USAID: The Big Exposure Reveals...

[candide]

7 minutes ago, mogandave said:

So you do not know, which means you were lying when you said they did not receive billions. 

 

 

It'sbTrump who made an unsubstantiated claim. Trump was lying. It has been contradicted by facts from a reliable source. 

 

If you want to contradict this source  you need to come up with facts from a reliable source, and not by deflecting with unsubstantiated hypotheses. 

[mogandave]

57 minutes ago, candide said:

It'sbTrump who made an unsubstantiated claim. Trump was lying. It has been contradicted by facts from a reliable source. 

 

If you want to contradict this source  you need to come up with facts from a reliable source, and not by deflecting with unsubstantiated hypotheses. 

You don’t know how much they got, so you are lying when claim Trump is lying.

[candide]

Just now, mogandave said:

You don’t know how much they got, so you are lying when claim Trump is lying.

Actually you have a point as Trump did not specify how many billion and how many years.

 

So this part of Trump's message is unsubstantiated. It is extravagant, but only if one considers a short period of time (such as a single Presidential mandate). However, depending of how many billion are considered and how many years, it's not impossible.

 

This other claim  that the money was stolen, is a lie.

[mogandave]

Just now, candide said:

Actually you have a point as Trump did not specify how many billion and how many years.

 

So this part of Trump's message is unsubstantiated. It is extravagant, but only if one considers a short period of time (such as a single Presidential mandate). However, depending of how many billion are considered and how many years, it's not impossible.

 

This other claim  that the money was stolen, is a lie.

Saying it’s stolen is just everyday Trump rhetoric. He says Canada is stealing from us, which is ridiculous.

 

What Trump says should be taken seriously, but not literally.

[mogandave]

Regardless of what it was for, they were given the money. 

[illisdean]

 

 

How about a little ole "large scale social deception",  about $9M worth.

 

"DOGE investigations reveal mysterious Defense Department payments to Reuters for "large scale social deception" 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

More lies! 

 

Witness at First DOGE Hearing Confronts Lawmakers with Scale of Covid Fraud: ‘They Stole $1 Trillion’

[candide]

3 hours ago, illisdean said:

 

 

How about a little ole "large scale social deception",  about $9M worth.

 

"DOGE investigations reveal mysterious Defense Department payments to Reuters for "large scale social deception" 

 

 

Another example of Biden's administration's fraud!

 

Oh wait! It started in 2018, so it was the Trump administration! 🤣!

 

And nothing "mysterious" about it. It's on usaspending.com, just like the other MAGA fake scandals!

 

https://www.usaspending.gov/award/CONT_AWD_FA865018C7886_9700_-NONE-_-NONE-

 

And that's the subject of the contract:

 

ACTIVE SOCIAL ENGINEERING DEFENSE (ASED) LARGE SCALE SOCIAL DECEPTION (LSD)

 

North American Industry Classification System (NAICS)Code

54 : Professional, Scientific, and Technical Services

5417: Scientific Research and Development Services

541715: Research and Development in the Physical, Engineering, and Life Sciences (except Nanotechnology and Biotechnology)

Product or Service Code(PSC)

RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT

AC: C – National Defense R&D Services

AC62: R&D- DEFENSE SYSTEM: ELECTRONICS/COMMUNICATION EQUIPMENT (APPLIED RESEARCH/EXPLORATORY DEVELOPMENT)

 

What is social engineering Defense?

 

“The Active Social Engineering Defense (ASED) program aims to develop the core technology to enable the capability to automatically identify, disrupt, and investigate social engineering attacks. If successful, the ASED technology will do this by actively detecting attacks, intervening in communications between users and potential attackers, and coordinating investigations into the source of the attacks,” said the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA).

https://www.klzradio.com/2025/02/07/u-s-military-under-scrutiny-over-9-million-payment-to-reuters-news-agency-worthy-news-investigation/

 

No wonder Musk did not show the full contract and only a part of it for the gullible MAGAs! 🙂

 

[candide]

3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

More lies! 

 

Witness at First DOGE Hearing Confronts Lawmakers with Scale of Covid Fraud: ‘They Stole $1 Trillion’

I wonder which President launched these tainted by fraud programs

Oh wait! 🤣

 

Most of the looted money was swiped from three large pandemic-relief initiatives launched during the Trump administration and inherited by President Joe Biden. Those programs were designed to help small businesses and unemployed workers survive the economic upheaval caused by the pandemic.

https://apnews.com/article/pandemic-fraud-waste-billions-small-business-labor-fb1d9a9eb24857efbe4611344311ae78

[Yellowtail]

6 minutes ago, candide said:

I wonder which President launched these tainted by fraud programs

Oh wait! 🤣

 

Most of the looted money was swiped from three large pandemic-relief initiatives launched during the Trump administration and inherited by President Joe Biden. Those programs were designed to help small businesses and unemployed workers survive the economic upheaval caused by the pandemic.

https://apnews.com/article/pandemic-fraud-waste-billions-small-business-labor-fb1d9a9eb24857efbe4611344311ae78

What is your point? Do you support rooting it out and shutting it down or not? 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

11 minutes ago, candide said:

I wonder which President launched these tainted by fraud programs

Oh wait! 🤣

 

Most of the looted money was swiped from three large pandemic-relief initiatives launched during the Trump administration and inherited by President Joe Biden. Those programs were designed to help small businesses and unemployed workers survive the economic upheaval caused by the pandemic.

https://apnews.com/article/pandemic-fraud-waste-billions-small-business-labor-fb1d9a9eb24857efbe4611344311ae78

It is interesting that the article you linked to is dated June, 2023 and nothing seems to have been done about it until now. 

 

Why do you suppose that is? 

[candide]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What is your point? Do you support rooting it out and shutting it down or not? 

 

 

Are these Covid programs still active? I doubt it.

[Yellowtail]

Just now, candide said:

Are these Covid programs still active? I doubt it.

So just forget about it? 

 

I think we should find out where the money went, how it went and how to keep it from happening again. 

 

Might be possible to claw some back and prosecute some people. 

[candide]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It is interesting that the article you linked to is dated June, 2023 and nothing seems to have been done about it until now. 

 

Why do you suppose that is? 

Why should I suppose that nothing has been done? 😆

 

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-results-nationwide-covid-19-fraud-enforcement-action

[candide]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

Why should I suppose that nothing has been done? 😆

 

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-results-nationwide-covid-19-fraud-enforcement-action

 

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So just forget about it? 

 

I think we should find out where the money went, how it went and how to keep it from happening again. 

 

Might be possible to claw some back and prosecute some people. 

Replied already! You are continuously making unsubstantiated assumptions!

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, candide said:

Why should I suppose that nothing has been done? 😆

 

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-results-nationwide-covid-19-fraud-enforcement-action

So $1.4B out of $403B, nice!