Clarence Thomas v District Judges

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

What makes your comment particularly moronic is that the piece of the article I used includes a direct quote from the lawsuit. Or you so clueless as to claim that the BBC is making that up, too?

A direct quote from a brief by one side does not equal a statement of the law of the case. Sorry you dont know how the Courts work in the USA

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Just now, Yagoda said:

You want to brief the issue then? Lets go. You are the propenent of the proposition, show us the cases, like an American lawyer would. 

 

You do know what the issue is, right?

You questioned whether or not the evidence I cited from the BBC  was valid.  It is. I cited that evidence to refute theblether's claim that the judges ruling was just about employment issues. Stop trying to deflect. You've got nothing. 

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You questioned whether or not the evidence I cited from the BBC  was valid.  It is. I cited that evidence to refute theblether's claim that the judges ruling was just about employment issues. Stop trying to deflect. You've got nothing. 

Guess that means you are too scared to debate US law with a real US citizen. 

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1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Guess that means you are too scared to debate US law with a real US citizen. 

The only way your claim to American citizenship makes sense, is if there's a positive correlation between US citizenship and ignorance of American laws and politics. But if you've got evidence to offer to support your position, go ahead and do so. You've got nothing.

[gargamon]

14 hours ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Because he is looking after America 1st, returning freedom and accountability for corrupt govt entities? I really dont think AH had those goals, did he? 

AH had precisely those goals, but for Germans. Not very knowledgeable about history, are you?

[Yagoda]

2 minutes ago, placeholder said:

The only way your claim to American citizenship makes sense, is if there's a positive correlation between US citizenship and ignorance of American laws and politics. But if you've got evidence to offer to support your position, go ahead and do so. You've got nothing.

IM not the proponent of any thing here, your post made a claim and you cant support it. Just so you know, the way it works would be:

 

Assertion: You make a claim

Facts: You support the claim

Law: that supports your claim.

 

You just puke out whatever lefty source google gives you first.  Try reading some law or at least, both briefs submitted by the parties.

 

You may want to study Myers vs US, 272 US 52 (1926). 

[Yagoda]

8 minutes ago, gargamon said:

AH had precisely those goals, but for Germans. Not very knowledgeable about history, are you?

His goals were Socialist, hence: National Socialism. Far more comparable to todays Democratic Party.

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2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

IM not the proponent of any thing here, your post made a claim and you cant support it. Just so you know, the way it works would be:

 

Assertion: You make a claim

Facts: You support the claim

Law: that supports your claim.

 

You just puke out whatever lefty source google gives you first.  Try reading some law or at least, both briefs submitted by the parties.

 

You may want to study Myers vs US, 272 US 52 (1926). 

I wonder what garbage dump of a website you got that piece of case law from. Myers is about the right of the President to remove appointed officials. That is not the issue in the USAID case. Clearly, you don't have a clue what constitutes relevant case law.

[Yagoda]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

I wonder what garbage dump of a website you got that piece of case law from. Myers is about the right of the President to remove appointed officials. That is not the issue in the USAID case. Clearly, you don't have a clue what constitutes relevant case law.

Wow you read fast, sarcasm intended. 

 

Guess you didnt Shepardize. Dont forget the footnotes.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Wow you read fast, sarcasm intended. 

 

Guess you didnt Shepardize. Dont forget the footnotes.

 

 

I'm going to devotemy time to reading a decision based on your assertion that it supports your case? Why should I trust you? If you have evidence from that decision to offer, offer it.

[Yagoda]

10 minutes ago, placeholder said:

I'm going to devotemy time to reading a decision based on your assertion that it supports your case? Why should I trust you? If you have evidence from that decision to offer, offer it.

Translation: I read slow and dont know how to Shepardize.

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1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

Translation: I read slow and dont know how to Shepardize.

Another rightwing mindreading act. You've got nothing.

[Yagoda]

Just now, placeholder said:

Another rightwing mindreading act. You've got nothing.

Nothing is always far more than you have. Bet you think there is illegal alien birthright citizenship too?

[gamb00ler]

14 hours ago, theblether said:

 

Those convictions will.never survive an appeal. No chance. 

Given your lack of judicial judgement and education you must be angling for a spot on Trump's legal team.

[theblether]

^^nonsensical. Worthless. 

 

Anyway, X is boiling over. It hasn't occurred to the left that the White House wants this issue to go to SCOTUS. As one guy says here - district judges are not Kings. 

 

I have no problem with district court judges ruling against the executive and the issue being expedited to their circuit appeals court, who can then impose an injunction. 

 

Alternatively just do what Biden did, ignore the courts. You didn't hear the moronic left complain about that when the courts ruled against Biden re student debt. 

 

Goose, gander and all that. 

 

 

[GroveHillWanderer]

On 2/10/2025 at 6:46 PM, SunnyinBangrak said:

That, my friend, was a long expired misdemeanor. BBC should have done their homework instead of trotting out a silly democrat narrative. 

Truth is, nobody knows what his felony conviction was for. And due to DJT not knowing what crime he was being tried for, had no way to prepare a defence. Real kangaroo court justice to please simple minds and the liberal hivemind.

 

On 2/10/2025 at 6:51 PM, impulse said:

Those are misdemeanors, for which the statute of limitations had already expired. 

 

If you even count money that was paid to an attorney being recorded as a legal expense as a crime at all.

 

Try again.  Use small words so we simpletons can understand.

 

Incorrect. Falsifying business records may be a misdemeanor but falsifying business records in the first degree is a felony. And the statute of limitations for these offences had clearly not expired, otherwise he couldn't have been found guilty of them.

 

I'm not sure whether you were not paying attention when he was found guilty or didn't read any of the many articles that reported on the verdict being read out in court, but here's just one, as an example. 

 

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"How say you to the first count of the indictment, charging Donald J. Trump with the crime of falsifying business records in the first degree, guilty or not guilty?" the clerk asked.

 

"Guilty," the foreperson responded, repeating the answer 33 more times.

 

What was Trump convicted of?

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-charges-conviction-guilty-verdict/

 

Just to confirm that these were felony offences, see the extracts below from a legal article explaining the statute.

 

NY Penal Law § 170.10: Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree

 

https://criminaldefense.1800nynylaw.com/ny-penal-law-170-10-falsifying-business-records-in-first-degree.html

 

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A person is guilty of falsifying business records in the first degree when he commits the crime of falsifying business records in the second degree, and when his intent to defraud includes an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.

[....]

Falsifying business records in the first degree is a class E felony.