British Man Arrested in Thailand After 25-Year Visa Overstay

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

However he might get a pension upgrade. Unfrozen then.🤗

No such thing as a pension upgrade to a pension he's not receiving.

[Harrisfan]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He hasn't saved on IDC detention, court fines and airline ticket costs for deportation.

He might have bought 10,000 bitcoin with fees saved. 

[Liverpool Lou]

4 hours ago, WDSmart said:

deported back to the UK, where he might be subject to additional penalties, such as losing his passport or even worse. 

There's no penalty for losing a passport, neither does having an expired passport mean that a renewal would be denied.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Samh said:

Of course state pension is a DWP administered benefit so anybody in receipt of state benefit can quite legitimally be paid while not in the UK.

State benefits cannot be paid to non-UK residents.  State pension is not a benefit,

[newbee2022]

8 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No such thing as a pension upgrade to a pension he's not receiving.

How you know that he gets no pension? Do you know him? Are you his partner?? I didn't know that.

[Harsh Jones]

It doesn't sound like there was much of a method to this guy's madness

 

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Officers checked during the operation on areas regularly frequented by foreigners and found the Briton, who failed to show his passport.

 

The cops just went to a place frequented by farangs and there he was. That's a lesson for those who want to break his record. Don't go to the farang dives. 

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Samh said:

You do realise that the UK now has the legal right to look at you bank account... 

Only if there are grounds for suspecting that benefit fraud had been committed.

[oldestswinger]

20 hours ago, GammaGlobulin said:

How much will the fine be?

Or, does he just pay the usual maximum, which is quite low.

He'll probably get a discount as a valued customer.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 Everyone in the U.K has... a bank account .

Really?

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Many banks in the UK are now closing down because most people do their banking online 

Really?  Which are the "many" UK banks that have "closed down" recently?

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Not so simple supporting himself legitimately in those circumstances, though.

Although it does now seem that his family in the UK was supporting him.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

Could he not simply be receiving his pension or living on overseas assets ??

No, he's only 60 but, as a previous post linked, he was getting support from the UK.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Harrisfan said:

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

What's "a Spam"?

Fake ham

No, that would be "Spam", not "a Spam".   Spam, the canned meat, is real ham and pork.

[Samh]

29 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No such thing as a pension upgrade to a pension he's not receiving.

I assume very unlikely in this case but UK overseas workers can make voluntary contributions to obtain a UK state pension.

[richard_smith237]

9 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

3 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Many banks in the UK are now closing down because most people do their banking online 

Really?  Which are the "many" UK banks that have "closed down" recently?

 

He means the 'actual physical branches' themselves are closing down not the 'establishment / business' itself....    and a lot of them are doing so.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Dont confuse me said:

he may have an income/pension from UK, 

How does a state pension work at age 60?

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   He should have been arrested though because he committed arrestable offenses 

He has been!

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:

IF he has family here that he is supporting... this would be a very humane manner in which to deal with this.

His UK family may continue to support them.   As a Non-Thai resident the humanity aspect is something that he should have considered years ago, it is not the Thai authorities responsibility...imagine the chaos if that were the case - have a child and get to stay visa-free.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, Burma Bill said:

Any 90 day reports?

No requirement for him to do them.

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, MikeandDow said:

If he is supporting a wife and family and has to go back to the uk, is this not against his human rights ?? not being able to be with his family ??

The right to respect for family life is protected by human rights, and includes the right to not be separated from family members. This right applies to a variety of family relationships, including parents and children, siblings, and unmarried partners.

Really?  Where is all that laid out...specifically?

[Liverpool Lou]

2 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

 

I just checked, since he left average house prices in England have risen from 88,400 pounds to 300,000 pounds.

 

If you look at the South East of England average prices have gone from 106,542 to 475,133 pounds.

 

National average rents are now 1271 pounds per month.

 

South East rents are 2000 pounds a month.

 

He could be going back to a life of poverty. 

 

Or he could be going back to his UK family that has been supporting him here.

[MikeandDow]

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Really?  Where is all that laid out...specifically?

I am ASKING a QUESTION DUH!!!

[Liverpool Lou]

50 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

2 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Why would he have to do a 90-day report? You had a clear record of his entry in the OP and didn't bother to read it.

What? He entered at some date and never did his 90 day reports so you can easily identity this in the database.

What?  VE entries do not have a 90-day report requirement!

[MikeandDow]

13 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

How does a state pension work at age 60?

You can get a pension from the UK any age  Private pension start when you want !!! YOU are assuming a Goverment pension

[Liverpool Lou]

38 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

48 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No such thing as a pension upgrade to a pension he's not receiving.

How you know that he gets no pension? Do you know him? Are you his partner?? I didn't know that.

He's 60...that's how I know.

[MikeandDow]

Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

He's 60...that's how I know.

So he is 60   i was 50 when my pension started

[Liverpool Lou]

19 minutes ago, Samh said:

50 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No such thing as a pension upgrade to a pension he's not receiving.

I assume very unlikely in this case but UK overseas workers can make voluntary contributions to obtain a UK state pension.

...that would not be payable until pension age.

[Liverpool Lou]

Just now, MikeandDow said:

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

He's 60...that's how I know.

So he is 60   i was 50 when my pension started

Your state pension, which is what was being discussed, was not paid to you at 50.

[richard_smith237]

8 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

His UK family may continue to support them.   As a Non-Thai resident the humanity aspect is something that he should have considered years ago, it is not the Thai authorities responsibility...imagine the chaos if that were the case - have a child and get to stay visa-free.

 

IMO - thats exactly the way it should be....   'Have a child and get to stay Visa Free'....  

 

Or... Be Married (and / or) have Children and get to stay on a long term visa, similar to ILR and enter the pathway to residency and citizenship.

 

 

Just my opinion of course - but I see no reason why after 15 years of Marraige here that I shouldn't be permitted Citizenship....   ( I can't becasue I dont work here )...  But, if we move to the UK, my Wife can 'step on the road towards nationality'....  on the basis of being both the Wife of a British National and Parent to a British Child...   there are hoops to jump through, but it easier than me getting a Thai Passport (which I'd like for future medical care reasons when health insurance care becomes to expensive).

 

Thus: Imagine the Chaos - What Chaos exactly ? people living with their family's but without having to do years extensions of stay ??....   that would make Immigration's life a lot easier.

 

 

[baansgr]

59 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

When were 90-day reports introduced?

I didn't do one till 2016/7 and wasn't eequired