They love Trump, but many on the right loathe the Israel-Hamas ceasefire deal he demanded

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

 

I guess next you will tell us that on 6th October Israelis and Palestinians lived peaceful together with equal rights and all that.

Yeah, sure, and then suddenly those bad Palestinians had this idea to kill Israelis out of the blue and without any provocation... 

 

   Your guess is wrong , no I will not be telling you that .

BTW , Gazans are not Israeli citizens so of course they do not have the same rights as Israeli citizens 

[Social Media]

This topic is not about the historical conflict but is about the war "al aqsa flood" that was started by Hamas with their massacre and invasion of Israel on Oct 7th 2023. The topic is about the current ceasefire of that war with regards to Trump.

 

They love Trump, but many on the right loathe the Israel-Hamas ceasefire deal he demanded

[theblether]

So what is it? Is it Trump's deal or is it Biden's deal? 

 

It's Biden's deal, proposed long ago. 

 

Hezbollah got wrecked in Lebanon and Hamas panicked as they fantasised that Hezbollah could launch a counter-attack against Israel. As someone else put it, they realised that the cavalry wasn't coming. 

 

What a lot of fools fail to calculate is that Trump said - you better do a deal before!!! I take office. He wanted a deal under the Biden Presidency. 

 

No one is arguing that Trump's clarity wasn't useful. But it's still not his deal as what he demanded - the return of all hostages - is not happening. 

 

AFAIC Trump knows this deal is a mess but if 33 hostages are released tomorrow he'll be delighted. And the Israeli right will be drowned out by the celebration. But Trump still has his finger on the trigger. The rest of the hostages better be released rapidly or Hamas will discover that what happened to Hezbollah was only a foretaste of what is to come. 

[Cryingdick]

Hamas can't possibly release the hostages. If they do there is no reason not to kill all of them after that happens. As far as the prisoners being released go it actually works out. They can join Hamas and then Israel can kill all of them. No way does Hamas honor this, it would be their death warrant.

[still kicking]

38 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Hamas can't possibly release the hostages. If they do there is no reason not to kill all of them after that happens. As far as the prisoners being released go it actually works out. They can join Hamas and then Israel can kill all of them. No way does Hamas honor this, it would be their death warrant.

Sick 

[Cryingdick]

Just now, still kicking said:

Sick 

 

I didn't make the rules. 

[Nick Carter icp]

53 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Hamas can't possibly release the hostages. If they do there is no reason not to kill all of them after that happens. As far as the prisoners being released go it actually works out. They can join Hamas and then Israel can kill all of them. No way does Hamas honor this, it would be their death warrant.

 

   Israel will sign agreements and adhere to those agreements , as they have done previously 

[Cryingdick]

23 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Israel will sign agreements and adhere to those agreements , as they have done previously 

 

Hamas won't. It can't. It is a terrorist organization trying to find a future. There is no future for terrorist organizations. It is the same as any other hostage situation you try to get the hostages out and promise whatever it takes. As soon as the hostages are safe it's game over for the hostage taker. Suddenly they don't bring you water and sandwiches and you end up dead or in prison. Simple as that.

[Hawaiian]

8 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

But it is all about history, and not just recent history.

Some people pretend the war started in October 2023. That is simply wrong.

 

I don't know a good solution for the people who live there. Probably there is no good solution. Too many mistakes were made in the past.

What I find sad is that some people look only at the recent year(s) and ignore the history. That is just stupid. 

 

First you say, "Give the land back to the Palestinians."  Now you say, "Probably there is no good solution."