Undercover International police

[KhunHeineken]

17 hours ago, tjintx said:

 

Sorry, that were me.   I was a bit angry that morning as the bar didn't have four X to go with me brekkie, nor Marmite for me toast, nor Tim Tims for post-brekkie.

 

Oh, and you're no longer on our radar.

That would be "Tim Tams." 

 

If you are going to play the role of an undercover Aussie police officer, at least try to get the "lingo" right. 

[georgegeorgia]

I wonder if they do have Undercover International police in Pattaya namely Australian ,are they there to get Intel rather than arrest ?

A lot are talking about powers of arrest but are they there for that or to gather Intel 

 

 

[theblether]

2 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

The part you are clearly unaware of is there has to be a brief of evidence in existence, for which an arrest warrant is issued. 

 

I have just posted an simplistic example of a UK male being arrested in Thailand for a murder he committed in the UK. 

 

The UK don't sent police to Thailand to do the arrest. 

 

I did mention pedo's being arrested in their home country for crimes they have committed in other countries.  The Philippines is a popular choice for pedo's.  

 

New laws allow for the trial and conviction of an individual in their home country for sex crimes committed against children in another country.  Think about that for a moment.  The crime was not even committed in the country for which they were arrested, charged, brought before a court, convicted and sentenced.  Like I said, the evidence has to be overwhelming, such as a video of him committing the sex act with a child.

 

Jurisdiction dictates who can make the arrest.  It's not uncommon in big cases for a home country to send out the officer in charge of the case to brief local police before local police make the arrest.  The officer in charge can also be the escorting officer after extradition.   

 

If it's federal charges that have been broke, the federal police in the local embassy can be briefed, and they then liaise with a local police task force.  This happens a lot with large drug importations.  Customs of both countries are also involved. 

 

There was a famous case involving Australians in Bali.  It's been in the media again recently.  Two criminals were executed.  The criminals were dubbed "The Bali 9."  Police were made aware the group were going to be smuggling drugs, they informed the police in Indonesia / Bali, and they were arrested in Bali, by Indonesian police.  Australian Federal Police did not fly to Bali to do surveillance, and make the arrest.  

 

It was a somewhat a controversial case because the Australian Federal Police could have kept the intel to themselves, and arrested the group in Australia where there is no death penalty, and prison conditions were not as harsh, but they handed over the intel. 

 

This whole thing about police from various countries actively investigating in other countries all around the world is laughable.  

 

I can't be bothered. 

 

I said I shouldn't have got involved in this thread. 

[KhunHeineken]

55 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

I can't be bothered. 

 

I said I shouldn't have got involved in this thread. 

Thanks for playing. 

[KhunHeineken]

3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:

I wonder if they do have Undercover International police in Pattaya namely Australian ,are they there to get Intel rather than arrest ?

A lot are talking about powers of arrest but are they there for that or to gather Intel 

 

 

ASIO may be in Thailand, and other countries, depending on what / who they are investigating, and there are some federal police based in the Embassies, but they do not go out and investigate.  They liaise with local authorities when needed, and that goes both ways, for Aussies in Thailand, and Thai's in Australia.  

[phetphet]

16 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

I'll give you a very, very simplistic example.

 

Say someone murders someone in the UK and they know there is no way getting off it.  Maybe they got into a fight at their local pub and stabbed to death someone, in full view of many people who knew him. 

 

He races home, packs a bag, grabs his passport, and heads straight to the airport and flies to Thailand / Phuket. 

 

The UK police investigate the case and identify him soon after as being the murderer. 

 

Investigators discover, through immigration records, he has left the country.  Bank statements, air tickets, and telephone sim card data reveal he is in Thailand. 

 

The UK police arrange for an arrest warrant via Interpol and inform Thai police he may be in Thailand. 

 

The Thai police check their TM30's, but also may have some intel from the UK police that he has hit an ATM in Kata Beach Phuket a few times.  They will also see he is receiving calls from friends and family in the UK and those calls are going to Phuket Thailand.  

 

The Thai police see a TM30 for him at a hotel in Kata Beach Phuket.  The Thai police send in some undercover to sit off the hotel to make sure it's him. 

 

Satisfied it's him, they can raid his hotel room at 4am, or arrest him in a restaurant / bar, or while sun baking on the beach.

 

He'll be held in custody awaiting extradition.  The extradition will be granted.  The UK police will send one or two officers over to escort him back to the UK where he will face trail for murder.  

 

The above is a very simple example, but the UK police do not send undercover officers to Phuket / Thailand to arrest him.  

I agree. I already stated before that I was wrong, and that it was Thai law enforcement that followed him and made the arrest.