Mother Forgets 4-Year-Old at Beach, Realises Back Home

[richard_smith237]

Just now, BarBoy said:

Never saw that once in the west.

 

An adult riding a scooter with a child on the front and back without helmets.

 

Not even once..

 

Of course you didn't...   But, you're still trying too shoe-horn your generalised nasty negative bias against Thailand into the discussion.

 

So many other nations behave in a similar way. The common characteristics across these regions are: economic necessity, practicality, cultural acceptance and climate - and those counties include:

Vietnam, Indonesia. Philippines, Cambodia, Laos, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, China, Taiwan, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Nigeria, Ghana, Togo, Benin, DR Congo, Cameroon, Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan

 

 

Thus:  The phenomenon of families riding together on scooters in Thailand but not in Western countries can be attributed to to the factors listed in greater detail below:

 

 

Economic Factors

Affordability: In many parts of Southeast Asia, including Thailand, scooters and motorbikes are more affordable than cars, making them the primary mode of transport for families.

Income Levels: Families in Thailand may not have the financial means to purchase a car, so scooters are a practical and cost-effective alternative.

 

Cultural Norms

Acceptability: In Thailand, it is culturally normal and widely accepted to see multiple people on a scooter. It's a common and efficient way to transport a family.

Community Practices: People grow up seeing others using scooters in this way, reinforcing the norm.

 

Infrastructure

Urban Design: Many cities in Thailand have dense traffic and narrow streets that make scooters more practical than cars.

Parking: Scooters require less space and are easier to park in crowded urban areas.

Public Transportation: Public transportation in some Western countries is more robust, reducing the need for families to use scooters.

 

Regulatory Environment

Traffic Laws: Western countries often have stricter traffic laws and enforcement, such as limits on the number of passengers allowed on a vehicle and mandatory use of car seats for children.

Safety Standards: Western safety regulations prioritize car use for family travel, emphasizing crash safety and individual restraints.

 

Climate

Weather Conditions: The warm and dry climate in Thailand makes riding scooters more comfortable year-round, while colder or wetter climates in much of the West discourage scooter use.

 

Perception of Safety

Safety Concerns: Many Western families prioritize safety and may view scooters as less safe for transporting children, especially with the risk of accidents.

Helmets and Gear: Western regulations often require all passengers to wear helmets, which may not always align with how families in Thailand use scooters.

 

Vehicle Ownership Trends

Car Ownership: In Western countries, cars are more common and often considered essential for family transportation. In Thailand, scooters are more accessible to a wider population.

 

Practicality

Distance and Speed: Families in Western countries often travel longer distances at higher speeds, which makes cars more suitable. In Thailand, scooters are ideal for shorter urban commutes.

 

 

 

 

Now - if you are going to shoe-horn in your bias, please make sure you present an intelligent argument and not just blind prejudice. 

[BarBoy]

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

So many other nations behave in a similar way.

does that mean it's OK, Richard?

 

So many other nations DON'T behave in a similar way!

[richard_smith237]

1 hour ago, BarBoy said:

1 hour ago, richard_smith237 said:

So many other nations behave in a similar way.

does that mean it's OK, Richard?

 

So many other nations DON'T behave in a similar way!

 

I just gave you a list of a load of other nations where the same practices are the norm !!!

 

 

Does it mean its ok ?...   thats a very simplistic and dumbed down question which fails to understand and acknowledge a whole list of factors (which I also listed) which dictate why such behaviours exist in Thailand and similar nations [behaviours of whole families on motorcycles]. 

 

If you are willing to step outside of your bigoted prejudice and attempt to understand the world around you rather than persist in applying your nasty and negatively bias generalisations then you'll have to turn off your silly binary thought processes as these issues are multifaceted. 

 

Thus: your comments have been answered already - if you don't wish to follow the discussion on an intellectual level do so, but I will not stoop to the dumbed down over-simplification standards of your bigotry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BarBoy]

15 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

I just gave you a list of a load of other nations where the same practices are the norm !!!

 

 

Does it mean its ok ?...   thats a very simplistic and dumbed down question which fails to understand and acknowledge a whole list of factors (which I also listed) which dictate why such behaviours exist in Thailand and similar nations [behaviours of whole families on motorcycles]. 

 

If you are willing to step outside of your bigoted prejudice and attempt to understand the world around you rather than persist in applying your nasty and negatively bias generalisations then you'll have to turn off your silly binary thought processes as these issues are multifaceted. 

 

Thus: your comments have been answered already - if you don't wish to follow the discussion on an intellectual level do so, but I will not stoop to the dumbed down over-simplification standards of your bigotry.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here's my analysis then, Richard. Just for you.

 

IMO life is cheap in Thailand. They just don't care and aren't educated well enough on road safety. Many (wrongly) believe that wearing amulets around their necks will protect them anyway, so why bother with the helmet in the first place??

 

If someone can afford a Honda click, then they can afford a helmet from Tesco. Alright, granted, that helmet isn't going to be the best quality, but it is better than nothing...

 

I also think laziness is a factor. Many thais just can't be bothered putting a helmet on their children's heads or wearing one themselves.

 

Hope this is satisfactory for you, Richard. And if it's not well too bad, I aint being paid to reply to you!

[NoDisplayName]

8 hours ago, Tropicalevo said:

Happens more often than people think.

Friends took the new baby to the pub when they went for a meal.

Baby was in a carry cot fast asleep.

Friends finished the meal and went home.

Pub called them to ask if they were coming back for the baby.

 

What makes you think your friends "forgot?"

[SAFETY FIRST]

4 hours ago, jvs said:

Safety first right?

No,selfish bad mother.

Could be all of the above 

[ikke1959]

happily she forget her kid, suppose it was her phone....

[ikke1959]

5 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Of course you didn't...   But, you're still trying too shoe-horn your generalised nasty negative bias against Thailand into the discussion.

 

So many other nations behave in a similar way. The common characteristics across these regions are: economic necessity, practicality, cultural acceptance and climate - and those counties include:

Vietnam, Indonesia. Philippines, Cambodia, Laos, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, China, Taiwan, Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania, Nigeria, Ghana, Togo, Benin, DR Congo, Cameroon, Brazil, Colombia, Peru, Ecuador, Honduras, Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan

 

 

Thus:  The phenomenon of families riding together on scooters in Thailand but not in Western countries can be attributed to to the factors listed in greater detail below:

 

 

Economic Factors

Affordability: In many parts of Southeast Asia, including Thailand, scooters and motorbikes are more affordable than cars, making them the primary mode of transport for families.

Income Levels: Families in Thailand may not have the financial means to purchase a car, so scooters are a practical and cost-effective alternative.

 

Cultural Norms

Acceptability: In Thailand, it is culturally normal and widely accepted to see multiple people on a scooter. It's a common and efficient way to transport a family.

Community Practices: People grow up seeing others using scooters in this way, reinforcing the norm.

 

Infrastructure

Urban Design: Many cities in Thailand have dense traffic and narrow streets that make scooters more practical than cars.

Parking: Scooters require less space and are easier to park in crowded urban areas.

Public Transportation: Public transportation in some Western countries is more robust, reducing the need for families to use scooters.

 

Regulatory Environment

Traffic Laws: Western countries often have stricter traffic laws and enforcement, such as limits on the number of passengers allowed on a vehicle and mandatory use of car seats for children.

Safety Standards: Western safety regulations prioritize car use for family travel, emphasizing crash safety and individual restraints.

 

Climate

Weather Conditions: The warm and dry climate in Thailand makes riding scooters more comfortable year-round, while colder or wetter climates in much of the West discourage scooter use.

 

Perception of Safety

Safety Concerns: Many Western families prioritize safety and may view scooters as less safe for transporting children, especially with the risk of accidents.

Helmets and Gear: Western regulations often require all passengers to wear helmets, which may not always align with how families in Thailand use scooters.

 

Vehicle Ownership Trends

Car Ownership: In Western countries, cars are more common and often considered essential for family transportation. In Thailand, scooters are more accessible to a wider population.

 

Practicality

Distance and Speed: Families in Western countries often travel longer distances at higher speeds, which makes cars more suitable. In Thailand, scooters are ideal for shorter urban commutes.

 

 

 

 

Now - if you are going to shoe-horn in your bias, please make sure you present an intelligent argument and not just blind prejudice. 

Sounds so simple as I read it but there is no awareness in Thailand, no education in driving, school or at home and everybody drives as they like and no enforcement of any law. In the Western countries the fines are high and must be paid but with the corruption of a few hundred THB you never can control the traffic. The lazy and corrupt RTP is a big part of the problems.. and speeding at longer distances as you claim is totally not true.. Here everybody is speeding even in my soi which is barely 300meters cars and motorcycles drive like crazy...and not only in my soi in many others too as friends experience the same