Is Obesity a Very Serious Problem?

[KhunLA]

4 hours ago, scubascuba3 said:

Very true, people get on these weird keto type diets when if they had an ounce of self discipline they could cut out the rubbish junk food, you just have to read these threads to see how mixed up they are

Nothing weird about a Keto (ish) diet, except someone put a 'label' on it, and it's simply common sense.  Cut out the high sugar (simple or complex) carbs.  Stick to fats & protein, and fibrous carbs.   

 

Cutting ultra processed junk food is just common sense, some don't seem to have.  Many don't realize how addicting carbs are.    Like any addiction, only takes a few days to break, and the rest is easy self discipline.    

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Monkeys can get diabetes. Some species are more prone than others.

so where do they go for treatment these monkeys with diabetes? 

[save the frogs]

29 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Nothing weird about a Keto (ish) diet

one guy I've been following claims we need at least 100 grams of carbs per day.

he consumes a lot more, but is extremely active. 

but he claims 100 is the baseline for decent health and keto has negative effects long-term.

but again, there is a lot of debate with regards to carbs. so i am not saying he is right.

some people have cut them out completely. 

 

[KhunLA]

19 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

one guy I've been following claims we need at least 100 grams of carbs per day.

he consumes a lot more, but is extremely active. 

but he claims 100 is the baseline for decent health and keto has negative effects long-term.

but again, there is a lot of debate with regards to carbs. so i am not saying he is right.

some people have cut them out completely. 

Don't know about all that, though 100 gr doesn't sound like much.  As a 100gr slice of whole wheat bread has about 40g of carbs.

 

I just know the less starchy carbs & sugars I eat, the better I feel, and my blood work #s agree.

 

[henryford1958]

I was out on Christmas Eve and was amazed at how many young Thai women were grossly overweight. Where do they even buy clothes to fit their massive behinds.

[scubascuba3]

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

but white flour and even whole grain flours can be considered junk food by many, including myself. as they are inflammatory. 

 

white rice and sweet potatoes might be better more benign carb options, along with fruit. 

 

but you're overweight, how is that working for you?

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, save the frogs said:

so where do they go for treatment these monkeys with diabetes? 

I am not aware they are treated, except the ones in captivity.

[Lacessit]

21 hours ago, Airalee said:

193cm 86kg

 

See you on the next thread discussing low carb diets. 😘 

BMI 23, that's impressive.

 

I did use the Bangkok Hospital calculator, which says you are overweight. Presumably they set a different benchmark for Thais, as most calculators say under 25.

 

Or perhaps they are just trying to drum up business.

[Lacessit]

18 hours ago, scottiejohn said:

Obesity is primarily a problem of the obese so I don't care except for the fact that back in the UK they are a heavy burden on the NHS!

I used to play golf with a guy who made his fortune manufacturing bariatric beds for hospitals.

[KhunLA]

15 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Presumably they set a different benchmark for Thais, as most calculators say under 25. ... Or perhaps they are just trying to drum up business.

You might be correct, as new digital scales at local hospital now includes BMI reading. 

 

I'm @ 25, but far from overweight.  Have more lean muscle mass than most.   I'm almost the same weight as I was when I got out of boot camp @ 21 yrs old, and not an ounce of fat on me then, though wasn't much to begin with.  

[Lacessit]

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

but white flour and even whole grain flours can be considered junk food by many, including myself. as they are inflammatory. 

 

white rice and sweet potatoes might be better more benign carb options, along with fruit. 

 

White rice does not get a pass from me, it's a low fibre food. Whole grain bread has 5-10 times more fibre.

 

Fibre gives a full feeling more quickly. It also slows down the absorption of sugar into the bloodstream

 

Sweet potato is a good source of vitamins, minerals and fibre, especially with the skin left on.

[Airalee]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

BMI 23, that's impressive.

 

I did use the Bangkok Hospital calculator, which says you are overweight. Presumably they set a different benchmark for Thais, as most calculators say under 25.

 

Or perhaps they are just trying to drum up business.

As I’ve been in Vietnam for the last couple months, I have admittedly eaten more carbs (baguettes mostly).  Usually I’m around 80kg.  Most of the current additional weight is water weight.

 

I just know for myself that I generally feel much better on a low carb diet.  As I mentioned in a previous post, I think that strict zero carb can be too dehydrating so what works best for me is to stay mostly carnivore (beef butter salt water) but have about a half cup of blueberries before bedtime.  Any more than that and inflammation comes creeping in (sinus, skin and joints).

 

When initially working with my functional practitioner and reintroducing a small amount of carbs, even sweet potatoes were having negative affects on me.  All my doctors think that for me, carnivore has been quite beneficial after originally showing some amount of skepticism.

 

If someone is able to eat carbs without the negative effects that I experience, I think…great for them!   I’m not sure why the usual suspects show up whenever low carb diets are discussed and start to throw around personal insults.   Perhaps they own bars or bakeries?  It’s really odd that they care so much and that my personal situation makes them so vitriolic.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

As I’ve been in Vietnam for the last couple months, I have admittedly eaten more carbs (baguettes mostly).  Usually I’m around 80kg.  Most of the current additional weight is water weight.

 

I just know for myself that I generally feel much better on a low carb diet.  As I mentioned in a previous post, I think that strict zero carb can be too dehydrating so what works best for me is to stay mostly carnivore (beef butter salt water) but have about a half cup of blueberries before bedtime.  Any more than that and inflammation comes creeping in (sinus, skin and joints).

 

When initially working with my functional practitioner and reintroducing a small amount of carbs, even sweet potatoes were having negative affects on me.  All my doctors think that for me, carnivore has been quite beneficial after originally showing some amount of skepticism.

 

If someone is able to eat carbs without the negative effects that I experience, I think…great for them!   I’m not sure why the usual suspects show up whenever low carb diets are discussed and start to throw around personal insults.   Perhaps they own bars or bakeries?  It’s really odd that they care so much and that my personal situation makes them so vitriolic.

Perhaps your detractors are envious.

 

Everyone's physiology is different. For example, injecting me with morphine for pain is about as effective as injecting me with saline solution.

 

Therefore, it should come as no surprise some people can ingest copious carbs, and stay as thin as a rake, whereas others react to carbs by stacking on the kilos. I know I am in the latter category.

 

Happy New Year.

[RSD1]

On second thought, maybe fruit in Thailand isn't the best idea:

 

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2928616/tests-show-high-levels-of-pesticide