The Neo-Imperialist was Serious About Stealing Greenland

[MicroB]

1 hour ago, farang51 said:

Funny how the same people that kept talking about Trump as a peace president now support him when he wants to take over other countries. I guess the US now needs Lebensraum.

 

I think there are some people who will support whatever nonsense he says. He might come out tomorrow and say he's taking on a husband for himself and that he now wants to be referred to as Donella, and they'll express what a jolly good idea that is, and that they supported transgenderism all along.

 

There is a parallel with Vlad though. Putin is now looking at the world through the optics of the 1850s. This deranged lot want to do the same.

 

The one chink of light from all this is, ironically James Vance. I reckon he's playing a waiting game to invoke the 25th Amendment, and get the old fart carted out, just letting him hang himself through increasingly deranged statements, such as the latest one to clear out Gaza. Electioneering aside, Vance does have an interesting background. I quite like the investments he's made into fetal stem cell research for instance, marrying a Hindoo, liking a good curry. Bet his fans don't realise that. But he needs to lose the beard. Makes it look like he's hiding a double chin.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, MicroB said:

 

I think there are some people who will support whatever nonsense he says. He might come out tomorrow and say he's taking on a husband for himself and that he now wants to be referred to as Donella, and they'll express what a jolly good idea that is, and that they supported transgenderism all along.

 

There is a parallel with Vlad though. Putin is now looking at the world through the optics of the 1850s. This deranged lot want to do the same.

 

The one chink of light from all this is, ironically James Vance. I reckon he's playing a waiting game to invoke the 25th Amendment, and get the old fart carted out, just letting him hang himself through increasingly deranged statements, such as the latest one to clear out Gaza. Electioneering aside, Vance does have an interesting background. I quite like the investments he's made into fetal stem cell research for instance, marrying a Hindoo, liking a good curry. Bet his fans don't realise that. But he needs to lose the beard. Makes it look like he's hiding a double chin.

Trump derangement at its finest

[MicroB]

18 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

It was a bed Obama had slept in, and he was doing that while chugging bleach, praising nazis, grabbing a steering wheel and feeding fish too fast.

 

If your gonna peddle silly conspiracies you may as well go all in.

 

Was it so silly. Thus is the first Leader in history that the entire world knows what shape of penis he has. That beats any Presidental medical exam. Thought there is a Prime Minister who rogered a severed pigs head for a laugh.

 

You better hope it wasn't a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theories nearly always have an element of truth coupled around misunderstanding and outright mistruths. Eg there was concealed evidence about JFK's killing, COVID vaccines did cause harm. The Steele report claims to be based on 4 sources, none of whom knew who they were talking to. Of course, it might have been made up in Steele's kitchen, but unlikely. He runs a successful business based on corporate intelligence gathering, where there is an element of trust. Or Steele himself was a victim of a FSB misinformation campaign, which worked. A conspiracy theory would have been the whole world knowing for years that Trumpf was a collosal perve, but that wasn't the case.

 

Of course I know that Trumpf is a collosal pervert from his own lips (Billy Bush tape). Everything else; the groping, the paying of a pornography actress for sex, is just the gravy.

[scottiejohn]

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

I love it when Euros shout colonialism at others.

What about USA colonisation of others?

[Yagoda]

47 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

What about USA colonisation of others?

Im not complaining about it. Civilize the natives. You guys are the ones that play holier than thou with millions of dead left in your wake.

[Cameroni]

The US already has military bases in Greenland and de-facto control of Greenland.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy3y8l8nwlo

 

It's unlikely the US would need to invade formally. Trump could just impose massive tariffs on Danish and other European products, so Denmark would effectively give Trump an excuse to do what he wanted to do anyway, 

 

As Trump knows, a large number of Danish and EU companies have already started building factories in the US, precisely to pre-empt penalties as a result of massive US tariffs.

 

More jobs for Americans. Trump really is an utter genius.

[Cameroni]

11 hours ago, Yagoda said:

European countries are real good at beating up the Third World, not so much when they fight real armies. Does Denmark even have an Army? 

 

Mexico is a sovereign nation regardless. Greenland is like Alaska before we developed it.

 

Firstly Denmark is not a European "country". It's a non-country. A province of Northern Germany really. 

 

Denrmark is not a real country. Much like a Falabella pony is not really a horse.

 

It has no army to speak of and could resist America about as much Chanthaburi province.

 

America should just take Greenland outright.

[gearbox]

17 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

The US already has military bases in Greenland and de-facto control of Greenland.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy3y8l8nwlo

 

It's unlikely the US would need to invade formally. Trump could just impose massive tariffs on Danish and other European products, so Denmark would effectively give Trump an excuse to do what he wanted to do anyway, 

 

As Trump knows, a large number of Danish and EU companies have already started building factories in the US, precisely to pre-empt penalties as a result of massive US tariffs.

 

More jobs for Americans. Trump really is an utter genius.

Trading is voluntary transaction. It means that the buyer and seller are thinking of win win outcome. The reason of the large deficit of US with EU is that its own citizens are not willing to buy American garbage.

 

The world should run balanced trade with US, as it is only getting useless printed papers in exchange of real goods.

[Hawaiian]

23 minutes ago, gearbox said:

Trading is voluntary transaction. It means that the buyer and seller are thinking of win win outcome. The reason of the large deficit of US with EU is that its own citizens are not willing to buy American garbage.

 

The world should run balanced trade with US, as it is only getting useless printed papers in exchange of real goods.

And yet the USD remains the #1 reserve currency.

[Hawaiian]

32 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Firstly Denmark is not a European "country". It's a non-country. A province of Northern Germany really. 

 

Denrmark is not a real country. Much like a Falabella pony is not really a horse.

 

It has no army to speak of and could resist America about as much Chanthaburi province.

 

America should just take Greenland outright.

You sure have an odd definition of "country."  And the U.S. is not taking over any other country under Trump or any other president.

[Will B Good]

37 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Firstly Denmark is not a European "country". It's a non-country. A province of Northern Germany really. 

 

Denrmark is not a real country. Much like a Falabella pony is not really a horse.

 

It has no army to speak of and could resist America about as much Chanthaburi province.

 

America should just take Greenland outright.

 

Wow!!!

 

You mean a 'real' country must have an army and be able to bully other countries into doing as it commands?

 

Wow!!!

[perconrad]

15 hours ago, MicroB said:

 

 

I assume, from reading your many posts, that you identify as Anglo-Saxon. The peoples some Russians believe need to be cleansed from the earth (seriously, there is a whole ideology devoted to wiping out all British, Americans (yes, they are a bit colo(u)rblind), Australians and New Zealanders, because the world would be a better place without us. Putin is an adherant of this post-communist ideology (started by a Soviet dissident)).

 

So you are very enthusiastic about extending statehood, even before a vote, to a country where the majority are the Angles from the bit of the word Anglo-Saxon.

 

But you are notably less enthusiastic about honouring the majority wishes of Americans, who happen to be Hispanic, in Puerto Rico, who have voted for full statehood.

 

There is a word for that.

 

Lastly, you are either ignorant of geography and the demographics of the mostly blond haired people you want to be the New Americans, or you were poor at maths at school. You want the US government to pay each Greenlander $1 billion each, as a price worth paying.

 

There are 57,000 Greenlanders. So you need to find USD57,000,000,000,000. $57 trillion. The US government's budget is less than $7 trillion, and your lot think that's too much, hence the clapping like seals when Musk announces DOGE. But you are willing to increase that by 700% or so to get some rock and ice, on the off chance, provided we don't get a collapse in the Gulf Stream, you can strip mine it for the rare earth metals for the electric cars you don't want, needed as part of the action on climiate change that you don't believe in anyhow.

 

OK.

 

The $57 trillion accomodation at Nuuk is most welcoming.

 

 

What about the 17.000 Greenlanders living in Denmark, shall they not also have a billion US$ each?

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, gearbox said:

Trading is voluntary transaction. It means that the buyer and seller are thinking of win win outcome. The reason of the large deficit of US with EU is that its own citizens are not willing to buy American garbage.

 

The world should run balanced trade with US, as it is only getting useless printed papers in exchange of real goods.

 

Indeed the US has outsourced its menial tasks to other nations, for instance making cars. The Germans have to make the cars for the US, and they know they need the  US market. Without the  US market Mercedes, Porsche, BMW and Volkswagen would go bankrupt tomorrow. 

 

The US can do this because the rest of the world is financing its economy with loans. The US benefits from the trade deficits and European nations being addicted to US debt papers. Why Do Europeans buy American IOUs? Because of the interest rate that is guaranteed as America is the last rock solid economy on earth.

 

The power of the US economy is awesome in the truest sense of the word. Hence, Trump could just influence Denmark into doing whatever the US wants with tariffs.

[Cameroni]

36 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Wow!!!

 

You mean a 'real' country must have an army and be able to bully other countries into doing as it commands?

 

Wow!!!

 

No, what I am saying is that to be a European country, the territory in question has to be of a certain size and economic importance.

 

Denmark does not qualify. 

 

It is at best a quirky little Lego themepark, much like the Netherlands, Montenegro or Luxembourg. None of these are real countries.

 

They are historical accidents. Provinces that didn't make it.

[Cameroni]

44 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

You sure have an odd definition of "country."  And the U.S. is not taking over any other country under Trump or any other president.

 

Maybe not, like I said, Trump is being too soft. Talk about buying Greenland? Why? Just take it.

 

America already has a military base in Greenland.

 

Just enlarge it and make Greenland a defacto dependent state of the US. Denmark has nothing to say there anyway.

[Will B Good]

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

No, what I am saying is that to be a European country, the territory in question has to be of a certain size and economic importance.

 

Denmark does not qualify. 

 

It is at best a quirky little Lego themepark, much like the Netherlands, Montenegro or Luxembourg. None of these are real countries.

 

They are historical accidents. Provinces that didn't make it.

 

So none of these are a country (in your book)?

 

1. Andorra

2. Antigua and Barbuda

3. Bahrain

4. Barbados

5. Comoros

6. Dominica

7. Eswatini (Swaziland)

8. Fiji

9. Grenada

10. Kiribati

11. Liechtenstein

12. Luxembourg

13. Maldives

14. Malta

15. Marshall Islands

16. Micronesia (Federated States of)

17. Monaco

18. Nauru

19. Palau

20. Saint Kitts and Nevis

21. Saint Lucia

22. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

23. San Marino

24. Seychelles

25. Singapore

26. Tonga

27. Tuvalu

28. Vanuatu

29. Vatican City

[Cameroni]

4 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

So none of these are a country (in your book)?

 

1. Andorra

2. Antigua and Barbuda

3. Bahrain

4. Barbados

5. Comoros

6. Dominica

7. Eswatini (Swaziland)

8. Fiji

9. Grenada

10. Kiribati

11. Liechtenstein

12. Luxembourg

13. Maldives

14. Malta

15. Marshall Islands

16. Micronesia (Federated States of)

17. Monaco

18. Nauru

19. Palau

20. Saint Kitts and Nevis

21. Saint Lucia

22. Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

23. San Marino

24. Seychelles

25. Singapore

26. Tonga

27. Tuvalu

28. Vanuatu

29. Vatican City

You forgot Cayman Islands, also a non-country. But basically yes, none of these are European countries.

 

Examples of European countries would include:

 

France

Germany

Spain

Italy

 

[GammaGlobulin]

On 1/25/2025 at 10:53 PM, Walker88 said:

I wouldn't blame nations who might decide to ban entry to Americans, and send any American home who is currently resident.

 

I would neither blame them nor care if they did?

All the other nations are free to ban Americans.....IF....

America can ban the illegal immigrants from all Nations, and if they will pay to come and get their wayward citizens who have washed up on America's shores, during the past 50 years.

 

I am FOR it!!!!!

 

Then, I can return home and live in my own country....

In peace.

 

[scottiejohn]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Firstly Denmark is not a European "country". It's a non-country. A province of Northern Germany really. 

 

Denrmark is not a real country. Much like a Falabella pony is not really a horse.

 

It has no army to speak of and could resist America about as much Chanthaburi province.

 

America should just take Greenland outright.

Under your theory what does that make the present day USA?

[Hawaiian]

29 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Indeed the US has outsourced its menial tasks to other nations, for instance making cars. The Germans have to make the cars for the US, and they know they need the  US market. Without the  US market Mercedes, Porsche, BMW and Volkswagen would go bankrupt tomorrow. 

 

The US can do this because the rest of the world is financing its economy with loans. The US benefits from the trade deficits and European nations being addicted to US debt papers. Why Do Europeans buy American IOUs? Because of the interest rate that is guaranteed as America is the last rock solid economy on earth.

 

The power of the US economy is awesome in the truest sense of the word. Hence, Trump could just influence Denmark into doing whatever the US wants with tariffs.

Why is making cars a menial task? 

[Cameroni]

1 minute ago, scottiejohn said:

Under your theory what does that make the present day USA?

 

A late comer, admittedly, and culturally somewhat deficient, however, one could hardly doubt the economic and military importance, size or influence of the USA. The USA is a real country.

 

The same does not apply to Denmark, Montenegro or Luxembourg.

[Cameroni]

Just now, Hawaiian said:

Why is making cars a menial task? 

 

It's just a way to get around. It's hardly space exploration, is it? 

 

It's basically the equivalent to making horse carriages in 1810.

[Hawaiian]

14 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It's just a way to get around. It's hardly space exploration, is it? 

 

It's basically the equivalent to making horse carriages in 1810.

That doesn't make it a menial job.  Look up the definition of "menial."

[scottiejohn]

22 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

A late comer, admittedly, and culturally somewhat deficient, however, one could hardly doubt the economic and military importance, size or influence of the USA. The USA is a real country.

 

The same does not apply to Denmark, Montenegro or Luxembourg.

Why does it not apply to the USA?

[GammaGlobulin]

On 1/25/2025 at 10:53 PM, Walker88 said:

Somebody tell the bone spurs coward that it’s 2025, and the days of Imperialism are long since dead.

 

If he does try to send US troops to steal the island, one should not be surprised if Putin decides to take back Alaska. Certainly, Putin has more claim to Alaska than the US has to Greenland. Until “Seward’s Folly”, Alaska was a part of Russia, and the State is certainly closer to Russia than it is to the continental US. Plus, Denmark has held Greenland for almost 500 years longer than the US held Alaska. Putin could re-rename Denali something like Dzerzhinsky Peak or Mt Beria.

 

Glad you mentioned this number 500.

So then, I ask you:

 

What has Denmark done for Greenland after 500 years of occupation?

Basically, nothing.

 

They do not care to develop the place, yet they get angry when Trump is so generously offering to bear the burden, spend the money, and bring Greenland into the 21st century, replete with a much higher standard of living, far better food, and ....most importantly....

 

Lower prices for goods imported from the USA.

 

Name me just one Greenlander who would not wish to see this happen, before the year 2025 is out.

 

Once the USA buys Greenland, Greenland will become a tourist magnet for most citizens living on Mainland America.

 

Do not fear change!
Chang is good.

 

 

 

 

[Will B Good]

1 minute ago, GammaGlobulin said:

 

Glad you mentioned this number 500.

So then, I ask you:

 

What has Denmark done for Greenland after 500 years of occupation?

Basically, nothing.

 

They do not care to develop the place, yet they get angry when Trump is so generously offering to bear the burden, spend the money, and bring Greenland into the 21st century, replete with a much higher standard of living, far better food, and ....most importantly....

 

Lower prices for goods imported from the USA.

 

Name me just one Greenlander who would not wish to see this happen, before the year 2025 is out.

 

Once the USA buys Greenland, Greenland will become a tourist magnet for most citizens living on Mainland America.

 

Do not fear change!
Chang is good.

 

 

 

 

 

Prefer Singha

[GammaGlobulin]

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

Prefer Singha

 

Yes!

 

[Cameroni]

27 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

Why does it not apply to the USA?

 

Because by size alone the US is a real country, add in the economic and military influence, there can be doubt that the US is a significant country.

 

The same does not apply to Denmark.

[scottiejohn]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Because by size alone the US is a real country, add in the economic and military influence, there can be doubt that the US is a significant country.

 

The same does not apply to Denmark.

They are NOT the reasons you use to claim that Denmark is NOT a country!

According to Country Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

a political state or nation or its territory

[Cameroni]

44 minutes ago, scottiejohn said:

They are NOT the reasons you use to claim that Denmark is NOT a country!

According to Country Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

a political state or nation or its territory

 

Yes it was.

 

Yah, we pretend Denmark, Luxembourg, Cayman Islands or Netherlands are countries on paper, but we all know they are not. Just tiny, insignificant provinces that failed to become real countries.

 

It's best to ignore them really.