Evidence of Covid19 vaccine shedding

[Airalee]

4 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Not worried at all.

 

I'm just hoping something really nasty comes along with a 90% mortality rate, to take out all the anti-vaxxers.

 

Think of the improvement in average IQ that would result.

Some things never change.

 

You’ve wanted us dead for ages.

 

It’s a leftist thing….I know.

[Airalee]

36 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

I definitely observed strange things at the height of the Covid crisis, when people were having their second boosters. Myself and others would feel unwell after visiting populated places such as supermarkets (nothing the Zelenko protocol wouldn't solve).

 

I actually still take the Z protocol today (zinc, vitamins D and C and quercetin, topped with NAC) as people are very often sick nowadays, to the point where I wonder if Geert Vanden Bossche and Luc Montagnier's prediction (that the vaccinated would continue to incubate and spread super-strains of respiratory viruses) is true. It certainly would explain the mega-flu circulating in Europe now (I know two people, one triple-jabbed and one unvaxxed, who caught it and were very ill, the triple-jabbed recovered after three weeks, the unvaxxed after ten days).

There’s that thing that is going around here (SE Asia) too that some of the vaxxed are saying it took them a month to get over.  
 

I got it too.  

 

Took Ivermectin, upped the daily NAC, and continued with the usual D3. Was over it in 3 days.

[rattlesnake]

57 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Some things never change.

 

You’ve wanted us dead for ages.

 

It’s a leftist thing….I know.

 

Yep… We don't deserve to live. Never forget what they said and condoned.

 

[Airalee]

9 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Yep… We don't deserve to live. Never forget what they said and condoned.

 

My sister told me I should be denied any medical care since I’m one of the filthy, abhorrent unvaccinated.

 

Unbelievable what these all these brownshirts condoned.

[rattlesnake]

31 minutes ago, Airalee said:

My sister told me I should be denied any medical care since I’m one of the filthy, abhorrent unvaccinated.

 

Unbelievable what these all these brownshirts condoned.

 

It certainly wasn't the heyday of humanity.

[KhunLA]

Clear evidence of shedding ...

 

[Lacessit]

7 hours ago, Airalee said:

My sister told me I should be denied any medical care since I’m one of the filthy, abhorrent unvaccinated.

 

Unbelievable what these all these brownshirts condoned.

Australian statistics showed quite clearly ICU units were 6-7 times more likely to be admitting unvaccinated COVID patients than vaccinated ones.

 

Effectively, those patients crowded out other patients without COVID who had life-threatening conditions.

 

Their relatives would think your selfishness, arising from your beliefs, is unbelievable. So do I.

[Lacessit]

9 hours ago, Airalee said:

There’s that thing that is going around here (SE Asia) too that some of the vaxxed are saying it took them a month to get over.  
 

I got it too.  

 

Took Ivermectin, upped the daily NAC, and continued with the usual D3. Was over it in 3 days.

I get it, a statistical sample of one proves your case.

 

What I don't get is information on how many COVID patients who rejected vaccination died, or suffered long COVID, after taking Ivermectin.

[Airalee]

28 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Australian statistics showed quite clearly ICU units were 6-7 times more likely to be admitting unvaccinated COVID patients than vaccinated ones.

 

Effectively, those patients crowded out other patients without COVID who had life-threatening conditions.

 

Their relatives would think your selfishness, arising from your beliefs, is unbelievable. So do I.

Thankfully I’m not Australian.   
 

My body my choice.  
 

Don’t care about their relatives and your appeal to emotion shows what a dishonest person you are.

 

And no.   It was only the unvaccinated that were crowding out other patients in the beginning when nobody was vaccinated.   
 

97% of Australians lined up for the clot shot.

 

More people got Covid after getting the shot than before as shown in the chart below.

 

Just like now.

 

Enjoy your future health problems.

[Lacessit]

9 minutes ago, Airalee said:

Thankfully I’m not Australian.   
 

My body my choice.  
 

Don’t care about their relatives and your appeal to emotion shows what a dishonest person you are.

 

And no.   It was only the unvaccinated that were crowding out other patients in the beginning when nobody was vaccinated.   
 

97% of Australians lined up for the clot shot.

 

More people got Covid after getting the shot than before as shown in the chart below.

 

Just like now.

 

Enjoy your future health problems.

It's the severity that counts, not the vaccination status. That ship has already sailed.

 

Calling me dishonest when you display the empathy of a scorpion, that's rich.

[Airalee]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

It's the severity that counts, not the vaccination status. That ship has already sailed.

 

Calling me dishonest when you display the empathy of a scorpion, that's rich.

vaccination status matters

 

keep your distance and don’t breathe on me

 

better yet, stay home or wear a mask 😷…or two

[Lacessit]

7 minutes ago, Airalee said:

vaccination status matters

 

keep your distance and don’t breathe on me

 

better yet, stay home or wear a mask 😷…or two

It certainly does, which is why employees in constant contact with the public were given the choice - work vaccinated, or don't work unvaccinated.

 

I keep my distance and don't breathe on anybody, you're safe from my imaginary shedding.

[Airalee]

19 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

It certainly does, which is why employees in constant contact with the public were given the choice - work vaccinated, or don't work unvaccinated.

 

I keep my distance and don't breathe on anybody, you're safe from my imaginary shedding.

Most employees are superfluous, useless eaters.  And they complain too much.

 

They needed to be culled.

 

Enter….clot shots.

[Highball]

Lol

 

The vaccines weren't tested at all.

 

Read RFKJRs book. Audio on tpb.

[Highball]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

It's the severity that counts, not the vaccination status. That ship has already sailed.

 

Calling me dishonest when you display the empathy of a scorpion, that's rich.

 

If by empathy you mean I am forced to wear an ineffective stupid mask and stay 2 3 meters away from everyone.. I have no empathy.

 

I don't call that empathy, I call it a psyop based on a lab manipulated govt vaccine.

[KhunHeineken]

On 1/11/2025 at 8:38 AM, Red Phoenix said:

Shedding is real.

If I took an MRNA vaccine, and was now shedding, I'd be shedding myself. 

[KhunHeineken]

"Shedding raises the possibility of transmission of VBGT or oncolytic products3 from treated to untreated individuals (e.g., close contacts and health care professionals)." 

 

"For purposes of this guidance, the term “shedding” means release of VBGT or oncolytic products from the patient through one or all of the following ways: excreta (feces); secreta (urine, saliva, nasopharyngeal fluids etc.); or through the skin (pustules, sores, wounds)."

 

I gather a condom can not protect one against a "shedder." 

 

 

[rattlesnake]

2 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

 

 

I gather a condom can not protect one against a "shedder." 

 

 

 

No, though it's probably better than nothing.

[Will B Good]

5 hours ago, Highball said:

 

 

The vaccines weren't tested at all.

 

 

Before mRNA vaccines, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines, were approved for emergency or full use, they underwent several rigorous stages of testing to assess safety and efficacy. Here’s an outline of the process:

 

1. Preclinical Testing (Lab and Animal Studies)

• Objective: To assess the safety, immune response, and potential efficacy of the vaccine.

• Process:

• Animal studies: Typically conducted in mice, rats, and non-human primates to evaluate whether the vaccine induces the desired immune response and does not cause harmful effects.

• The mRNA technology used in the COVID-19 vaccines had been previously studied in labs for other diseases (e.g., Zika, flu, cancer), but the COVID-19 vaccines were tested in animals before moving to human trials.

• Outcome: Encouraging results were obtained in animals, showing that the mRNA vaccines were effective at generating an immune response.

 

2. Phase 1 Clinical Trials (Initial Human Trials)

• Objective: To evaluate the safety and dosage of the vaccine.

• Process:

• Participants: A small group (often 20-100) of healthy volunteers.

• Testing: The focus was on safety, the immune response, and determining the appropriate dosage for further trials.

• Outcomes: This phase helped identify any immediate, severe side effects (e.g., allergic reactions) and the optimal dose that induces a good immune response.

• Duration: Typically 1-2 months.

 

3. Phase 2 Clinical Trials (Expanded Human Trials)

• Objective: To further assess safety, side effects, and immune response in a larger group of participants.

• Process:

• Participants: Hundreds of volunteers, including those from various age groups and risk categories.

• Testing: Vaccine doses were refined, and participants were monitored for side effects, immune responses, and any potential efficacy signals.

• Outcomes: This phase confirmed the safety and immune response induced by the vaccine.

• Duration: Usually several months.

 

4. Phase 3 Clinical Trials (Large-Scale Human Trials)

• Objective: To assess the vaccine’s efficacy and safety in a much larger population.

• Process:

• Participants: Thousands of volunteers (often over 30,000), including people from a wide range of demographics (e.g., elderly, people with underlying health conditions).

• Testing: This phase measured how well the vaccine protected against infection (or severe illness) and assessed side effects across a large group.

• Outcome:

• Efficacy: The mRNA vaccines showed high efficacy in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 (around 94-95% in early results for Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna).

• Safety: Serious side effects were rare, and the vaccines generally had side effects similar to those of other vaccines (e.g., soreness at the injection site, fatigue, mild fever).

• Duration: Typically lasted several months to a year.

 

5. Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) / Approval

• After Phase 3 trials, Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna submitted data to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and other regulatory bodies (e.g., the European Medicines Agency or EMA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

• Regulatory agencies conducted a thorough review of all data, including:

• Efficacy data showing that the vaccine effectively prevented severe COVID-19 illness.

• Safety data showing that the vaccines had a favorable risk-benefit profile.

• After the review, both vaccines were granted EUA by the FDA in December 2020, allowing them to be administered to the public while ongoing monitoring continued.

 

6. Post-Approval Monitoring (Phase 4)

• Objective: To continue monitoring the vaccine’s long-term safety and effectiveness in the general population.

• Process:

• Ongoing surveillance systems like the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and V-safe were used to monitor adverse events, including rare or long-term side effects.

• The EUA was later converted to full approval (for Pfizer-BioNTech in August 2021) based on continued safety and efficacy data.

 

Summary:

• Preclinical studies and clinical trials (Phases 1-3) assessed safety, immune response, and efficacy.

• The mRNA vaccines were subjected to more rigorous testing than some other vaccine types due to the novel technology, but they followed standard protocols used for any vaccine approval.

• Post-approval monitoring continues to ensure safety in the wider population.

 

Hardly......"not tested at all"

[Highball]

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Before mRNA vaccines, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines, were approved for emergency or full use, they underwent several rigorous stages of testing to assess safety and efficacy. Here’s an outline of the process:

 

1. Preclinical Testing (Lab and Animal Studies)

• Objective: To assess the safety, immune response, and potential efficacy of the vaccine.

• Process:

• Animal studies: Typically conducted in mice, rats, and non-human primates to evaluate whether the vaccine induces the desired immune response and does not cause harmful effects.

• The mRNA technology used in the COVID-19 vaccines had been previously studied in labs for other diseases (e.g., Zika, flu, cancer), but the COVID-19 vaccines were tested in animals before moving to human trials.

• Outcome: Encouraging results were obtained in animals, showing that the mRNA vaccines were effective at generating an immune response.

 

2. Phase 1 Clinical Trials (Initial Human Trials)

• Objective: To evaluate the safety and dosage of the vaccine.

• Process:

• Participants: A small group (often 20-100) of healthy volunteers.

• Testing: The focus was on safety, the immune response, and determining the appropriate dosage for further trials.

• Outcomes: This phase helped identify any immediate, severe side effects (e.g., allergic reactions) and the optimal dose that induces a good immune response.

• Duration: Typically 1-2 months.

 

3. Phase 2 Clinical Trials (Expanded Human Trials)

• Objective: To further assess safety, side effects, and immune response in a larger group of participants.

• Process:

• Participants: Hundreds of volunteers, including those from various age groups and risk categories.

• Testing: Vaccine doses were refined, and participants were monitored for side effects, immune responses, and any potential efficacy signals.

• Outcomes: This phase confirmed the safety and immune response induced by the vaccine.

• Duration: Usually several months.

 

4. Phase 3 Clinical Trials (Large-Scale Human Trials)

• Objective: To assess the vaccine’s efficacy and safety in a much larger population.

• Process:

• Participants: Thousands of volunteers (often over 30,000), including people from a wide range of demographics (e.g., elderly, people with underlying health conditions).

• Testing: This phase measured how well the vaccine protected against infection (or severe illness) and assessed side effects across a large group.

• Outcome:

• Efficacy: The mRNA vaccines showed high efficacy in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 (around 94-95% in early results for Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna).

• Safety: Serious side effects were rare, and the vaccines generally had side effects similar to those of other vaccines (e.g., soreness at the injection site, fatigue, mild fever).

• Duration: Typically lasted several months to a year.

 

5. Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) / Approval

• After Phase 3 trials, Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna submitted data to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and other regulatory bodies (e.g., the European Medicines Agency or EMA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

• Regulatory agencies conducted a thorough review of all data, including:

• Efficacy data showing that the vaccine effectively prevented severe COVID-19 illness.

• Safety data showing that the vaccines had a favorable risk-benefit profile.

• After the review, both vaccines were granted EUA by the FDA in December 2020, allowing them to be administered to the public while ongoing monitoring continued.

 

6. Post-Approval Monitoring (Phase 4)

• Objective: To continue monitoring the vaccine’s long-term safety and effectiveness in the general population.

• Process:

• Ongoing surveillance systems like the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and V-safe were used to monitor adverse events, including rare or long-term side effects.

• The EUA was later converted to full approval (for Pfizer-BioNTech in August 2021) based on continued safety and efficacy data.

 

Summary:

• Preclinical studies and clinical trials (Phases 1-3) assessed safety, immune response, and efficacy.

• The mRNA vaccines were subjected to more rigorous testing than some other vaccine types due to the novel technology, but they followed standard protocols used for any vaccine approval.

• Post-approval monitoring continues to ensure safety in the wider population.

 

Hardly......"not tested at all"

 

Yeah, I recall all your posts during those dark days. How wrong you were Tall John.

[gargamon]

5 hours ago, Highball said:

Read RFKJRs book. Audio on tpb.

Of course it's on audio. Most of his supporters can't read.

[rattlesnake]

3 minutes ago, gargamon said:

Of course it's on audio. Most of his supporters can't read.

 

That's over 70 million US people who can't read according to you. Do you think this is a relevant and/or serious comment to make?

 

Times have changed and you are now part of a minority.

[KhunHeineken]

9 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

Before mRNA vaccines, such as the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines, were approved for emergency or full use, they underwent several rigorous stages of testing to assess safety and efficacy. Here’s an outline of the process:

 

1. Preclinical Testing (Lab and Animal Studies)

• Objective: To assess the safety, immune response, and potential efficacy of the vaccine.

• Process:

• Animal studies: Typically conducted in mice, rats, and non-human primates to evaluate whether the vaccine induces the desired immune response and does not cause harmful effects.

• The mRNA technology used in the COVID-19 vaccines had been previously studied in labs for other diseases (e.g., Zika, flu, cancer), but the COVID-19 vaccines were tested in animals before moving to human trials.

• Outcome: Encouraging results were obtained in animals, showing that the mRNA vaccines were effective at generating an immune response.

 

2. Phase 1 Clinical Trials (Initial Human Trials)

• Objective: To evaluate the safety and dosage of the vaccine.

• Process:

• Participants: A small group (often 20-100) of healthy volunteers.

• Testing: The focus was on safety, the immune response, and determining the appropriate dosage for further trials.

• Outcomes: This phase helped identify any immediate, severe side effects (e.g., allergic reactions) and the optimal dose that induces a good immune response.

• Duration: Typically 1-2 months.

 

3. Phase 2 Clinical Trials (Expanded Human Trials)

• Objective: To further assess safety, side effects, and immune response in a larger group of participants.

• Process:

• Participants: Hundreds of volunteers, including those from various age groups and risk categories.

• Testing: Vaccine doses were refined, and participants were monitored for side effects, immune responses, and any potential efficacy signals.

• Outcomes: This phase confirmed the safety and immune response induced by the vaccine.

• Duration: Usually several months.

 

4. Phase 3 Clinical Trials (Large-Scale Human Trials)

• Objective: To assess the vaccine’s efficacy and safety in a much larger population.

• Process:

• Participants: Thousands of volunteers (often over 30,000), including people from a wide range of demographics (e.g., elderly, people with underlying health conditions).

• Testing: This phase measured how well the vaccine protected against infection (or severe illness) and assessed side effects across a large group.

• Outcome:

• Efficacy: The mRNA vaccines showed high efficacy in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 (around 94-95% in early results for Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna).

• Safety: Serious side effects were rare, and the vaccines generally had side effects similar to those of other vaccines (e.g., soreness at the injection site, fatigue, mild fever).

• Duration: Typically lasted several months to a year.

 

5. Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) / Approval

• After Phase 3 trials, Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna submitted data to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and other regulatory bodies (e.g., the European Medicines Agency or EMA) for Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).

• Regulatory agencies conducted a thorough review of all data, including:

• Efficacy data showing that the vaccine effectively prevented severe COVID-19 illness.

• Safety data showing that the vaccines had a favorable risk-benefit profile.

• After the review, both vaccines were granted EUA by the FDA in December 2020, allowing them to be administered to the public while ongoing monitoring continued.

 

6. Post-Approval Monitoring (Phase 4)

• Objective: To continue monitoring the vaccine’s long-term safety and effectiveness in the general population.

• Process:

• Ongoing surveillance systems like the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and V-safe were used to monitor adverse events, including rare or long-term side effects.

• The EUA was later converted to full approval (for Pfizer-BioNTech in August 2021) based on continued safety and efficacy data.

 

Summary:

• Preclinical studies and clinical trials (Phases 1-3) assessed safety, immune response, and efficacy.

• The mRNA vaccines were subjected to more rigorous testing than some other vaccine types due to the novel technology, but they followed standard protocols used for any vaccine approval.

• Post-approval monitoring continues to ensure safety in the wider population.

 

Hardly......"not tested at all"

Did you add up the time in all those phases?  It goes into the years, yet, MRNA vaccines were released for use on humans within 12 months. 

 

Studies for side effects take TIME.  Not all side effect reveal themselves in days, months, or even one year. 

 

I'm sure they did all the usual tests, but due to what was happening in the world, they didn't have the TIME to assess the vaccines for long term side effects. 

 

A prime example of this is Astra and the clotting, or do you deny Astra caused this side effect in many people? 

[papa al]

On 1/11/2025 at 4:39 PM, Hamus Yaigh said:

 

 

Pharma and government are trustworthy and we should do as they say.

[Patong2021]

17 hours ago, Airalee said:

Thanks 😊 

 

Wouldn’t you be better served in the health forum discussing one of your many ailments?

 

Reading this forum has got to be bad for your health.

And what is the point of pushing your political agenda? You are not convincing anyone with an education , not feeble minded and who  is not mentally ill.

[transam]

On 1/11/2025 at 3:38 PM, Red Phoenix said:

Shedding is real. We do NOT need to prove that shedding occurs. The FDA needs to require Pfizer and Moderna to do the studies to prove that shedding is NOT happening.

 

= = =

 

> Much more evidence and links to studies on this subject in Chapter 17 of James Roguski's Covid-19 Vaccine Resource Center

https://jamesroguski.substack.com/p/evidence-of-shedding

 

= = =

Not another Covid thread, is there some wrong with you.........

[Airalee]

10 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

And what is the point of pushing your political agenda? You are not convincing anyone with an education , not feeble minded and who  is not mentally ill.

My political agenda?  What’s political about pointing out that someone is constantly in the health forum talking about all their ailments?  Fat, old people should should do something about it.  Their 30 year younger wives would probably appreciate it.

 

We all know you’re a dishonest, lying leftist.  
 

Now go do some push-ups.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Airalee said:

My political agenda?  What’s political about pointing out that someone is constantly in the health forum talking about all their ailments?  Fat, old people should should do something about it.  Their 30 year younger wives would probably appreciate it.

 

We all know you’re a dishonest, lying leftist.  
 

Now go do some push-ups.

You don't live here then........🤭

[Airalee]

4 minutes ago, transam said:

You don't live here then........🤭

What does that have to do with people who have mullets and live in trailer parks?

 

 

[Lacessit]

6 hours ago, Highball said:

 

If by empathy you mean I am forced to wear an ineffective stupid mask and stay 2 3 meters away from everyone.. I have no empathy.

 

I don't call that empathy, I call it a psyop based on a lab manipulated govt vaccine.

The statistics on masks are as follows:

 

An infected person is 70% less likely to infect others if wearing a mask.

 

An uninfected person is 30% less likely to contract infection if wearing a mask.

 

I assume you won't mind if a surgeon operates on you with no mask.

 

The 2-3 metre rule is based on how far an infected person can project virus-laden sputum or snot by coughing or sneezing.