Nightmare in Kursk: Ukrainian Troops Recount Devastating Retreat

[rough diamond]

42 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Makes one wonder what the ex-comedian was thinking, depleting his best troops and our weaponry. Maybe he's basing these types of choices on his "Risk" game-board. He rolled good die and took that for a successful move.

Do you know how do conduct his unwanted war any better?

[beautifulthailand99]

7 hours ago, rough diamond said:

Do you know how do conduct his unwanted war any better?

You find yourself in a seedy Thai bar. The night is over, and the owner—flanked by his enforcers—presents you with a bill so outrageously inflated it borders on the absurd. Do you stand your ground, demanding justice, or do you pay up and slip into the night, knowing the fight was lost before it began?

Any seasoned traveler knows the truth—it’s a scam, plain and simple. But wisdom reminds you that some battles can’t be won, especially when your wealthier friends have long since vanished into the shadows.

 

A million lives have been lost or shattered on both sides—and for what? No one is better off than when it all began. The facts are stark, and the consequences undeniable. This isn’t theatre; it’s Slavic reality. And yes, he, along with Putin, has blood on his hands.

He entered the stage as a comedian; he exits in a tragedy.

 

In 1944, at Yalta, Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin carved up Europe, condemning the East to its fate under a genocidal tyrant. Such is the destiny of small nations—pawns in the Great Game, subject to the whims of empires far beyond their control.

 

He should have taken the ride.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

18 hours ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Makes one wonder what the ex-comedian was thinking, depleting his best troops and our weaponry. Maybe he's basing these types of choices on his "Risk" game-board. He rolled good die and took that for a successful move.

I can understand why he did it- to divert Russian troops from the real war in the east. He just failed to understand that Putin isn't an idiot.

[thaibeachlovers]

10 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

. Do you stand your ground, demanding justice, or do you pay up and slip into the night, knowing the fight was lost before it began?

The really sad thing now is that when the end is in sight, a certain cohort of posters want the killing to continue, while they post from safety. Just a few billion more and Putin will give up, or suchlike nonsense.

It's all down to Zelensky accepting reality or begging for more crumbs to fight on to the last Ukrainian. When they have to press gang cannon fodder, one knows it's over.

[Hellfire]

10 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

 

 

A million lives have been lost or shattered on both sides—and for what? No one is better off than when it all began. The facts are stark, and the consequences undeniable. This isn’t theatre; it’s Slavic reality. And yes, he, along with Putin, has blood on his hands.

He entered the stage as a comedian; he exits in a tragedy.

 

 

He should have taken the ride.

 

What exactly Zelenskiy did to be blamed for this war and its victims? Did not surrender?

[beautifulthailand99]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

The really sad thing now is that when the end is in sight, a certain cohort of posters want the killing to continue, while they post from safety. Just a few billion more and Putin will give up, or suchlike nonsense.

It's all down to Zelensky accepting reality or begging for more crumbs to fight on to the last Ukrainian. When they have to press gang cannon fodder, one knows it's over.

I'll go to my grave with a happy heart that I have never cheered on slaughter from the confort of my armchair. If I'm not prepared to die for it why should I will others ? Particuarly when many are being kidnapped in the streets and frogmarched to the front lines.

[Hellfire]

5 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I'll go to my grave with a happy heart that I have never cheered on slaughter from the confort of my armchair. If I'm not prepared to die for it why should I will others ? Particuarly when many are being kidnapped in the streets and frogmarched to the front lines.

Do you think that most of the Ukrainians are at war because Zelenskiy told them so? They fight for their homes, for their families and for their dignity. Who are you to tell them what to do? Enough with stupid Moscow propaganda here.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

I'll go to my grave with a happy heart that I have never cheered on slaughter from the confort of my armchair. If I'm not prepared to die for it why should I will others ? Particuarly when many are being kidnapped in the streets and frogmarched to the front lines.

Likewise.

 

I'll guess that Zelkensky will only last till 5 minutes after the election voting ends. All that bluster and death, and ends with him crawling to beg the POTUS to let him sign away the minerals.

[thaibeachlovers]

Just now, Hellfire said:

Do you think that most of the Ukrainians are at war because Zelenskiy told them so? They fight for their homes, for their families and for their dignity. Who are yo to tell them what to do? Enough with stupid Moscow propaganda here.

I take it that you are posting that from the front lines?

[beautifulthailand99]

2 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

What exactly Zelenskiy did to be blamed for this war and its victims? Did not surrender?

Assess the risks and proceed accordingly. In my analogy, you're fighting a just cause with the manager while six Thais beat you senseless, escalating the situation further. If you spend years trolling your neighbor, believing the deceptive words of distant suitors, and basing your nationalism on hatred for your past and fellow Slavs, don't be surprised when the rest of the world refuses to start World War III to rescue you.

[thaibeachlovers]

9 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

What exactly Zelenskiy did to be blamed for this war and its victims? Did not surrender?

Failed to recognise reality and was fooled by Boris. Should have stayed in show biz, IMO.

[Hellfire]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

I take it that you are posting that from the front lines?

 

No. Do you think you have a right to tell Ukrainians that they must stop defending their homeland? Let me assure you that Zelenskiy will not last 1 minute if he decides to surrender.

[Hellfire]

4 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Assess the risks and proceed accordingly. In my analogy, you're fighting a just cause with the manager while six Thais beat you senseless, escalating the situation further. If you spend years trolling your neighbor, believing the deceptive words of distant suitors, and basing your nationalism on hatred for your past and fellow Slavs, don't be surprised when the rest of the world refuses to start World War III to rescue you.

No comments on this russian BS propaganda piece.

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Assess the risks and proceed accordingly. In my analogy, you're fighting a just cause with the manager while six Thais beat you senseless, escalating the situation further. If you spend years trolling your neighbor, believing the deceptive words of distant suitors, and basing your nationalism on hatred for your past and fellow Slavs, don't be surprised when the rest of the world refuses to start World War III to rescue you.

What is it with these unqualified types thinking they can run a war? Corporal Hitler thought he could run the war and ended up killing himself while Germany burned, and now we have Zelensky the comedian pretending to be a general while wearing a cosplay uniform, and Ukraine burns.

 

[beautifulthailand99]

 

3 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

 

No. Do you think you have a right to tell Ukrainians that they must stop defending their homeland? Let me assure you that Zelenskiy will not last 1 minute if he decides to surrender.

You are right the uber Nationalists will kill him - he made a pact with the devil with Azov with good intentions but they have none except a pathological hatred of Russians. Ukraine is our mother Bandera is our father.

[thaibeachlovers]

4 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

 

No. Do you think you have a right to tell Ukrainians that they must stop defending their homeland? Let me assure you that Zelenskiy will not last 1 minute if he decides to surrender.

He's doomed either way.

I have my opinion that Ukrainians should stop fooling themselves that they ever had a chance to win. All they did was make Americans very rich and lose their minerals. No much to die for.

[Eric Loh]

11 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

No comments on this russian BS propaganda piece.

Those Russian shills are just following their dear leader in spewing propaganda BS. Point in case, dear leader was briefed by his intelligence staffs including CIA that Ukrainian troops were not encircled by Russian but yet he repeated Putin's propaganda bs that the UKrainians soldiers were surrounded. . 

[thaibeachlovers]

8 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

No comments on this russian BS propaganda piece.

What ARE you going to do when it's all over, Russia gets what it wants, and Ukraine is filled with the weeping of widows and fatherless children?

 

Rinse and repeat for the next US fiasco, perhaps? Iran looks like being it in the next US ME disaster, or perhaps they think Yemen will be an easier ride.

[mrwebb8825]

18 hours ago, rough diamond said:

Do you know how do conduct his unwanted war any better?

I wouldn't have run off begging for someone else to fight for me.

[Lacessit]

22 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I take it that you are posting that from the front lines?

You are posting from New Zealand.

[Lacessit]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What ARE you going to do when it's all over, Russia gets what it wants, and Ukraine is filled with the weeping of widows and fatherless children?

 

Rinse and repeat for the next US fiasco, perhaps? Iran looks like being it in the next US ME disaster, or perhaps they think Yemen will be an easier ride.

Russia will think it has won.

 

In reality, it is a pariah nation, with a ruined economy, and in demographic collapse. It's a Pyrrhic victory.

 

The Chinese will move on eastern Siberia when the timing is right.

[Lacessit]

21 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

What is it with these unqualified types thinking they can run a war? Corporal Hitler thought he could run the war and ended up killing himself while Germany burned, and now we have Zelensky the comedian pretending to be a general while wearing a cosplay uniform, and Ukraine burns.

 

You think Putin is a military genius?

[Hellfire]

16 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

He's doomed either way.

I have my opinion that Ukrainians should stop fooling themselves that they ever had a chance to win. All they did was make Americans very rich and lose their minerals. No much to die for.

  This is your opinion, but it's important to allow those on the ground to make their own decisions. The claim that Zelensky is somehow solely responsible for the Ukrainian resistance is a piece of Kremlin propaganda, and it's completely false, as always. It is the Ukrainian people who chose to resist. In fact, they successfully prevented total occupation of their country in 2022-2023. That achievement alone makes their efforts incredibly significant

[thaibeachlovers]

5 minutes ago, Hellfire said:

  This is your opinion, but it's important to allow those on the ground to make their own decisions. The claim that Zelensky is somehow solely responsible for the Ukrainian resistance is a piece of Kremlin propaganda, and it's completely false, as always. It is the Ukrainian people who chose to resist. In fact, they successfully prevented total occupation of their country in 2022-2023. That achievement alone makes their efforts incredibly significant

It stopped being their own decision when they started forcing men to go to the front. Do all those Ukrainians hiding in Thailand think the war is a good idea?

[thaibeachlovers]

14 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You are posting from New Zealand.

I don't support the war, so why would I sign up to it?

[thaibeachlovers]

11 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Russia will think it has won.

 

In reality, it is a pariah nation, with a ruined economy, and in demographic collapse. It's a Pyrrhic victory.

 

The Chinese will move on eastern Siberia when the timing is right.

Nothing lasts forever.

 

If they keep Crimea and the east, that qualifies as a win.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

You think Putin is a military genius?

You think Putin is running the war?

He normally wears a suit, not a cosplay uniform. Generals don't wear suits.

 

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Nothing lasts forever.

 

If they keep Crimea and the east, that qualifies as a win.

Over 1000 Western companies have left Russia. Starbucks, KFC and MacDonalds don't matter.

 

What does matter are the companies that supplied the technical skills and equipment to keep Russia functioning. All the oil field technology is Western - Baker-Hughes, Haliburton, Petrolite etc.

 

Russia needs about 1000 domestic aircraft to service a very large country. It has 400. It can't build enough planes on its own.

 

The Soviet education system collapsed in 1986. The home-grown engineers, technicians and scientists are all at or past retirement age.

 

! million people have left Russia, including some of its best and brightest. A bank interest rate of 21% is stifling business investment. There is no foreign investment.

 

If Russia keeps Crimea and the east, it is still in a death spiral.

 

 

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You think Putin is running the war?

He normally wears a suit, not a cosplay uniform. Generals don't wear suits.

 

Both sides have generals to direct operations.

 

Putin's ex-KGB buddies assured him Ukrainians would welcome Russian soldiers, and it would only take a week to conquer all of Ukraine.

 

Of course he is running the war, the buck stops with him.

 

You think Zelensky needs a suit? What are you, the fashion police?

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It stopped being their own decision when they started forcing men to go to the front. Do all those Ukrainians hiding in Thailand think the war is a good idea?

No more than the Russians hiding in Thailand.