The EU Is Authoritarian and Hates Democracy

[LiamB80]

The most apocalyptic images in our lifetime will come out of Europe in the near future. So consumed with their hatred for President Trump they don’t see the real hatred in their own backyard. 

[rough diamond]

48 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Guess you dont understand how the executive works in the US system.

Same way as you have no idea how the EU executive works.

[SpaceKadet]

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

So do you think that Elon Musk is starting to unravel that?

 

How does it work in the saintly EU by the way?

EU in Brussels is an abomination, I will agree on that. Just a bunch of politicos emptying the coffers. And yes, most elected European leaders just lack cohones, but your POTUS does too....

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Completely wrong comparison. What you're saying about the US is true and happening, there is noone in Brussels deciding the Rumanian election.

News to me Musk and RFK jr. are elected.

[Lacessit]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Guess you dont understand how the executive works in the US system.

I guess I don't understand how anyone but a would-be dictator would appoint people on the sole qualification of personal loyalty.

[stevenl]

7 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

News to me Musk and RFK jr. are elected.

Which is not what I'm saying. Your view on the US is correct.

[Yagoda]

5 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I guess I don't understand how anyone but a would-be dictator would appoint people on the sole qualification of personal loyalty.

Got it. Only with Trump among all the Leaders in US history does personal loyalty equate dictatorship. You know naught about guys like William Seward, Sidney Hillman, Eric Holder, Robert Kennedy, Theodore Sorenson and others.

[Lacessit]

10 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Got it. Only with Trump among all the Leaders in US history does personal loyalty equate dictatorship. You know naught about guys like William Seward, Sidney Hillman, Eric Holder, Robert Kennedy, Theodore Sorenson and others.

Name me one other President who required personal loyalty from ALL the people he appointed to their positions, WITHOUT regard to qualifications and experience.

 

Let's start with Abraham Lincoln, shall we? Or JFK and Johnson?

[Yagoda]

3 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Name me one other President who required personal loyalty from ALL the people he appointed to their positions, WITHOUT regard to qualifications and experience.

 

Let's start with Abraham Lincoln, shall we? Or JFK and Johnson?

Every one. Who of Trump's appointees aren't qualified?

 

Nice deflection from the topic. Trump on the brain?

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Every one. Who of Trump's appointees aren't qualified?

 

Nice deflection from the topic. Trump on the brain?

You are the one who first mentioned Trump.

 

RFK Jr. has no medical qualifications. He's an antivaxxer and conspiracy theorist in charge of America's health. Tell me how you think he is qualified, it will be an interesting exercise in doublethink.

 

Or perhaps you can tell me how a television presenter has the experience to run America's military.

 

 

[Yagoda]

2 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Or perhaps you can tell me how a television presenter has the experience to run America's military.

You mean the graduate of Yale thats a combat vet.?

 

The Senate approved his qualifications

 

Keep peeing in the breeze

[JimHuaHin]

Must be  Trump supported and/or totally ignorant of the EU region.

[rough diamond]

19 minutes ago, JimHuaHin said:

Must be  Trump supported and/or totally ignorant of the EU region.

It is just totally ignorant on most of the subjects it posts about.

[Eloquent pilgrim]

 

 

 

To fully understand the authoritarianism of the EU, it is worth studying some history, especially from a British perspective. In January 2001 when, under the 30 year rule, the Public Record Office at Kew opened the files relating to Edward Heath’s application to join the Common Market in 1970, the most striking of these documents were those reflecting the Heath Government’s reaction to something called ‘the Werner Report’.

 

In 1969, the Council of Ministers had commissioned the Prime Minister of Luxembourg, Pierre Werner, to draw up a plan to move the Common Market forward to full economic and monetary union. As luck would have it, his confidential report began circulating in Brussels in October 1970, just as Britain’s negotiations to enter the European Economic Community were getting under way.

 

In the British Foreign Office, as we now know, the Werner Report rang fearful alarm bells. A secret briefing note to Mr. Heath from Con O’Neill, the senior civil servant responsible for Europe, explained that, if implemented, Werner’s proposals would have enormous political repercussions. They envisaged “a process of fundamental political importance, implying progressive development towards a political union” The long-term objectives of economic and monetary union, it was made clear to Mr Heath, “are very far-reaching indeed”, going “well beyond the full establishment of a Common Market”. The Werner plan could lead to,“the ultimate creation of a European federal state, with a single currency.

 

Unfortunately, the treacherous Ted Heath and the Foreign Office, were not alarmed by the contents of the Werner report, but only concerned with keeping its contents from the British public, who were told that we were just joining a “Common Market” …. the rest is well documented and led eventually to the referendum of 2016.

 

 

 

 

[Nid_Noi]

15 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Again, no idea.

 

The linked article talks about 3 domestic issues in Romania, Germany and the UK - which I repeat is NOT an EU member state - and makes only passing reference to the EU.

 

The linked article is tangential to the headline of this thread, 'The EU Is Authoritarian and Hates Democracy', and certainly does not offer much in the way of evidence to support your contention.

You have to do better than that as you seem to have answers for everything.

 

The EU commission has always been cleared about its choice about the EU heads of state.

EU subsidies require EU states to be obedient to the Führerin Frau von der Leyen.

EU has been promoting firewall policy to keep right wing parties out of coalition government.

 

https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/P-10-2025-000150_EN.html

https://capitalresearch.org/article/george-soros-romanian-ghosts-explaining-the-democratic-society/
 

Soros has been very active in Romania for the last 6 months. 
 

We may see a new “Maidan” type of revolution but this time it may backfired because Obama’s Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland is not there to fan the flames.