Single entry Non O

[JAG]

I am currently in Thailand on a visa waiver entry.

I have been here for over 12 years. initially on a series of Non O multiple entry visas from Savannakhet, then when COVID struck I obtained a retirement extension. Then due to a debilitating injury, and subsequent extensive hospital stays and surgeries I was unable to renew the extension. At my local Immigration Office suggestion I have been using Visa Waiver entry, each extended by up to 3 months (30 days and then 60 days). Living near Chiang Khong border "in/outs were very easy. Chiang Khong has lately become increasingly difficult, requiring a 2 day stay in Laos. Last weekend I flew to KL and back, my local IO advised me the airport woud be no problem. Don Muang immigration pulled me over however. The officer was very helpful, sympathetic,  considered all the circumstances, medical, daughter at university, and so forth, but firmly advised me that this entry would likely be the last one I was allowed. We talked about getting a visa, and had an interesting conversation on the options.

 

Anyway, this tale of woe aside, I need to start by getting a 90 day Non O ( or possibly a tourist visa). Can anyone advise me, are they still available from Savannakhet, or even in Thailand? I really don't want to travel to UK if I can help it.

 

 

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, JAG said:

Can anyone advise me, are they still available from Savannakhet, or even in Thailand? I really don't want to travel to UK if I can help it.

You do not need to obtain Non O retirement in UK.

In fact you could have obtained a Non O retirement from visa exempt entry to Thailand.

 

Process outlined in this thread 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1311886-visa-exempt-to-retirement-extension-process-and-cost/

 

Can you satisfy the financial requirements.

If not use an agent. 

As for Savannakhet that is now e-Visa application. I would avoid that. 

 

 

[Liquorice]

1 hour ago, JAG said:

At my local Immigration Office suggestion I have been using Visa Waiver entry, each extended by up to 3 months (30 days and then 60 days).

That suggests a Thai spouse or dependant Thai child.

 

You can apply for the Non O visa from Immigration based on either of the above situations.
You require 400K in a Thai bank on the day of application.

You must have a minimum of 15 days permission of stay remaining.

 

The annual extension requires the 400K to be seasoned for 2 months prior to the date of submitting the application.

[JAG]

19 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

You do not need to obtain Non O retirement in UK.

In fact you could have obtained a Non O retirement from visa exempt entry to Thailand.

 

Process outlined in this thread 

https://aseannow.com/topic/1311886-visa-exempt-to-retirement-extension-process-and-cost/

 

Can you satisfy the financial requirements.

If not use an agent. 

As for Savannakhet that is now e-Visa application. I would avoid that. 

 

 

 

18 hours ago, Liquorice said:

That suggests a Thai spouse or dependant Thai child.

 

You can apply for the Non O visa from Immigration based on either of the above situations.
You require 400K in a Thai bank on the day of application.

You must have a minimum of 15 days permission of stay remaining.

 

The annual extension requires the 400K to be seasoned for 2 months prior to the date of submitting the application.

Thank you, both of you, for your responses. 

 

I am aware of the process for applying for a Non O retirement using the processes you outline. I am also aware of the "various options" offered by agents.

 

For my own reasons I wish to apply for a Non O single entry (90 day) visa, from my local immigration office, in June. I will then convert that to a retirement extension a couple of months later.

 

Cursory reading of the rules indicate that is possible, I simply ask if anyone has the knowledge to confirm or deny that; and ask are there any other requirements other than having to show documents that prove parenthood, and having B20000 in the bank when you apply.

 

[DrJack54]

18 minutes ago, JAG said:

I simply ask if anyone has the knowledge to confirm or deny that; and ask are there any other requirements other than having to show documents that prove parenthood, and having B20000 in the bank when you apply.

Don't follow your post 

You state that you understand the process for obtaining Non O retirement at local immigration office.

You mention "prove parenthood"....?

You mention Retirement 

You mention 20k...?

Are you applying for Non O based on retirement or parent of Thai child.

Don't know why you even mentioned child.

 

For Non O retirement from visa exempt entry you require 800k in Thai bank account in your name only on day of application.

Funds need to be shown from abroad.

Other items such at TM87 etc

 

The Non O provides a 90 day stamp.

In last 30 days with funds having been in bank for 2 months you apply for 12 months extension. 

After the extension is granted there is ongoing financial compliance.

 

[JAG]

17 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Don't follow your post 

You state that you understand the process for obtaining Non O retirement at local immigration office.

You mention "prove parenthood"....?

You mention Retirement 

You mention 20k...?

Are you applying for Non O based on retirement or parent of Thai child.

Don't know why you even mentioned child.

 

For Non O retirement from visa exempt entry you require 800k in Thai bank account in your name only on day of application.

Funds need to be shown from abroad.

Other items such at TM87 etc

 

The Non O provides a 90 day stamp.

In last 30 days with funds having been in bank for 2 months you apply for 12 months extension. 

After the extension is granted there is ongoing financial compliance.

 

I plan:

 

1) to extend my current visa waiver entry in early June.

 

2) to obtain a 90 day Non O Visa shortly after that. I have a Thai child. I won't be able to show B800,000 in the bank, seasoned or not seasoned. That is why I need to know, are there any financial requirements beyond the application fee and having B20000 in the bank for that visa. If there are, then I will obviously have to change my plan. The Immigration Rules are, at least to me, unclear on that

 

3) to obtain an extension, based on retirement, two months or so later, at Which point I will be able to fulfill the financial requirement.

 

So in summary, can I obtain a Non O 90 day visa, based on being the father of a child, from an Immigration Office here in Thailand, on production of proof of parenthood (birth certificate) and B20,000 in the bank?

 

I will worry about the conversion to retirement later.

 

 

[Liquorice]

58 minutes ago, JAG said:

Cursory reading of the rules indicate that is possible, I simply ask if anyone has the knowledge to confirm or deny that; and ask are there any other requirements other than having to show documents that prove parenthood, and having B20000 in the bank when you apply.

I'm assuming you intend to apply for the Non O based on Thai child rather than retirement, as your posts are rather confusing as for which reason you intend to apply.

I also have no idea where you got the figure of 20,000 BHT as a requirement

For the Non O based on retirement, the financial requirement is 800,000 BHT.
For the Non O based on Thai child, the financial requirement is 400,000 BHT.

In either case, you must have at least 15 days permission of stay remaining for processing of the application.
You can apply for a 30-day extension to give you more time.

 

You posted further as I was writing;

15 minutes ago, JAG said:

So in summary, can I obtain a Non O 90 day visa, based on being the father of a child, from an Immigration Office here in Thailand, on production of proof of parenthood (birth certificate) and B20,000 in the bank?

No.

The financial requirement for the Non O based on Thai child is 400,000 BHT. I have no idea where you obtained the figure of 20,000 BHT.
The requirements are listed in item 7 here: https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/issuing-and-changing-type-of-visa/

Where is the Mother?
Was the child born in wedlock?

You being named as the Father on a child's birth certificate alone is not sufficient proof if the child was born out of wedlock.

Note, you must have parental responsibility and the child must reside with you as a condition.

 

If you can advise on your marital status, we may better advise.

[Liquorice]

@JAG

From what you've posted, the option of a Non O based on retirement may be possible, dependent on when the 800K THB will be deposited in a Thai bank.
You currently have permission of stay until the beginning of May, and a 30-day extension will take you to the beginning of June.
A border run and further VE entry would grant a further 30/60 day stay + 30 day extension taking you to at least the end of July, beginning of August.
Hopefully, you would then have the sufficient funds in a Thai bank account.

 

To apply for the Non O based on retirement, the 800K only needs to be in the account on the day of the application for the Non O.
Requirements, item 9 on this page. https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/issuing-and-changing-type-of-visa/

 

If you apply for the Non O, the 1-year extension must be based on the reason.
You cannot change mid-stream applying for the Non O based on retirement and the 1-year extension based on Thai child for example.

 

Certain Immigration offices have rogue requirements that don't comply with what's stated. Which office would you apply?

[JAG]

27 minutes ago, Liquorice said:

If you apply for the Non O, the 1-year extension must be based on the reason.
You cannot change mid-stream applying for the Non O based on retirement and the 1-year extension based on Thai child for example.

 

Certain Immigration offices have rogue requirements that don't comply with what's stated. Which office would you apply?

That answers, indirectly, my question, thank you.

 

I live in Chiang Rai.

[Liquorice]

6 minutes ago, JAG said:

That answers, indirectly, my question, thank you.

 

I live in Chiang Rai.

I don't recall reading any reports of CR operating rogue procedures.

You should be able to proceed using the Immigration information I posted without any deviations to the requirements.

[Old Farang]

On 4/16/2025 at 7:26 PM, JAG said:

I am currently in Thailand on a visa waiver entry.

I have been here for over 12 years. initially on a series of Non O multiple entry visas from Savannakhet, then when COVID struck I obtained a retirement extension. Then due to a debilitating injury, and subsequent extensive hospital stays and surgeries I was unable to renew the extension. At my local Immigration Office suggestion I have been using Visa Waiver entry, each extended by up to 3 months (30 days and then 60 days). Living near Chiang Khong border "in/outs were very easy. Chiang Khong has lately become increasingly difficult, requiring a 2 day stay in Laos. Last weekend I flew to KL and back, my local IO advised me the airport woud be no problem. Don Muang immigration pulled me over however. The officer was very helpful, sympathetic,  considered all the circumstances, medical, daughter at university, and so forth, but firmly advised me that this entry would likely be the last one I was allowed. We talked about getting a visa, and had an interesting conversation on the options.

 

Anyway, this tale of woe aside, I need to start by getting a 90 day Non O ( or possibly a tourist visa). Can anyone advise me, are they still available from Savannakhet, or even in Thailand? I really don't want to travel to UK if I can help it.

 

 

I just looked at TDAC application, and Thailand now shows up for place of residence, but still confused with some of the requirements, I have a Non O for 12 years, going to /America for 2 weeks then returning, reside here, thanks

[DrJack54]

1 hour ago, Old Farang said:

just looked at TDAC application, and Thailand now shows up for place of residence, but still confused with some of the requirements, I have a Non O for 12 years, going to /America for 2 weeks then returning, reside here, thanks

TDAC has nothing to do with this thread.

In any event for country of residence you can put Thailand or USA.

It's irrelevant information.