stupidfarang Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago On 3/4/2025 at 7:25 PM, johng said: I suppose its also difficult when you are blamed (unjustly) for the death of children ? If and when, as he said he wanted to do, "proper" safety studies reveal their conclusions I wonder if those "experts" will change their tune or just keep singing from the same hymn sheet ? I wonder if RFKjr will change his thinkiing on the vaccine after reading the safety studies? If you look at the history of measles pre vaccine you will see it was common for children in their millions around the world to catch the virus. If you also look at what can happen when you have the measles, potential blindness, vomiting, potential brain damage etc.. You may say side effects and deaths were low, I do not know the numbers. The question is, what would you choose for your child, vaccine or take a chance? The vaccine has been around since the early 60s, used world wide, that in it self is a good safety studies in it self aside from the original safety tests.
johng Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 6 minutes ago, stupidfarang said: I wonder if RFKjr will change his thinkiing on the vaccine after reading the safety studies? I'm sure he will read the safety studies when they are done,at the moment there are none to read and this is precisely his point ! Before recommending drugs and vaccines there should be "proper" long term safety studies publicly available and all possible side effects should be revealed to the person contemplating taking the drug/vaccine and there should be timely compensation for injuries and no immunity from prosecution for companies releasing dangerous products and a fully transparent reporting system monitoring the products which will help show up problems in the longer term. And most importantly there should be no coercion/mandates shaming to force anyone to take a product they do not want. 1
RocketDog Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago On 3/4/2025 at 7:25 PM, johng said: I suppose its also difficult when you are blamed (unjustly) for the death of children ? If and when, as he said he wanted to do, "proper" safety studies reveal their conclusions I wonder if those "experts" will change their tune or just keep singing from the same hymn sheet ? Well........ I guess it depends on the results. Assuming they aren't tampered with.
rattlesnake Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago RFK knows the MMR vaccine causes autism, so whatever he's saying here is either yiedling to the pharmaceutical industry or a long-term strategy to buy peace and time before the exposure of how dangerous that vaccine actually is. But it is very unlikely that he actually believes it is safe. 1
johng Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 16 minutes ago, rattlesnake said: RFK knows the MMR vaccine causes autism, I think he believes that yes, and there is strong circumstantial evidence but for now he has to try and get the studies done showing the proof and that will take time so yes again he is biding time..I hope the studies get done in a timely robust and transparent manner..certainly will be interesting to see the results. 1
Purdey Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Future News Former junkie has plan to promote US health by reintroducing polio. 1
johng Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Purdey said: reintroducing polio. You know a large percentage of Polio cases these days are actually from taking the live vaccine..though I think it is not used in the USA any longer.. quote below from that "trusted media source" Wikipedia The primary disadvantage of OPV derives from its inherent nature. As an attenuated but active virus, it can induce vaccine-associated paralytic poliomyelitis (VAPP) in roughly one individual per every 2.7 million doses administered.[23] The live virus can circulate in under-vaccinated populations (termed either variant poliovirus or circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus, cVDPV), and over time can revert to a neurovirulent form causing paralytic polio.[23] This genetic reversal of the pathogen to a virulent form takes a considerable time and does not affect the person who was originally vaccinated. With wild polio cases at record lows, 2017 was the first year where more cases of cVDPV were recorded than the wild poliovirus.[24] Until recent times, a trivalent OPV containing all three viral strains was used, and had nearly eradicated polio infection worldwide.[25] With the complete eradication of wild poliovirus type 2[26] this was phased out in 2016 and replaced with bivalent vaccine containing just types 1 and 3, supplemented with monovalent type 2 OPV in regions where cVDPV type 2 was known to circulate.[23] The switch to the bivalent vaccine and associated missing immunity against type 2 strains, among other factors, led to outbreaks of circulating vaccine-derived poliovirus type 2 (cVDPV2), which increased from two cases in 2016 to 1037 cases in 2020.[27] A novel OPV2 vaccine (nOPV2), which has been genetically modified to reduce the likelihood of disease-causing activating mutations, was granted emergency licencing in 2021, and subsequently full licensure in December 2023.[28] This has greater genetic stability than the traditional oral vaccine and is less likely to revert to a virulent form.[29][9] Genetically stabilised vaccines targeting poliovirus types 1 and 3 are in development, with the intention that these will eventually completely replace the Sabin vaccines.[30] 1
stupidfarang Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 hours ago, johng said: I'm sure he will read the safety studies when they are done,at the moment there are none to read and this is precisely his point ! Before recommending drugs and vaccines there should be "proper" long term safety studies publicly available and all possible side effects should be revealed to the person contemplating taking the drug/vaccine and there should be timely compensation for injuries and no immunity from prosecution for companies releasing dangerous products and a fully transparent reporting system monitoring the products which will help show up problems in the longer term. And most importantly there should be no coercion/mandates shaming to force anyone to take a product they do not want. There have been many studies done on the safety of the measles vaccine, if you research this you will fine the data. 1
stupidfarang Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, rattlesnake said: RFK knows the MMR vaccine causes autism, so whatever he's saying here is either yiedling to the pharmaceutical industry or a long-term strategy to buy peace and time before the exposure of how dangerous that vaccine actually is. But it is very unlikely that he actually believes it is safe. can you show studies that prove your comment about "MMR vaccine causes autism"
rattlesnake Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 44 minutes ago, stupidfarang said: can you show studies that prove your comment about "MMR vaccine causes autism" Yes, but you would not deem them credible. We are past the debating phase now, RFK was appointed to shed light on this issue and amend existing regulations and processes. 1
rattlesnake Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 47 minutes ago, stupidfarang said: There have been many studies done on the safety of the measles vaccine, if you research this you will fine the data. Not by bodies independent of the pharma cartel. This is where RFK comes into play, to dismantle this intricate and nefarious network of influence and censorship. 1
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