Simple question (for this idiot) about Non-O marriage multi entry

[2long]

I asked the same question last year but never got a clear answer.

 

I would like a non-o based on marriage, and am more than happy to leave the country. The multi-entry non-o sounds ideal. 

 

My question is, 'Can I leave the country more often than once every 3 months/90 days?' because I'm often in and out and prefer not to be restricted in dates.

 

If I can do as I ask (leave every 3 months or less) how does that affect the period of validity of the visa itself? 12 months is fine, 15 months better, but less than 12 months would be a pain.

 

Another option is the DTV, which is my preference, but I need a back-up plan.

 

Thanks in advance.

[DrJack54]

34 minutes ago, 2long said:

Can I leave the country more often than once every 3 months/90 days?' because I'm often in and out and prefer not to be restricted in dates.

You can exit and reenter as often as you wish.

Each entry you will be stamped in for 90 days.

The visa upon issue is valid for one year.

It will have a "valid till" date.

By exiting and reenter just prior to expiry you would receive another 90 days.

Hence it is possible to obtain almost 15 months from this visa.

Note: for the "extra" 90 days after expiry of the visa you would need to buy a reentry permit to exit and reenter. 

 

Where would you obtain a ME Non O marriage? 

[2long]

Thanks Jack,

That's perfect. I was thinking HCMC would be the best / easiest place.

 

Ideally I want a DTV, but I'm not sure if I can convince them. I own 50% of a UK company that requires me to work online, ideally in this time zone.

[DrJack54]

16 minutes ago, 2long said:

I was thinking HCMC would be the best / easiest place.

Just check threads re success with ME Non O marriage in Vietnam recently.

As you are aware it's all via eVisa now. So you apply once in Vietnam.

16 minutes ago, 2long said:

Ideally I want a DTV, but I'm not sure if I can convince them

Ran into young UK guy who just entered with a DTV (online work) 

It was processed VERY quickly.

In his case it wasn't smoke and mirrors, he actually has a UK employer and actually does his work online. Perfect.

 

Personally not a fan of soft power options however in your shoes definitely a good option with qualifying for the online work. 

 

Note: in attached thread read first post from @Tod Daniels

I haven't seen any recent reports of a ME Non O 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1334937-is-a-one-year-multi-entry-marriage-visa-still-available-from-hcmc/

[Upnotover]

I think multi entry non O's disappeared when they went over to the e-visa system.

[2long]

However, if I end up with a single entry, I presume a re-entry permit will fix that, will it?

 

And does the 400k have to be seasoned if applying (first application) in HCMC?

 

Thanks again

[Tod Daniels]

 

1 minute ago, 2long said:

However, if I end up with a single entry, I presume a re-entry permit will fix that, will it?

 

And does the 400k have to be seasoned if applying (first application) in HCMC?

 

Thanks again

Sadly for you a re-entry permit will not do a thing 😞
All a re-entry permit would do on a single entry 90 day Non-O visa is give you the ability to exit/re-enter DURING that 90 days and get stamped in for the same expiration date <- it does NOT add time to that 90 day stamp. re-entry permit or not you're done after 90 days 😮 

Since all the consulates switched over to the eVisa online web-portal the year-long, multi-entry Non-O visa (for marriage, retirement) was discontinued 

The funds to get the single entry Non-O visa DO NOT need to be seasoned (and can indeed be in a bank account in your country).

Unless you're going to meet the requirements to get the year extension inside the country once that 90 days runs down, (by having 400k baht in a thai bank account in your name only for 2 months) about all you can get from that 90 day Non-O would be a "visit thai family" extension at the immigration office where you live for 60 days <- that doesn't require proof of funds

Then when that runs down you'd go buy another 90 day Non-O single entry again. (OR you'd meet the requirements and get the year extension in country)

 

[2long]

So, how does one go about getting a Non-O spouse visa that enables trips abroad during the year?

 

Is it a case of single entry (90 day), having to stay here and keep cash in the bank for those 90 days, and then applying for an extension?

 

Sorry for appearing thick on this topic. Although I have been here 25 years, I was on a WP until a year ago.

[Tod Daniels]

5 minutes ago, 2long said:

So, how does one go about getting a Non-O spouse visa that enables trips abroad during the year?

 

Is it a case of single entry (90 day), having to stay here and keep cash in the bank for those 90 days, and then applying for an extension?

• You get the 90 day Non-O visa from a thai consulate nearby
• You get 400K baht in a thai bank account in your name only, let it "season" for 2 months 
• when you have 30 days or less left on that 90 day stamp you apply for a year extension based on marriage by showing the proof of funds and a pile of paperwork, photos, map, marriage certificates, etc, for 1900baht at the immigration office, 
• you will get a 30 day under consideration stamp (in bangkok it's just a 21 day u/c stamp) 
• you go back on that date and get the year extension inked in 

THEN

• you buy a multiple re-entry permit (3800baht) that lets you exit/re-enter the whole year and get stamped in until the end of your extension each time you re-enter 

[2long]

16 minutes ago, Tod Daniels said:

• You get the 90 day Non-O visa from a thai consulate nearby
• You get 400K baht in a thai bank account in your name only, let it "season" for 2 months 
• when you have 30 days or less left on that 90 day stamp you apply for a year extension based on marriage by showing the proof of funds and a pile of paperwork, photos, map, marriage certificates, etc, for 1900baht at the immigration office, 
• you will get a 30 day under consideration stamp (in bangkok it's just a 21 day u/c stamp) 
• you go back on that date and get the year extension inked in 

THEN

• you buy a multiple re-entry permit (3800baht) that lets you exit/re-enter the whole year and get stamped in until the end of your extension each time you re-enter 

Thank you!

[DrJack54]

4 hours ago, 2long said:

Thank you!

You have correct advice from Tod.

Keep in mind that if for some reason you do not obtain the non O eVisa (abroad) ...You can enter Thailand visa exempt and obtain the Non O at local immigration.

However this would involve under consideration period for the Non O application and again for the 12 month extension 

[DrJack54]

Off topic post removed. 

[Jack1988]

Hundred times better a DT visa. I would avoid marriage visa

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, Jack1988 said:

Hundred times better a DT visa. I would avoid marriage visa

The OP specifically started thread re Visa based on marriage.

DTV as  an alternative was posted earlier in thread. 

 

[xn47140]

13 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

You can enter Thailand visa exempt and obtain the Non O at local immigration.

I was not aware, that this is possible. Do you have a link where I can check which documents are needed (based on marriage at Pathum Thani Immigration)? Thanks so much.

[Upnotover]

12 minutes ago, xn47140 said:

I was not aware, that this is possible. Do you have a link where I can check which documents are needed (based on marriage at Pathum Thani Immigration)? Thanks so much.

You can start reading this thread.  Doubtful your specific IO will be much different.

 

[DrJack54]

28 minutes ago, xn47140 said:

I was not aware, that this is possible.

Do you have a Thai bank account in your name only? 

 

Here is another thread that outlines the process..

https://aseannow.com/topic/1342849-tourist-visa-exempt-then-apply-for-non-o-based-on-marriage/

[jojothai]

3 hours ago, xn47140 said:

I was not aware, that this is possible. Do you have a link where I can check which documents are needed (based on marriage at Pathum Thani Immigration)? Thanks so much.

All please note that DrJack 54 is correct. I have recently checked with Hua hin and Chaeng Wattana.
With all the evisa changes, you would likely need to stay outside at least a week to get the non-o. It must be easier to just get the visa exempt reentry and then apply for the 90 day non-o here.
Checklists attached from January. From Chaeng Wattana and Hua Hin immigration.

Please note that you even if you have a Khor ror 22, with overseas marriage certificate some immigration offices may still require a foreign marriage certificate legalised in your home country and then stamped by the thai embassy in your home country. There has been a report of this recently, where the OP had been ok for years, but then suddenly they now want this on the foreign certificate. 
I got Chaeng Wattana to check my documents for the non-o when i was in Bangkok recently, and they said ok with the Khor ror 22 and marriage certificate not yet certified (but with a Thai translation).
The hua hin list states in item 3 " certified from the embassy". I have yet not checked with them what this precisely means., but will find out when i return in a few weeks. I can get it certified on Uk trip in may if needed, so its not a problem for me if Hua Hin initially do not accept it.

[jojothai]

1 minute ago, jojothai said:

All please note that DrJack 54 is correct. I have recently checked with Hua hin and Chaeng Wattana.
Checklists attached from January. From Chaeng Wattana and Hua Hin immigration.

 

Please also note that if you have been working in Thailand and do not have the 400,000 baht in bank deposited  from overseas, then you can provide evidence of earnings in the last tax year by providing your tax certificate and tax return with copy of the receipt From TRD.
You still need to have the funds required in the bank and for the periods required.

[kiwikeith]

On 2/17/2025 at 5:13 PM, DrJack54 said:

You can exit and reenter as often as you wish.

Each entry you will be stamped in for 90 days.

The visa upon issue is valid for one year.

It will have a "valid till" date.

By exiting and reenter just prior to expiry you would receive another 90 days.

Hence it is possible to obtain almost 15 months from this visa.

Note: for the "extra" 90 days after expiry of the visa you would need to buy a reentry permit to exit and reenter. 

 

Where would you obtain a ME Non O marriage? 

Immigration give you the option 1000Bhat single entry and have to get re entry permits or multiple entry 1500 Thai Bhat got mine today.

[DrJack54]

3 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

Immigration give you the option 1000Bhat single entry and have to get re entry permits or multiple entry 1500 Thai Bhat got mine today.

A single reentry permit is 1000b

A multiple reentry permit is 3800k

[kiwikeith]

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

A single reentry permit is 1000b

A multiple reentry permit is 3800k

I was talking about the Non O 12 month ext. stamp you can get a multiple for 1500or single for 1000 , your right I bought a single reentry for 1000 so I can go home and come back in a few weeks time.

[DrJack54]

17 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

I was talking about the Non O 12 month ext. stamp you can get a multiple for 1500or single for 1000 , your right I bought a single reentry for 1000 so I can go home and come back in a few weeks time.

The 12 month extension is an extension to your permission of stay.

If you wish to exit Thailand and reenter then you need to purchase a reentry permit to "protect" that permission of stay.

A single reentry is 1000b a multi is 3800b 

 

[xn47140]

5 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Do you have a Thai bank account in your name only? 

 

Here is another thread that outlines the process..

https://aseannow.com/topic/1342849-tourist-visa-exempt-then-apply-for-non-o-based-on-marriage/

 Yes, I have....

My 60 day extension based on a NON-A single entry marriage E-Visa ends early April. As I'm not keen on doing the work for the 1 Year extension I will leave Thailand and come back with the visa exemption.

The plan was to do the 30 day extension and if possible at Pathum Thani another 60 days for married to a Thai spouse.

To apply at some point instead for a NON-O Visa at Pathum Thani seems now like an alternative (depends also on when I need to go back to Germany for some time).  A pity that the multi-entry Visa is not available anymore. Thanks so much for your help!

[DrJack54]

5 minutes ago, xn47140 said:

.  A pity that the multi-entry Visa is not available anymore

Indeed. It suited many. Example roster workers etc 

For ongoing living in Thailand even if eg only 6 months in total, I still see a Non O marriage and subsequent extensions+ reentry permit as good option.

One would need to be aware of under consideration period and plan their stays in Thailand according.