Just now, Jingthing said:

Ukrainians do NOT want the war to continue but they don't want to surrender and be slaves of Putin either. 

Explain Ukraine's winning plan then. You're clearly willing for many more hundreds of thousands of them to die, you better have a winning strategy.

39 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

 

Just insults

Just facts🤔

 

 

7 minutes ago, captain_shane said:

Yeah, they want out because the petulant child wants the war to continue until the last ukrainian. There's no winning strategy for Ukraine, none whatsoever. Continuing to fund this is continuing to fund slavic genocide. I imagine Big Z's a big fan of the holodomor.

don't understand your stupid post.    enough said.   

1 minute ago, sammieuk1 said:

Just facts🤔

 

 

Lots of lefties losing it. 

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Ukrainians do NOT want the war to continue but they don't want to surrender and be slaves of Putin either. 

Then take Trump's deal. Get out of the east. 

3 minutes ago, captain_shane said:

Explain Ukraine's winning plan then. You're clearly willing for many more hundreds of thousands of them to die, you better have a winning strategy.

Drones.

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Then take Trump's deal. Get out of the east. 

you got what you deserve.  Lol   ....  suffer. 

Just now, steven100 said:

don't understand your stupid post.    enough said.   

Another tough guy. Go sign up for Big Z's slaughter fest instead of hiding behind your computer screen. Dust off the cheeto dust, cut your neckbeard, buy a gun and go kill some ruskies coward.

Just now, captain_shane said:

It is predictable what the tribe does. They gain total power over the country and then send the goyim to the meat grinder.

Another live one. 

3 minutes ago, captain_shane said:

Another tough guy. Go sign up for Big Z's slaughter fest instead of hiding behind your computer screen. Dust off the cheeto dust, cut your neckbeard, buy a gun and go kill some ruskies coward.

not sure what hole you crawled out of and don't really care.  

Better make sure my tribe buddies at Blackrock rebuild!

haha ....  The antagonists all disappeared ....    

Several off topic posts by @captain_shane  have been removed, Israel has nothing at all to do with this topic.

29 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

This is interesting. As you know AP and Reuters are barred from high level news meetings, but Tass which is not on the approved list managed to get inside and live-stream the meeting. Guess what? No one knows how they got in🤮

Obviously Comrade Trump obeying his master.

4 hours ago, Yagoda said:

You beat me. Heres how it would have worked.

 

https://trump-just-dealt-russia-a-blow.tiiny.co/?mkt_tok=NDc1LVBCUS05NzEAAAGY6zBqJW55uj7z_FM8akMdccrQfNMTlQoch_xmZM-iDqXXCrbMh5vvDYvOvpnqxVaTiTYIN-_tn1NVd0m0wFSApJcc0tJ93TL_PjSYOdFIFHTjVPE

 

But Putin never was going to take Ukraine that was always western propaganda. he has the areas he wanted on the East.

 

You need to read the forum rules

 

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There is absolutely no excuse for abusive behavior.

 

 

 

 

Anyway,   i'm not a left or right wing or whatever,  but it'll be interesting to see what eventuates over the next few days.   

1 minute ago, captain_shane said:

I never posted anything inflammatory meant to provoke emotional responses. I'm only posting my thoughts on this "war" and the way it's going. I've only posted facts, if those hurt feelings, well I'm not sorry millions of people are dying in this conflict and there are a lot of arm chair generals on here who rival John Bolton in their war hawk views.

you really are baiting. Best to relax and have a beer.  

I wonder will they have another meeting or has Zelensky gone back to Ukraine.   ?

37 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Lots of lefties losing it. 

And you won the election. Anything of substance?

47 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Ukrainians do NOT want the war to continue but they don't want to surrender and be slaves of Putin either. 

Well they shouldnt have let America control the country. A recipe for disaster and provocative in the extreme.

9 hours ago, bannork said:

Obama conducted a survey of the minerals during his tenure and concluded financially it wasn't worth extracting them.

 

It's not just minerals, or as Trump said repeatedly "raw" earths.

 

It includes any extraction of natural resources:  mining, pumping, drilling,............along with the storage and transportation, and port facilities.

 

Nobody has mentioned yet, but if this is ever signed, the US would be getting 50% of any natural gas transit fees paid by Gazprom to Naftogaz (minus 10% for the big guy).

4 minutes ago, steven100 said:

you really are baiting. Best to relax and have a beer.  

I'm not baiting. I'm waiting for the Arm Chair Generals to come up with a plan to retake the lost 20% of land and secure it. One guy apparently thinks drones will recapture the land. No, land needs soldiers to seize it and occupy it. I'm truly waiting for the brilliant Sun Tzu plan from my fellow Aseannow members. The plan currently from them seems to be Bidens plan of continuous arms and money disbursement, which hasn't worked considering they've lost 20% of land in three years. So about 7% of their land gone each year if we keep doing what we're doing. About 1M+ ukrainians have died and 1M+ russians have died in three years. So roughly 675k dead soldiers per year. 

WHAT IS YOUR PLAN GENERALS? ASEAN PATTON WHERE ARE YOU?

I will grant the Kiev Conman this. He tried in his particular oafish manner to stand up to Trump. Unlike Starmer who abjectly abased himself. It was hard to imagine this man is the PM of a country once an empire. More like the leader of Vanuatu or Nauru granted the honor of face time with the POTUS. How the mighty fall.

2 minutes ago, captain_shane said:

I'm not baiting. I'm waiting for the Arm Chair Generals to come up with a plan to retake the lost 20% of land and secure it. One guy apparently thinks drones will recapture the land. No, land needs soldiers to seize it and occupy it. I'm truly waiting for the brilliant Sun Tzu plan from my fellow Aseannow members. The plan currently from them seems to be Bidens plan of continuous arms and money disbursement, which hasn't worked considering they've lost 20% of land in three years. So about 7% of their land gone each year if we keep doing what we're doing. About 1M+ ukrainians have died and 1M+ russians have died in three years. So roughly 675k dead soldiers per year. 

WHAT IS YOUR PLAN GENERALS? ASEAN PATTON WHERE ARE YOU?

I'm in Ukraine  

21 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

But Putin never was going to take Ukraine that was always western propaganda. he has the areas he wanted on the East.

 

He didn't want those lands.  He repeatedly begged the western powers to implement the Minsk agreements.  Had that been done, the four new Russian oblasts would still be in a Ukranian federal republic with limited autonomy.  And now the vassal regime understands that ethnic cleansing has consequences.

 

If the US hadn't regime-changed the legitimately-elected government, with the intention of having the new vassals kick the Sovi....oops....kick the Russians out of Sevastopol, even Crimea would still be in Ukraine, and the Russians would still be paying the lease.

 

Seems this regime change has worked out about as well as the one we pulled in Iran in '53.

52 minutes ago, steven100 said:

you got what you deserve.  Lol   ....  suffer. 

I'm delighted as are most Americans. Out of wars, money saved. Trump is a national hero.

 

 

9 hours ago, bkk6060 said:

The U.S. should totally back out and let Europe handle it Trump is trying too hard to be a hero.

… and take all their bases and special access with them. 

12 hours ago, theblether said:

I'll give Zelensky the benefit of the doubt up until he made the "Nice ocean" comment. That was ridiculous and I'm not shocked that Trump lost his temper. 

 

"Don't you tell us how we will feel," said Trump. And it all went wrong from there. What possessed you, Zelensky. What possessed you? 

 

Watch it all but it gets spicy around half way through 

 

 

 

 

Yeah was a beauty this meeting watched it last night.
They were talking about stuff that should not have been in front of cameras, Zelensky was made to look like a beggar and degraded in my opinion.

Classic Trump in front of the cameras ever since his Apprentice days, but Vance what a dick head he was just sticking his oar in to escalate the confrontation.

Just now, PomPolo said:

Yeah was a beauty this meeting watched it last night.
They were talking about stuff that should not have been in front of cameras, Zelensky was made to look like a beggar and degraded in my opinion.

Classic Trump in front of the cameras ever since his Apprentice days, but Vance what a dick head he was just sticking his oar in to escalate the confrontation.

They wanted to bait this clown and show the country who they're dealing with. A petulant child who isn't going to negotiate in good faith. He literally called JD a bitch to his face.