First UK Passport for Thai/English daughter

[goldenbrwn1]

I know it's been done to death, but it's so blooming confusing.  My daughter is 15 and I need to get her a British passport, I am a British born, passport holder. What exactly do I need to bring to the appointment when I make one? ,I am reading all sorts on here and confusing stuff elsewhere online. 

 

I have filled out the correct passport application. All counter signed and ready.

I have my British passport, long form birth certificate, my daughters birth certificate which inc my name.

My daughter's Thai passport ,mother's and mother's bluebook.

We are not married but I have found out my daughter is already a British citizen by default from date of birth and having a British parent not by decent.

 

My main confusion is on the documents I need to take and what photo copies of documents I need . I gather passports , birth certificates, blue book etc but I then read a photo copy of the counter signatories passport photo page?? The problem with that is he's gone back to the UK. Is this really needed? Any help from anyone that has gone through this process off late would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks 

[Upnotover]

Presumably the counter-signatory completed and signed section 10?   From what I can see the copy of the counter-signatories passport does not need to be signed.  So presumably they can simply email it to you and you can print it.

[goldenbrwn1]

16 minutes ago, Upnotover said:

Presumably the counter-signatory completed and signed section 10?   From what I can see the copy of the counter-signatories passport does not need to be signed.  So presumably they can simply email it to you and you can print it.

Yeh but TiT. I suspect they will want a photo paper copy straight off the original . But thanks for the response and I will find out if an email print would suffice . I suppose it’s just a copy so wouldn’t matter anyways . 

[brewsterbudgen]

Get the counter-signatory to email you a photo of his passport ID page and just print it out.  It worked fine for me.

[goldenbrwn1]

22 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Get the counter-signatory to email you a photo of his passport ID page and just print it out.  It worked fine for me.

Yeh that’s what I have done , cheers mate glad to hear it worked 👍 

[bangkokspurs]

when i did my daughters uk passport renewal...what the visa people didn't tell me was.

 

1. You have to have every page in her old uk passport printed including front and back.

2. Same for her Thai passport every page front and back.

3 . Her mother needs to write w letter agreeing that she can have the UK passport. What i did was print out, all in english on behalve of the her mother she signed in Thai and also attached her id card front and back. 

[OJAS]

On 4/9/2025 at 1:19 PM, goldenbrwn1 said:

Yeh but TiT.

 

TiUK actually. That's where HMPO, at whose behest you're having to jump through all these hoops, are based.

[Millian]

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 I then read a photo copy of the counter signatories passport photo page?

I cannot see where it states that is needed in the required documents, nor on the form?   Where did you read that?

I just applied this week and the officer didn't mention that was missing when going though the checklist and my documents.  Hope they don't come back and ask for it.

[brewsterbudgen]

33 minutes ago, Millian said:

I cannot see where it states that is needed in the required documents, nor on the form?   Where did you read that?

I just applied this week and the officer didn't mention that was missing when going though the checklist and my documents.  Hope they don't come back and ask for it.

I didn't need it this time (January).  If it wasn't asked for by the VFS officer, you should be OK.

[goldenbrwn1]

44 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

I didn't need it this time (January).  If it wasn't asked for by the VFS officer, you should be OK.

I am going to send a photocopy of the signatory’s passport but tbh there’s nothing clear 💯 on what’s needed. Now I have heard I need to send the real full birth certificate of the mother. I mean why would they need that as well as passport and ID card??  I am not married so maybe that’s it , not sure tbh . 
 

Did you have to write out permission from the Thai mother to apply for the passport in English and then get her to sign?  If you could I’d really appreciate if you could list the documents what you sent, as I hear different all the time and I need to send it all off this week . 
 

This I have 

Bluebook
passport mother and daughter 

id cards mother and daughter

my passport colour copy

my real long form birth certificate 

daughters birth certificate with translation

colour copy of signatory’s passport

photos of daughter 1 signed by said signatory

 

Nit sure what else tbh

Hope you can help or anyone for that matter 👍 

[Presnock]

On 4/9/2025 at 12:33 PM, goldenbrwn1 said:

I know it's been done to death, but it's so blooming confusing.  My daughter is 15 and I need to get her a British passport, I am a British born, passport holder. What exactly do I need to bring to the appointment when I make one? ,I am reading all sorts on here and confusing stuff elsewhere online. 

 

I have filled out the correct passport application. All counter signed and ready.

I have my British passport, long form birth certificate, my daughters birth certificate which inc my name.

My daughter's Thai passport ,mother's and mother's bluebook.

We are not married but I have found out my daughter is already a British citizen by default from date of birth and having a British parent not by decent.

 

My main confusion is on the documents I need to take and what photo copies of documents I need . I gather passports , birth certificates, blue book etc but I then read a photo copy of the counter signatories passport photo page?? The problem with that is he's gone back to the UK. Is this really needed? Any help from anyone that has gone through this process off late would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks 

I'm US with a daughter here and I am not sure if there is any different requirements but did you do or is that necessary under UK rules - a consular overseas birth certificate which is also what I needed to get her a US passport?

[goldenbrwn1]

5 minutes ago, Presnock said:

I'm US with a daughter here and I am not sure if there is any different requirements but did you do or is that necessary under UK rules - a consular overseas birth certificate which is also what I needed to get her a US passport?

No it’s just a registration of birth for the UK which I didn’t  have to do apparently because of the year she was born and the fact I’m  a direct descendant being her Father…well  I hope that’s correct 😂 

[Millian]

These are the docs we supplied:
 

• Daughter Birth Certificate
• Daughter Birth Certificate Copy
• Daughter Birth Certificate Translation
• Daughter Birth Certificate Translation Copy
• Daughters Thai Passport
• Daughters Thai Passport (every single page)
• Fathers (mine) Birth Certificate (original long one)
• Fathers (mine) Birth Certificate Copy
• Fathers (mine) Passport
• Fathers (mine) Passport Copy (only stamped pages)
• Letter showing my name and address in Thailand in English
• Wife's ID Card
• Wife's ID Card Copy
• Wife's Passport
• Wife's Passport Copy
• Wife Birth Certificate
• Wife Birth Certificate Copy
• Marriage Certificate
• Marriage Certificate Copy
• Marriage Certificate Translation
• Marriage Certificate Translation Copy
• Wife's change of Forename certificate
• Wife's change of Forename certificate Copy
• Wife's change of Forename certificate Translation
• Wife's change of Forename certificate Translation Copy

Didn't realise the last item and wife's birth certificate was needed, but they are so we had to make another appointment and come back another day once we had them.

Application is still in process, so don't know if this is enough at this stage

[Millian]

9 minutes ago, Presnock said:

I'm US with a daughter here and I am not sure if there is any different requirements but did you do or is that necessary under UK rules - a consular overseas birth certificate which is also what I needed to get her a US passport?

Documents required can differ between countries.

A consular overseas birth certificate isn't needed for UK.  Just Thai certificate with a translation.

[goldenbrwn1]

8 minutes ago, Millian said:

These are the docs we supplied:
 

• Daughter Birth Certificate
• Daughter Birth Certificate Copy
• Daughter Birth Certificate Translation
• Daughter Birth Certificate Translation Copy
• Daughters Thai Passport
• Daughters Thai Passport (every single page)
• Fathers (mine) Birth Certificate (original long one)
• Fathers (mine) Birth Certificate Copy
• Fathers (mine) Passport
• Fathers (mine) Passport Copy (only stamped pages)
• Letter showing my name and address in Thailand in English
• Wife's ID Card
• Wife's ID Card Copy
• Wife's Passport
• Wife's Passport Copy
• Wife Birth Certificate
• Wife Birth Certificate Copy
• Marriage Certificate
• Marriage Certificate Copy
• Marriage Certificate Translation
• Marriage Certificate Translation Copy
• Wife's change of Forename certificate
• Wife's change of Forename certificate Copy
• Wife's change of Forename certificate Translation
• Wife's change of Forename certificate Translation Copy

Didn't realise the last item and wife's birth certificate was needed, but they are so we had to make another appointment and come back another day once we had them.

Application is still in process, so don't know if this is enough at this stage

Appreciated thanks 👍 

[Millian]

16 minutes ago, goldenbrwn1 said:

 Now I have heard I need to send the real full birth certificate of the mother. I mean why would they need that as well as passport and ID card??  I am not married so maybe that’s it , not sure tbh . 
 

Yeah mothers birth certificate is needed,  whether married or not. We didn't have it and we were told its needed and had to make another appointment on the website (or come back before 2pm same day with it). 

 

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Did you have to write out permission from the Thai mother to apply for the passport in English and then get her to sign?  

No, and I don't recall any mention of that in the required docs?  Although the mother accompanied us to the application.  Maybe need if the Thai parent isn't present?

[brewsterbudgen]

I renewed my son's UK passport (his third) in January via VFS Bangkok.

 

Other than the form, I supplied a copy of every page of his expiring passport, new counter-signed photos, proof that he's at school in Thailand which also showed his/my address here, and a translation of his Thai birth certificate, a copy of my UK passport ID page and a copy of his mother's Lao passport ID page, a copy of our UK marriage certificate.  Nothing else was needed.

[goldenbrwn1]

4 minutes ago, Millian said:

Yeah mothers birth certificate is needed,  whether married or not. We didn't have it and we were told its needed and had to make another appointment on the website (or come back before 2pm same day with it). 

 

No, and I don't recall any mention of that in the required docs?  Although the mother accompanied us to the application.  Maybe need if the Thai parent isn't present?

I think it’s because we are not together and never married. You say you had to send a letter with your name and address in Thailand ? I’m here on a tourist visa so no fixed abode so I can’t do that. Also I was told I didn’t need to send my real passport just real birth certificate and all Thai documents real . I am using a visa service by the way as NGL all this does my nut in 😂  This is her first passport

[Presnock]

27 minutes ago, Millian said:

These are the docs we supplied:
 

• Daughter Birth Certificate
• Daughter Birth Certificate Copy
• Daughter Birth Certificate Translation
• Daughter Birth Certificate Translation Copy
• Daughters Thai Passport
• Daughters Thai Passport (every single page)
• Fathers (mine) Birth Certificate (original long one)
• Fathers (mine) Birth Certificate Copy
• Fathers (mine) Passport
• Fathers (mine) Passport Copy (only stamped pages)
• Letter showing my name and address in Thailand in English
• Wife's ID Card
• Wife's ID Card Copy
• Wife's Passport
• Wife's Passport Copy
• Wife Birth Certificate
• Wife Birth Certificate Copy
• Marriage Certificate
• Marriage Certificate Copy
• Marriage Certificate Translation
• Marriage Certificate Translation Copy
• Wife's change of Forename certificate
• Wife's change of Forename certificate Copy
• Wife's change of Forename certificate Translation
• Wife's change of Forename certificate Translation Copy

Didn't realise the last item and wife's birth certificate was needed, but they are so we had to make another appointment and come back another day once we had them.

Application is still in process, so don't know if this is enough at this stage

Wow!  That is a lot more than we needed...but the list and problems we had getting US immigration approval to go to the US for wife just after Afghanistan fell.  Immigration had a backlog of over 500K folks and could process about 3500 a month only.  Took us just over a year and we were doing it just to take daughter back for accepted college but due to the immigration wait, daughter decided to go to college here in Thailand.  Hope the rest of your process goes well and more quickly!

[Millian]

Both parents birth certificate is needed if whether married or not.

It's in the list of required docs, but I overlooked it, even though I had it on my checklist.

 

 

 

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 You say you had to send a letter with your name and address in Thailand ? I’m here on a tourist visa so no fixed abode so I can’t do that. 

Yeah, need to supply some proof of address for residency.  Although if you're here on a Tourist visa, then maybe you supply proof of residency from UK?  (just guessing, dont know about that).

In fact not sure if proof of your residency, or the child's is needed?  Like you said, there's so many different tables in the docs, it's not exactly strait forward.

 

 

 

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Also I was told I didn’t need to send my real passport just real birth certificate and all Thai documents real . I am using a visa service by the way as NGL all this does my nut in 😂  This is her first passport

When you book the application it reminds you to take originals of all the documents and the copies.  Would have thought your passport is an important one to see original of.

If you are paying an agency to help with the application, then hopefully they should be able to tell you exactly what you need.

 

 

 

[goldenbrwn1]

5 minutes ago, Millian said:

Both parents birth certificate is needed if whether married or not.

It's in the list of required docs, but I overlooked it, even though I had it on my checklist.

 

 

 

Yeah, need to supply some proof of address for residency.  Although if you're here on a Tourist visa, then maybe you supply proof of residency from UK?  (just guessing, dont know about that).

In fact not sure if proof of your residency, or the child's is needed?  Like you said, there's so many different tables in the docs, it's not exactly strait forward.

 

 

 

When you book the application it reminds you to take originals of all the documents and the copies.  Would have thought your passport is an important one to see original of.

If you are paying an agency to help with the application, then hopefully they should be able to tell you exactly what you need.

 

Appreciate the response mate thanks 🙏 

[Millian]

12 minutes ago, Millian said:

Yeah, need to supply some proof of address for residency.  Although if you're here on a Tourist visa, then maybe you supply proof of residency from UK?  (just guessing, dont know about that).

In fact not sure if proof of your residency, or the child's is needed?  Like you said, there's so many different tables in the docs, it's not exactly strait forward.

 

 

Actually yeah if its' their first passport, supposed to show proof of residence of you and the child from where you are applying from, as per this line from above:

If you are applying for a Child first British passport the following documents are also accepted. The document provided should show a link to the parent applying and show that the child and parent are resident where they are applying from.

So not sure what you can use in case of a tourist visa?

Best ask your agency.

[goldenbrwn1]

6 minutes ago, Millian said:

Actually yeah if its' their first passport, supposed to show proof of residence of you and the child from where you are applying from, as per this line from above:

If you are applying for a Child first British passport the following documents are also accepted. The document provided should show a link to the parent applying and show that the child and parent are resident where they are applying from.

So not sure what you can use in case of a tourist visa?

Best ask your agency.

I think that will be the mother from what they said to me. They have not mentioned anything about proof of address from me . I filled out the form as the mother being the main carer which is obviously true as I don’t live here.

[josephbloggs]

47 minutes ago, Millian said:

In fact not sure if proof of your residency, or the child's is needed?  Like you said, there's so many different tables in the docs, it's not exactly strait forward.
 

It's your proof of address (utility bill, Thai DL,  anything). However if the child has turned 16 then it must be proof of address in their name, not yours. Just renewed a 16 year old daughter's passport recently and that caught me out.

[goldenbrwn1]

5 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

It's your proof of address (utility bill, Thai DL,  anything). However if the child has turned 16 then it must be proof of address in their name, not yours. Just renewed a 16 year old daughter's passport recently and that caught me out.

So how do I show proof of address , do I need a uk utility bill? It just seems stupid to have to provide that tbh

[josephbloggs]

2 minutes ago, goldenbrwn1 said:

So how do I show proof of address , do I need a uk utility bill? It just seems stupid to have to provide that tbh

I don't know in your case as you don't live here. I suggest you email them to ask - they are actually quite helpful and you usually get a response by the next day.

 

[email protected]

 

But as you are paying an agent to do this I would have thought part of their job is to answer these questions? Anyway, just email yourself to ask.

[brewsterbudgen]

7 minutes ago, goldenbrwn1 said:

So how do I show proof of address , do I need a uk utility bill? It just seems stupid to have to provide that tbh

You are proving your Thai address not UK!

[goldenbrwn1]

4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

You are proving your Thai address not UK!

I don’t have one , I’m not married or with the Mother. I’m on a tourist visa at the min 👍 

[brewsterbudgen]

7 minutes ago, goldenbrwn1 said:

I don’t have one , I’m not married or with the Mother. I’m on a tourist visa at the min 👍 

If the child lives in Thailand then you use this address.  A Thai address is necessary if you're applying in Thailand.  Can you apply in the UK?

[goldenbrwn1]

4 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

If the child lives in Thailand then you use this address.  A Thai address is necessary if you're applying in Thailand.  Can you apply in the UK?

No I’m applying here , the agency has  just said blubook with mother and daughters name is enough and they only need colour photo copy of my main 2 passport pages but my original birth certificate from me. All Thai documents have to be original