The EU Is Authoritarian and Hates Democracy

[spidermike007]

  On 3/17/2025 at 5:46 AM, Lacessit said:

I am claiming Waitz and Hegseth both served in the National Guard.

 

While Hegseth was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, it was not in a combat role. Describing him as a combat vet is stretching the truth beyond breaking point, quite a normal experience with your posts.

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I totally agree and the same applies to Vance, who spent 6 months working in an air conditioned office writing press releases, not exactly what I would call dangerous or courageous. 

 

 

[nauseus]

  22 hours ago, candide said:

I cannot because there is no EU law mandating  how member States must hold national elections. So your argument is invalid.

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You started on this "national election" tack but this single issue has limited effect on justice and law in any country where EU law has primacy. 

[candide]

  20 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

You started on this "national election" tack but this single issue has limited effect on justice and law in any country where EU law has primacy. 

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Well the thread topic is about elections and about the electoral commission and the supreme court making decisions about elections.....

[nauseus]

  21 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I totally agree and the same applies to Vance, who spent 6 months working in an air conditioned office writing press releases, not exactly what I would call dangerous or courageous. 

 

 

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BS - anyone that deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan was at some risk.  

[nauseus]

  19 hours ago, candide said:

Well the thread topic is about elections and about the electoral commission and the supreme court making decisions about elections.....

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The topic line broadly suggests that the EU is anti-democratic, which it is.

[spidermike007]

  19 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

 

BS - anyone that deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan was at some risk.  

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Well of course there was some risk, but will you at least be courageous enough to admit that working in an air conditioned office on the base doing press releases, was far less dangerous than the guys who were taking live incoming  rounds, and trying to stay alive on roads that were planted with IEDs? Can you do that? 

[worgeordie]

  22 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

No, of course I don´t click at anything. However, I´ve been reading your comment before on this subject. Looks like you are far more scared than average.

Also I have Avast Premium Security + IObit Anti-Malware + Malwarebytes Total

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When did I comment on this subject , I cannot remember if I even did 

By the looks of things  all the protection you are using there ,it is you

that maybe afraid

 

I only run Microsoft Defender , works OK for me , because I think before I click

and don't download anything iffy ,and also scan it before opening the file.

Stay safe.....

 

regards worgeordie

[RayC]

  23 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Here's a basic fact: the national laws of EU member states are of secondary importance to EU laws, so judicial independence is worth little.

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Where there is a conflict EU law does indeed have primacy over the domestic laws of the EU member states but there are many areas, such as this, which are matters of domestic, not EU, law so your conclusion is incorrect.

[Gottfrid]

  19 hours ago, worgeordie said:

When did I comment on this subject , I cannot remember if I even did 

By the looks of things  all the protection you are using there ,it is you

that maybe afraid

 

I only run Microsoft Defender , works OK for me , because I think before I click

and don't download anything iffy ,and also scan it before opening the file.

Stay safe.....

 

regards worgeordie

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No I am not afraid. My work demands that level of protection. But, I guess that was too easy to think. I try to post more simple for you in the future.

[worgeordie]

  18 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

No I am not afraid. My work demands that level of protection. But, I guess that was too easy to think. I try to post more simple for you in the future.

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OK thank you

 

regards Worgeordie

[nauseus]

  19 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

Well of course there was some risk, but will you at least be courageous enough to admit that working in an air conditioned office on the base doing press releases, was far less dangerous than the guys who were taking live incoming  rounds, and trying to stay alive on roads that were planted with IEDs? Can you do that? 

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Yes, I am courageous enough to do that, as long as you can accept that "press releases" were only a part of his job, which included leading patrols in hazardous areas, and that Bronze Stars are only awarded for service in combat zones (Hegseth has two of them).

[nauseus]

  19 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Where there is a conflict EU law does indeed have primacy over the domestic laws of the EU member states but there are many areas, such as this, which are matters of domestic, not EU, law so your conclusion is incorrect.

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Not many important ones though, eh?

[connda]

The EU Is Authoritarian and Hates Democracy

 

Yep - Authoritarian bordering on Totalitarian and glibly called "Democracy."  Keep annulling elections, candidates, and parties and calling it "Saving Our Democracy."  Nope.  That's just holding onto power no matter what it takes which is Fascistic.  But there you have it.

[RayC]

  18 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Not many important ones though, eh?

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I'd classify national elections as important, wouldn't you?

[RayC]

  18 hours ago, connda said:

The EU Is Authoritarian and Hates Democracy

 

Yep - Authoritarian bordering on Totalitarian and glibly called "Democracy."  Keep annulling elections, candidates, and parties and calling it "Saving Our Democracy."  Nope.  That's just holding onto power no matter what it takes which is Fascistic.  But there you have it.

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And yet - as Brexit proved - each individual member state is perfectly entitled to leave this authoritarian, (almost) totalitarian institution if it wants.

[candide]

  18 hours ago, connda said:

The EU Is Authoritarian and Hates Democracy

 

Yep - Authoritarian bordering on Totalitarian and glibly called "Democracy."  Keep annulling elections, candidates, and parties and calling it "Saving Our Democracy."  Nope.  That's just holding onto power no matter what it takes which is Fascistic.  But there you have it.

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Complete B.S....

[candide]

  19 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

The topic line broadly suggests that the EU is anti-democratic, which it is.

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And the article is wrong, as the EU or EU laws are not involved in the case discussed. They are also not involved in the case of AfD which is also evoked in the article, and even less in the case of UK (for an obvious reason).

 

You comment is just another example of Brexiteers' fantasies.

[nauseus]

  18 hours ago, RayC said:

 

I'd classify national elections as important, wouldn't you?

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Of course but that's just one item, not many.

[nauseus]

  17 hours ago, RayC said:

 

And yet - as Brexit proved - each individual member state is perfectly entitled to leave this authoritarian, (almost) totalitarian institution if it wants.

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Well it does say that in Article 50 (Treaty on European Union) anyway. So gracious of the EU to allow this, of course, but Brexit was so painful and difficult I always wondered if they had added it in by mistake? There were no hints of the bitter battle to come noted within the article.

 

But that's the EU for you. 

[nauseus]

  16 hours ago, candide said:

And the article is wrong, as the EU or EU laws are not involved in the case discussed. They are also not involved in the case of AfD which is also evoked in the article, and even less in the case of UK (for an obvious reason).

 

You comment is just another example of Brexiteers' fantasies.

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But the influence of the EU is discussed. Not in a good and democratic way.

 

 

[candide]

  15 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

But the influence of the EU is discussed. Not in a good and democratic way.

 

 

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The fact that it is discussed doesn't give any credibility to such allegations.

[RayC]

  15 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Well it does say that in Article 50 (Treaty on European Union) anyway. So gracious of the EU to allow this, of course, but Brexit was so painful and difficult I always wondered if they had added it in by mistake? There were no hints of the bitter battle to come noted within the article.

 

But that's the EU for you. 

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It's a strange sort of authoritarian, (almost) totalitarian institution that allows a member state to leave by simply submitting an Article 50 letter, don't you think?

 

You can hardly blame the EU because you swallowed the 'they need us more than we need them' pill.

[RayC]

  16 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Of course but that's just one item, not many.

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Policing, Welfare, Health care, the Armed Forces. That's off the top of my head.

 

Most law which originated from the EU is either directly or indirectly related to protecting the integrity of the Single Market and/or Customs Union.

 

In any event, wherever EU law holds primacy, it is only because the Member States agreed (voted) to delegate responsibility to Brussels.

[RayC]

  15 hours ago, candide said:

The fact that it is discussed doesn't give any credibility to such allegations.

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And that's the nub of it.

 

The accusation of 'EU interference' is a regular occurrence. However, when challenged to provide evidence to support this accusation, nothing of any substance is supplied. The replies usually entail some sort of conspiracy theory.

[Mavideol]

exactly was the purpose of this post if not just for generating clicks and trolling, why allow shxxxt like that

[nauseus]

  15 hours ago, RayC said:

 

It's a strange sort of authoritarian, (almost) totalitarian institution that allows a member state to leave by simply submitting an Article 50 letter, don't you think?

 

You can hardly blame the EU because you swallowed the 'they need us more than we need them' pill.

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As we have seen, the delivery of the letter is a simple process. But after that? far from it.

[Hanaguma]

  On 3/17/2025 at 5:46 AM, Lacessit said:

I am claiming Waitz and Hegseth both served in the National Guard.

 

While Hegseth was deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan, it was not in a combat role. Describing him as a combat vet is stretching the truth beyond breaking point, quite a normal experience with your posts.

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Untrue.

 

Hegseth served under fire, earned the CIB (Combat Infantryman's Badge), which is only given to those who serve in, to quote his citation, "active ground combat" in battle zones. He also was awarded the Bronze Star with "V" for valour, which again is only awarded for action in combat. He led a rifle platoon.  

 

Waltz never got within sniffing distance of gunfire, unless it was on a training field. 

[nauseus]

  15 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Policing, Welfare, Health care, the Armed Forces. That's off the top of my head.

 

Most law which originated from the EU is either directly or indirectly related to protecting the integrity of the Single Market and/or Customs Union.

 

In any event, wherever EU law holds primacy, it is only because the Member States agreed (voted) to delegate responsibility to Brussels.

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Yep, mainly a protection racket. Responsibility? Brussels? You can't seriously put them on the same plate.

[nauseus]

  15 hours ago, RayC said:

 

And that's the nub of it.

 

The accusation of 'EU interference' is a regular occurrence. However, when challenged to provide evidence to support this accusation, nothing of any substance is supplied. The replies usually entail some sort of conspiracy theory.

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The EU is not keen on leaving evidence lying about.