning Albania, Vietnam, Brazil.....as far as I know there are neither in Africa nor Middle East. 

 

Yes, that is the point

 

Which makes a complete mockery of your

 

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To stop illegal immigration you have to start with improvements for the people in Middle East and Africa 

 

So how does making improvements in Africa and the ME account for illegals from Albania, Georgia, Vietnam, Turkey, Sri Lanka ?

[AndreasHG]

1 hour ago, jippytum said:

If he stops illegal immigration he's a winner.

 

LOL. At present the only thing Farage stopped is the Conservative Party.

The Conservatives are responsible for bringing havoc upon themselves, having done a terrible job with immigration, which was allowed to increase exponentially after Boris Johnson's 2019 election victory and especially after Brexit. 

But Reform UK gave the Tories a helping hand. By dividing the right-leaning votes, Farage delivered a victory of historic proportions to Labour. And as long as voters on the right remain divided, Labor won't have to worry about ending up in the opposition.
Farage and Reform UK are Labour's best friends.

 

[jayboy]

2 minutes ago, bkk_mike said:

By the time you're posting here, you'll be living in Thailand. Think how you'd be feeling if Thai people were proclaiming their support for a political party that blamed immigrants for all their problems

 

I suspect that if Thailand's traditional way of life had been undermined by uncontrolled mass immigration, and Bangkok had become a city where 40% came from ethnic minorities - all done without consultation or popular agreement - the Thai people would be taking action of an ugly but understandable nature.

[The Cyclist]

5 minutes ago, AndreasHG said:

But Reform UK gave the Tories a helping hand. By dividing the right-leaning votes, Farage delivered a victory of historic proportions to Labour. And as long as voters on the right remain divided, Labor won't have to worry about ending up in the opposition.
Farage and Reform UK are Labour's best friends.

 

Take it from a Brit. This is utter garbage.

 

Reform or no Reform, the Tories were getting spanked at the last GE, Independentsnwould have made more gains

 

Labour have not yet had a year in the big chair, and have already consigned themselves to defeat at the next GE.

 

The sight of exploding heads and Tsunamis of salty tears will be a joy to behold IF Reform / Farage win the next GE, and on current trajectory, that is looking likely.

[Thingamabob]

6 minutes ago, bkk_mike said:

He's the person that pushed Brexit for decades, saying it would solve migration...

Only for immigrants station to shoot up after Brexit.

Brexit is a disaster. It's costing the country £2 billion a week and nobody is talking about it.

Why do you think he changed the name of the party from the Brexit party.

 

So the idiots that were sold the idea that Brexit would solve everything are now being told to "blame the immigrants". And that the solution is to withdraw from the ECHR so we can treat them worse than laws set up to literally prevent another Hitler say we're allowed to treat people. (And if you think removing their human rights won't as a side-effect take away our human rights - then you're an idiot of the highest order).

 

By the time you're posting here, you'll be living in Thailand. Think how you'd be feeling if Thai people were proclaiming their support for a political party that blamed immigrants for all their problems...

Ridiculous. Those controlling borders in Britain are not doing their job, likewise the civil servants processing immigration applications. It is an utter shambles entirely created by the inadequacy of successive Tory and Labour governments. Not a great fan of Farage, but this mess is not due him or his policies. A further point, you would do well to stop calling people you don't agree with idiots. You're clearly not so smart yourself.

[jayboy]

17 minutes ago, AndreasHG said:

But Reform UK gave the Tories a helping hand. By dividing the right-leaning votes, Farage delivered a victory of historic proportions to Labour. And as long as voters on the right remain divided, Labor won't have to worry about ending up in the opposition.

 

"Labour will take false comfort from a divided Right-wing vote, thinking that will secure it a second term. But before 2025 is out Reform might well have established itself as Labour's main challenger. Either that or it will have dawned on Labour that it is caught in a vice similar to the one which did down the Tories in 2024: losing to Reform in the North and the Tories in the South (just as the Tories lost this year to Labour and the Liberal Democrats)."

 

Andrew Neil

 

[newbee2022]

24 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Uh - Huh

 

 

Yes, that is the point

 

Which makes a complete mockery of your

 

 

So how does making improvements in Africa and the ME account for illegals from Albania, Georgia, Vietnam, Turkey, Sri Lanka ?

You're the laughing stock of today.

Why do you think a doctor from Syria left his home country and came to UK or EU??? Or why young women from Afghanistan left their home and made it to EU or UK?

I hope I don't underestimate your intelligence?

To make it easy for you to understand: 

Why nobody from UK leaves his/her country to settle in Nigeria? Or Afghanistan? 

 

[newbee2022]

34 minutes ago, baansgr said:

So you can't find any...typical lefty LBC lover...talks the talk but can't walk the walk...you have just proved to everyone what a lieing person you are...more votes for Nigel, thankyou very much

As I said before: it's NOT my post you try to answer to. Too much booze yesterday or not sober yet???😳

[baansgr]

1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

As I said before: it's NOT my post you try to answer to. Too much booze yesterday or not sober yet???😳

You said Nigel is a liar and a racist I asked you to give me an example of something he said to be a lie or racist and you have refused...more pathetic deflection about alcoholism..I don't drink

[The Cyclist]

Just now, newbee2022 said:

You're the laughing stock of today.

 

I completely understand that illegals from

 

32 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

Albania, Georgia, Vietnam, Turkey, Sri Lanka ?

 

Have got nothing to do with Africa or the ME.

 

The laughing stock, which is you, struggle to work it out.

 

Like most exploding heads, you all have one thing in common, which is nothing of substance. You only have hatred and invectives, too dumb to understand those are they very things that are fuelling the very thing that you hate. The rise of Farage and Reform.

 

So dry your salty tears and watch live, as your hatred drives up the numbers

 

https://www.reformparty.uk/counter

[proton]

1 hour ago, newbee2022 said:

If UK would have stopped exploiting it's colonies but make people a living, then there would nobody leave his country. 

To stop illegal immigration you have to start with improvements for the people in Middle East and Africa 

 

No you don't you just have to stop the boats, stop all benefits given to them and stop making excuses for them, our colonies where some come from were over decades ago.

[newbee2022]

2 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

I completely understand that illegals from

 

 

Have got nothing to do with Africa or the ME.

 

The laughing stock, which is you, struggle to work it out.

 

Like most exploding heads, you all have one thing in common, which is nothing of substance. You only have hatred and invectives, too dumb to understand those are they very things that are fuelling the very thing that you hate. The rise of Farage and Reform.

 

So dry your salty tears and watch live, as your hatred drives up the numbers

 

https://www.reformparty.uk/counter

You'll the loser, in UK and Thailand I reckon.

But I'm not surprised that very simple minds in UK follow Farage. To solve the immigration problem is not as simple as simple minds thinking. If you don't understand the reasons why they're coming you will not be part of any solution. YOU are the problem.

Please stop your hate speech. It's a disgrace 

[newbee2022]

Just now, proton said:

 

No you don't you just have to stop the boats, stop all benefits given to them and stop making excuses for them, our colonies where some come from were over decades ago.

Yes, and the disparity and inequality was growing over decades.

Unfortunately you don't understand why they leave their countries. Would you leave UK if you wouldn't forced to? 

[The Cyclist]

2 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

To solve the immigration problem is not as simple as simple minds thinking.

 

Sure, that is why I keep telling you that Africa and the ME has nothing to do with

 

10 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

Illegals from Albania, Georgia, Vietnam, Turkey, Sri Lanka ?

 

But your simple mind cannot grasp that fact.