The left wants to destroy the Greatest country on Earth.

[fredwiggy]

6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Of course life evolved on the Earth after it was created. Rather hard for life to evolve on a mass of molten magma.

 

It's more logical to believe that the creator made evolution as opposed to Adam and Eve just appearing in a garden. BTW did they commit incest to populate the planet?

I believed that when I was young but think differently now................https://answersingenesis.org/genetics/did-we-all-come-from-adam-and-eve/?srsltid=AfmBOorMa40FCNyRsnXfoy57Eywmcptco5QNoFhzEm8EmLFHQ77KjEHC

[jas007]

15 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

 

If that was their plan they did a really bad job of it. The few that died were probably replaced in a few weeks of breeding by the poor people of the world.

COVID wasn't the real killer, it was the jabs.  And those are still killing people as I type this.  Whether the jabs were supposed to work faster than that, I'm not sure, but the plan was put into place well before the start of the COVID spread around the world in early 2020.  They had manufactured the virus and they had contracted for the production of the jabs.  

 

As for the world's poor people and breeding?  Someone once said that the plan wasn't to reduce the population of "people" in general, but to thin out the population of the developed world, where people use the most energy.  Remember, the nuts that dreamed all this up also believe in global warming and climate change and would very much like to reduce energy usage around the world. So, they eliminate a bunch of expensive Europeans and Americans who use a lot of energy and replace them with compliant poor people.   You can see evidence of that part of the plan, now.  Millions of migrants in both Europe and the USA, and all of them poor and mostly not jabbed.  Slave labor, ready to serve the ruling elite.

[Rob Browder]

On 3/31/2025 at 10:20 AM, placeholder said:

Here's a better chart for life expectancy because it compares comparable nations.

https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/u-s-life-expectancy-compare-countries/#Life expectancy at birth, in years, 1980-2023

 

Anyone notice how much more of a toll covid took on the USA? This despite the fact that most comparable countries actually have higher average age than does the USA. Just maybe it had something to do with lower covid vaccination rates?

In the USA, it was still an average age of mid-80s, and 3+ co-morbidities.  In other words, people who were already dying.

 

The difference in death-rates vs other countries had a lot to do with:

1) "CDC Guidelines" for covid treatment - literally the worst possible advice - send old people with covid home, and tell them to do nothing but take paracetamol until their lips turned blue, then call an ambulance.  The hospital protocols were also the inverse of what would save lives.  These ignored the known information at the time from more-successful treatment protocols, which were demonized by the Media and medical establishment, who are literally paid by Pharma, who had no interests in safe "off patent" treatments, which were proven to work.

2) High diabetes rates, and general bad-health across the USA population.  The more unhealthy one is when dealing with an infection, the worse the probable outcome.

[BLMFem]

21 minutes ago, jas007 said:

COVID wasn't the real killer, it was the jabs.  And those are still killing people as I type this.  Whether the jabs were supposed to work faster than that, I'm not sure, but the plan was put into place well before the start of the COVID spread around the world in early 2020.  They had manufactured the virus and they had contracted for the production of the jabs.  

 

As for the world's poor people and breeding?  Someone once said that the plan wasn't to reduce the population of "people" in general, but to thin out the population of the developed world, where people use the most energy.  Remember, the nuts that dreamed all this up also believe in global warming and climate change and would very much like to reduce energy usage around the world. So, they eliminate a bunch of expensive Europeans and Americans who use a lot of energy and replace them with compliant poor people.   You can see evidence of that part of the plan, now.  Millions of migrants in both Europe and the USA, and all of them poor and mostly not jabbed.  Slave labor, ready to serve the ruling elite.

Oh, so "someone once said", did they? Well, that does it for me! I'm gonna don my tinfoil hat and sit in the closet with the light off for a while until I've digested this stupid conspiracy drivel highly credible information.

Thanks for sharing!

[jas007]

Just now, BLMFem said:

Oh, so "someone once said", did they? Well, that does it for me! I'm gonna don my tinfoil hat and sit in the closet with the light off for a while until I've digested this stupid conspiracy drivel highly credible information.

Thanks for sharing!

I wasn't presenting "fact."  Just a theory I read about during the very first phase of the COVID deal.  It sounded bizarre then, but in retrospect, things may be playing out that way.  The pieces fit together. Now more than ever. 

 

-Manufactured virus. Gain of Function research begun at Ft. Derrick and later transferred to Wuhan via Fauci shennanigans.

 

-Jabs designed and contracted well before 2020. 

 

-Jabs are administered mostly to the educated people of the world. People who are more expensive and use more energy. In other words, people the elite would like to get rid of. 

 

-Millions of migrants flooding across Europe countries almost unimpeded.  All poor and mostly unjabbed.

 

-Millions of migrants invaded the Southern US border, also unimpeded. All poor and mostly unjabbed.  They didn't even test, did they?  They just let them in.  Handy replacement workers for all the people who will die. 

 

-Connect the dots.  In retrospect, it all fits.  

 

So, do whatever you want with your tinfoil hat.  It sounds like it may be too late for you at this point.  

 

 

[Rob Browder]

3 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Oh, so "someone once said", did they? Well, that does it for me! I'm gonna don my tinfoil hat and sit in the closet with the light off for a while until I've digested this stupid conspiracy drivel highly credible information.

Thanks for sharing!

Forget the "conspiracy theory" stuff - I don't listen to that either.

 

Instead, read the published studies conducted on covid treatments (1) and mRNA vaccine harm and efficacy.  Also, review the public "excess deaths" statistics from multiple countries.  Take Europe, for example, and compare most and least vaccinated countries, and their excess-death rates post vaccine-rollout. 

 

If we use the most conservative estimate of VAERS under-reporting (a pre-covid study), the death-rate from the vaccines was over 500,000 Americans.  This does not include medium and longer-term harm - is counting only short-term deaths.

 

(1) This lists all the treatments and studies per-each:  https://c19early.org/

[BLMFem]

22 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I wasn't presenting "fact."  Just a theory I read about during the very first phase of the COVID deal.  It sounded bizarre then, but in retrospect, things may be playing out that way.  The pieces fit together. Now more than ever. 

 

-Manufactured virus. Gain of Function research begun at Ft. Derrick and later transferred to Wuhan via Fauci shennanigans.

 

-Jabs designed and contracted well before 2020. 

 

-Jabs are administered mostly to the educated people of the world. People who are more expensive and use more energy. In other words, people the elite would like to get rid of. 

 

-Millions of migrants flooding across Europe countries almost unimpeded.  All poor and mostly unjabbed.

 

-Millions of migrants invaded the Southern US border, also unimpeded. All poor and mostly unjabbed.  They didn't even test, did they?  They just let them in.  Handy replacement workers for all the people who will die. 

 

-Connect the dots.  In retrospect, it all fits.  

 

So, do whatever you want with your tinfoil hat.  It sounds like it may be too late for you at this point.  

 

 

You forgot to mention the lizard people.

 

If there's a "may be" for me then there's hope. In your case, unfortunately, there's absolutely no maybe.

[Rob Browder]

5 minutes ago, jas007 said:

Jabs are administered mostly to the educated people of the world. People who are more expensive and use more energy. In other words, people the elite would like to get rid of. 

I don't go down into what "they planned" beyond what is documented.  It is too easy to get caught up in disinformation - planted to make anyone critical of government-policy "look crazy" or "unpatriotic," etc. 

 

The use of the term "conspiracy theory" to discredit was pushed by the CIA in the wake of the JFK Assassination as a way to respond to those skeptical of the Warren Report.  It is best to avoid this trap.

 

But, I do remember Rahm Emannuel's statement, "Never Let a Crisis Go To Waste" - and I keep that in mind when looking at implemented policies and the results.  The St. Louis Fed employment chart, linked below, shows the results of post-covid lockdown government and corporate policy:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=15Kpl

 

Draw a horizontal line from the pre-covid employment-level of both groups.  Notice the "native born" is close to zero employment-gains, while the foreign-born number has gone up significantly.

[BLMFem]

34 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

Forget the "conspiracy theory" stuff - I don't listen to that either.

 

Instead, read the published studies conducted on covid treatments (1) and mRNA vaccine harm and efficacy.  Also, review the public "excess deaths" statistics from multiple countries.  Take Europe, for example, and compare most and least vaccinated countries, and their excess-death rates post vaccine-rollout. 

 

If we use the most conservative estimate of VAERS under-reporting (a pre-covid study), the death-rate from the vaccines was over 500,000 Americans.  This does not include medium and longer-term harm - is counting only short-term deaths.

 

(1) This lists all the treatments and studies per-each:  https://c19early.org/

You linked to a dodgy website started by this character (from Wikipedia):

 

"Steven Todd Kirsch is an American entrepreneur. He has started several companies and was one of two independent inventors of the optical mouse. Kirsch has been both a philanthropic supporter of medical research, and a promoter of misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines."

 

So no thanks.

[Rob Browder]

7 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

You linked to a dodgy website started by this character (from Wikipedia):

 

"Steven Todd Kirsch is an American entrepreneur. He has started several companies and was one of two independent inventors of the optical mouse. Kirsch has been both a philanthropic supporter of medical research, and a promoter of misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines."

 

So no thanks.

Are those the actual studies conducted and published in journals?   Yes, they are!!

Why not look at the DATA, instead of going on an ad-hominem attack on who put the DATA on a website?

 

Wikipedia does not like the guy who set up the website?  Do you really believe that Wikipedia is unbiased - a collection of bits of articles from corporate-owned media sites?  Who / what corporations advertise in the corporate media?  Do companies operate to make money?  Do you think that affects what they publish?

[BLMFem]

Just now, Rob Browder said:

Are those the actual studies conducted and published in journals?   Yes, they are!!

Why not look at the DATA, instead of going on an ad-hominem attack on who put the DATA on a website?

 

Wikipedia not like the guy who set up the website?  Do you really believe that Wikipedia unbiased - a collection of bits of articles from corporate-owned media sites?  Who / what corporations advertise in the corporate media?  Do companies operate to make money?  Do you think that affects what they publish?

Do you think that Wikipedia earnings in any way are affected by how they chose to describe Steven Todd Kirsch?

[jas007]

3 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

Are those the actual studies conducted and published in journals?   Yes, they are!!

Why not look at the DATA, instead of going on an ad-hominem attack on who put the DATA on a website?

 

Wikipedia does not like the guy who set up the website?  Do you really believe that Wikipedia is unbiased - a collection of bits of articles from corporate-owned media sites?  Who / what corporations advertise in the corporate media?  Do companies operate to make money?  Do you think that affects what they publish?

 There's  actually a lot of documentation out there about the origins of COVID, the production of the jabs, and when all this occurred.  There are paper trails. Emails, requisition invoices, patents applied for and granted, and so on.  It's all available. And yet if you show all that to some people, they'll call you a "conspiracy theorist."  They simply won't open their eyes.  Their brains not are wired to do that. In the end, it's not worth bothering with at this point.  Let them wallow in their ignorance. 

 

I could post a lot of information here, but in my mind, the COVID era is over.  I escaped unjabbed and I won't be a victim.  The rest is unfolding now. 

[Rob Browder]

7 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Do you think that Wikipedia earnings in any way are affected by how they chose to describe Steven Todd Kirsch?

Read what I said more closely - nothing to do with "Wikipedia earnings." 

Wikipedia requires "sources" - which must be from "approved" corporate-media sites.  If you want "unbiased information" - you won't find it coming from those paid to have a particular opinion.  

[BLMFem]

5 minutes ago, Rob Browder said:

Read what I said more closely - nothing to do with "Wikipedia earnings." 

Wikipedia requires "sources" - which must be from "approved" corporate-media sites.  If you want "unbiased information" - you won't find it coming from those paid to have a particular opinion.  

And just who are the.........forget it, I've wasted enough time on this subject. You take your Ivermectin, fluvoxamine, bleach or whatever else it is you prefer to the MSM (mainstream medication) and leave the rest to Darwin's principles.

[Rob Browder]

1 minute ago, jas007 said:

 There's  actually a lot of documentation out there about the origins of COVID, the production of the jabs, and when all this occurred.  There are paper trails. Emails, requisition invoices, patents applied for and granted, and so on.  It's all available. And yet if you show all that to some people, they'll call you a "conspiracy theorist."  They simply won't open their eyes.  Their brains not are wired to do that. In the end, it's not worth bothering with at this point.  Let them wallow in their ignorance. 

 

I could post a lot of information here, but in my mind, the COVID era is over.  I escaped unjabbed and I won't be a victim.  The rest is unfolding now. 

Well, if you mean how the virus came to be - yes, there is a lot on that.  For example, the "gain of function" spike-protein used was patented by Moderna in 2016 - a perfect gene-match - 1 in 3-trilliion odds that match could happen naturally.

 

It's trying to get into the heads of the people involved which is problematic.  "They were trying to use this research to save lives," is what they will claim - and, in many cases, that may be true.  For example, a virus used in gene-therapy for cancer would explain creating that spike-protein. 

 

The only way to restore trust, would be to return to a system where medical research is primarily conducted by non-profits and universities - and NOT universities with big corporate "grants" funding the medical-research.  A profit-motive system is great for consumer-electronics and such - but the incentives go sideways when "sick people are more profitable."

[Rob Browder]

5 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

And just who are the.........forget it, I've wasted enough time on this subject. You take your Ivermectin, fluvoxamine, bleach or whatever else it is you prefer to the MSM (mainstream medication) and leave the rest to Darwin's principles.

Gosh, I wonder why you added "bleach" in this context. Why go digging into who put up the website - instead of looking at the results of the journal studies? 

 

If you are ashamed of being fooled by a very sophisticated govt/pharma/msm propaganda barrage - one which used heavy doses of terror/fear to obtain compliance - don't be.  The goal is not to be fooled again.

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, Rob Browder said:

In the USA, it was still an average age of mid-80s, and 3+ co-morbidities.  In other words, people who were already dying.

 

The difference in death-rates vs other countries had a lot to do with:

1) "CDC Guidelines" for covid treatment - literally the worst possible advice - send old people with covid home, and tell them to do nothing but take paracetamol until their lips turned blue, then call an ambulance.  The hospital protocols were also the inverse of what would save lives.  These ignored the known information at the time from more-successful treatment protocols, which were demonized by the Media and medical establishment, who are literally paid by Pharma, who had no interests in safe "off patent" treatments, which were proven to work.

2) High diabetes rates, and general bad-health across the USA population.  The more unhealthy one is when dealing with an infection, the worse the probable outcome.

Except that, before the vaccines were introduced, death rates from COVID were very close in both red and blue America. But once there were the vaccines, then the death rates diverged. And, no, it wasn't the unvaccinated who fared better

[Rob Browder]

On 3/31/2025 at 6:35 PM, Walker88 said:

Clearly the MAGA cult wants to destroy the greatest democracy the world has ever seen.

Ever hear of "Good Cop / Bad Cop" - aka "Mutt and Jeff"?  That is how the 2-party system works.  What is amazing to me, is how people in both camps can be so easily manipulated to see ONLY the "other" side's bad policies.

 

My advise is - remember that the "bi-partisan" policies are usually the most harmful to our lives, freedom, and future.  And watch for the Orwellian inverse language in those - like "Patriot Act" or "CARES Act."

[BLMFem]

6 minutes ago, placeholder said:

Except that, before the vaccines were introduced, death rates from COVID were very close in both red and blue America. But once there were the vaccines, then the death rates diverged. And, no, it wasn't the unvaccinated who fared better

You're introducing facts into a thread mainly populated by people who do their own research. I've tried that repeatedly but it's like they're vaccinated against it.

And let me tell you that that vaccine is 100% effective.

[ronnie50]

"Greatest country on earth" - In a word - No. But that's obvious to most and not worthy of a further reply as I'm sure it's been well-covered by others (and I'm not reading it all - again).

[placeholder]

1 minute ago, ronnie50 said:

"Greatest country on earth" - In a word - No. But that's obvious to most and not worthy of a further reply as I'm sure it's been well-covered by others (and I'm not reading it all - again).

How about "America is the greatest country in the United States?"

[ronnie50]

8 minutes ago, placeholder said:

How about "America is the greatest country in the United States?"

Yeah, I've seen that one. Or how about this one: 'speak English in are country'

 

 

 

[KireB]

On 3/31/2025 at 7:20 PM, fredwiggy said:

I understand science, but it's never explained how the universe got it's start, that it just happened or that it was created, which is a more logical explanation. Some theories that make sense to some, and we use faith. I wouldn't threaten you with eternal damnation. That's God's to judge. All I can do is say he exists, and you'll make your choice. We'll all meet God when we die, and for some it might not be a good time. 

 

The devil has no power. He's just waiting for us to make the worst mistake, turning our backs on God. 

 

God might have some strange reasons bad things happen we can't understand, and I'm definitely one who questions why, , but again, in simple terms anyone can understand. 80 years or so is nothing compared to forever, and any deity that can create the universe from his mind surely has something worth waiting for when we pass, with no pain or sorrow, and only the good things we've come to enjoy, and then some. 

 

As believers we can only hope those who don't believe can see different, as there are a few reasons people turn their backs on God, one being they lost someone to some stupid disease, and can't understand why God would allow it, or their parents forced religion down their throats, and maybe in abusive ways, and this turned them against God as well. Why would God allow children to suffer? All these reasons come back to that 80 years or so, and it still doesn't add up to forever. Someone who thinks they are above all this, that others who believe are naive or stupid, will talk to God someday, as we all will.

More logical that Earth was created? Uhh.........
Who created the creator then?  

[MicroB]

2 hours ago, jas007 said:

Gain of Function research begun at Ft. Derrick

 

If you want to copy paste conspiracy theories, learn to spell.

 

Still, my experience with Fort Detrick is they couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery at times. I was among many exposed in 2008 due to their mistake. And GoF certainly didn't originate with those muppets. Its just a term to describe what us microbiologists and virologists had been doing for decades, but just called it something else.

[KireB]

On 4/3/2025 at 8:22 AM, EVENKEEL said:

If I didn't have my private international insurance I would have a policy in Thailand. 

 

You won't admit that the US is the most beloved country in the world. 

[KireB]

1 hour ago, placeholder said:

How about "America is the greatest country in the United States?"

That's a bit like the World Series.

[riclag]

Charlie Kirk featuring  grassroots TPUSA has been traveling College Campuses  while setting up 

discussions & debates.This effort was

very successful during the 2024 Presidential Election.

 

Uc Davis  had  such a event , Antifa 

destroyed cameras,tents , tables and assaulted TPUSA staff.

Police stood by and did nothing!

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/turning-point-usa-student-group-attacked-california-university-campus-what-mostly-peaceful-looks-like

 

 

 

[placeholder]

1 hour ago, ronnie50 said:

Yeah, I've seen that one. Or how about this one: 'speak English in are country'

 

 

 

I never had seen that one. But usually when I think I've come up with an  original bon mot and check it on the internet, it turns out that somebody or several somebodies, have gotten there before me. So discouraging.

[riclag]

Charlie Kirk featuring  grassroots TPUSA has been traveling College Campuses  while setting up 

discussions & debates.This effort was

very successful during the 2024 Presidential Election.

 

Uc Davis  had  such a event , Antifa 

destroyed cameras,tents , tables and assaulted TPUSA staff.

Police stood by and did nothing!

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/turning-point-usa-student-group-attacked-california-university-campus-what-mostly-peaceful-looks-like

 

I watch a lot of his campus debates! Time to beef up security! You can Always tell how successful  you are by the violent attacks perpetrated on groups like TPUSA  by the extremist leftist.
 

Georgetown Professor Jonathan Turley:  

 

 

[fredwiggy]

9 hours ago, KireB said:

More logical that Earth was created? Uhh.........
Who created the creator then?  

Has always been here