Bkk Brian Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Ah Nick, we’re back to your repetitive question of ‘Do I support Hamas…?’. We’ve been over this numerous times, on the last occasion which was only a few weeks ago I suggested you commit my answer to memory so as to save us both the time you waste with repeating this question. Since you clearly struggle to remember stuff I’ll remind you again. My view is Hamas are a heinous terrorist organization, guilty of heinous crimes against the people of Israel, Hamas’ heinous and in provoked crimes of October 7 are a product only of their own violent hate filled mindset. They are also guilty of heinous crimes against the people of Palestine. I do not, nor have I ever, supported any act of terrorism or violence by Hamas. I hope that is clear. Do try to commit it to memory, though I expect you’ll soon be repeating the question I have answered numerous times. Its a thing with you. He was referring to the rockets from Hezbollah. That is not Hamas
Nick Carter icp Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Ah Nick, we’re back to your repetitive question of ‘Do I support Hamas…?’. We’ve been over this numerous times, on the last occasion which was only a few weeks ago I suggested you commit my answer to memory so as to save us both the time you waste with repeating this question. Since you clearly struggle to remember stuff I’ll remind you again. My view is Hamas are a heinous terrorist organization, guilty of heinous crimes against the people of Israel, Hamas’ heinous and in provoked crimes of October 7 are a product only of their own violent hate filled mindset. They are also guilty of heinous crimes against the people of Palestine. I do not, nor have I ever, supported any act of terrorism or violence by Hamas. I hope that is clear. Do try to commit it to memory, though I expect you’ll soon be repeating the question I have answered numerous times. Its a thing with you. We aren't talking about Hamas though . I haven't even mentioned the EDF, sorry, I meant I haven't even mentioned Hamas . We are now talking bout Hezbollah . Just like the EDL and the EDF , I suppose it confuses you when two different groups names begins with the same first letter . Hamas in Gaza Hezbollah in Lebanon . EDF, French power company EDL , English defence league So, should Hezbollah be allowed to continue firing rockets into Israel as they have been doing for number of years or should Israel take steps to stop them ? Do you support both sides in the war again ?
Social Media Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago @Jeff the Chef a way off topic article has been removed along with reponses to it. No further attempts to hijack the topic please Israel Vows to Keep Troops in Security Zones Across Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria
Chomper Higgot Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: We aren't talking about Hamas though . I haven't even mentioned the EDF, sorry, I meant I haven't even mentioned Hamas . We are now talking bout Hezbollah . Just like the EDL and the EDF , I suppose it confuses you when two different groups names begins with the same first letter . Hamas in Gaza Hezbollah in Lebanon . EDF, French power company EDL , English defence league So, should Hezbollah be allowed to continue firing rockets into Israel as they have been doing for number of years or should Israel take steps to stop them ? Do you support both sides in the war again ? Forgive me Nick, I hate Hamas so much I sometimes just can’t help expressing my contempt for them. How’s this?: I don’t support the terrorist organization Hezbollah or any of the terrorist acts committed by Hezbollah. I do not now nor have I ever supported any terrorist organization, or any terrorist acts by any terrorist organization. You now add another question which you have previously asked and which I have previously answered, I will do you the curtesy of once again answering your repeated question, but ask you commit my answer to memory: The people of Israel have the unequivocal right to live peacefully and in safety, I fully support the State of Israel’s right and duty to defend the territory of Israel and the people of Israel against all aggressors, be they other States, armed agents of other States and/or Terrorists. However, my support of Israel’s right to defend itself (like my support of any State) does does not extend to Israel committing war crimes or anything that might reasonably considered a war crime. I do not support Israel bulldozing homes and farms outwith Israel’s internationally recognized borders, dispossessing and expelling the occupants. This to me meets the definition of both land grab and ethnic cleansing. I do not support Israel seizing land in Lebanon, Gaza or Syria, I consider it all to be a land grab. I do support the right of Israel to bulldoze homes and farms within Israel’s own borders in order to create security zone, though I would not support the Israeli State seizing the land and property of its own citizens without due process and compensation to those effected. I do hope that’s both clear and back to topic.
Nick Carter icp Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Forgive me Nick, I hate Hamas so much I sometimes just can’t help expressing my contempt for them. How’s this?: I don’t support the terrorist organization Hezbollah or any of the terrorist acts committed by Hezbollah. I do not now nor have I ever supported any terrorist organization, or any terrorist acts by any terrorist organization. You now add another question which you have previously asked and which I have previously answered, I will do you the curtesy of once again answering your repeated question, but ask you commit my answer to memory: The people of Israel have the unequivocal right to live peacefully and in safety, I fully support the State of Israel’s right and duty to defend the territory of Israel and the people of Israel against all aggressors, be they other States, armed agents of other States and/or Terrorists. However, my support of Israel’s right to defend itself (like my support of any State) does does not extend to Israel committing war crimes or anything that might reasonably considered a war crime. I do not support Israel bulldozing homes and farms, dispossessing and expelling the occupants. This to me meets the definition of both land grab and ethnic cleansing. I do not support Israel seizing land in Lebanon, Gaza or Syria, I consider it all to be a land grab. I do support the right of Israel to bulldoze homes and farms within Israel’s own borders in order to create security zone, though I would not support the Israeli State seizing the land and property of its own citizens without due process and compensation to those effected. I do hope that’s both clear and back to topic. Its you who has gone off topic and you didn't address my question . Hezbollah have been firing rockets into Israel (from Lebanon) for the last five or so years and now the IDF have gone into Lebanon to stop the rocket attacks . Do you support the IDF putting a stop to the rocket attacks or should Hezbollah be allowed to continue attacking Israel ? (^ That is the topic of this thread , this thread isn't about bulldozing home ) Going from your reply above : You oppose Hezbollah attacking Israel and you also oppose Israel responding to the Hezbollah attacks 1
Bkk Brian Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Forgive me Nick, I hate Hamas so much I sometimes just can’t help expressing my contempt for them. How’s this?: I don’t support the terrorist organization Hezbollah or any of the terrorist acts committed by Hezbollah. I do not now nor have I ever supported any terrorist organization, or any terrorist acts by any terrorist organization. You now add another question which you have previously asked and which I have previously answered, I will do you the curtesy of once again answering your repeated question, but ask you commit my answer to memory: The people of Israel have the unequivocal right to live peacefully and in safety, I fully support the State of Israel’s right and duty to defend the territory of Israel and the people of Israel against all aggressors, be they other States, armed agents of other States and/or Terrorists. However, my support of Israel’s right to defend itself (like my support of any State) does does not extend to Israel committing war crimes or anything that might reasonably considered a war crime. I do not support Israel bulldozing homes and farms outwith Israel’s internationally recognized borders, dispossessing and expelling the occupants. This to me meets the definition of both land grab and ethnic cleansing. I do not support Israel seizing land in Lebanon, Gaza or Syria, I consider it all to be a land grab. I do support the right of Israel to bulldoze homes and farms within Israel’s own borders in order to create security zone, though I would not support the Israeli State seizing the land and property of its own citizens without due process and compensation to those effected. I do hope that’s both clear and back to topic. I do not support Israel bulldozing homes and farms outwith Israel’s internationally recognized borders, dispossessing and expelling the occupants. This to me meets the definition of both land grab and ethnic cleansing. I do not support Israel seizing land in Lebanon, Gaza or Syria, I consider it all to be a land grab. The UN failed. So how do they stop the rockets from Hezbollah without being there and having a buffer zone? How do they stop jihadist forces moving into the buffer zone that separates Syria from Israel? Israel has promised another Oct 7th will never happen again. If it did you do you think would be blamed? Can you show me links to the ethnic cleansing that you are claiming in the above? You can't because its false inflammatory claims. Israel has been offering residents of southern Syria near the border the opportunity to work in Israel while tempting them with attractive wages, the Saudi news network Al-Arabiya reported Monday. https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-reportedly-offering-syrians-from-buffer-zone-to-work-in-israel/
Chomper Higgot Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said: Its you who has gone off topic and you didn't address my question . Hezbollah have been firing rockets into Israel (from Lebanon) for the last five or so years and now the IDF have gone into Lebanon to stop the rocket attacks . Do you support the IDF putting a stop to the rocket attacks or should Hezbollah be allowed to continue attacking Israel ? (^ That is the topic of this thread , this thread isn't about bulldozing home ) Going from your reply above : You oppose Hezbollah attacking Israel and you also oppose Israel responding to the Hezbollah attacks What part of “I don’t support the terrorist organization Hezbollah or any of the terrorist acts committed by Hezbollah.” Do you not understand? I don’t confuse ‘stated aims or a policy’ with ‘outcome of a policy’. I doubt very much Israel’s land grab will stop Hezbollah firing rockets into Israel. I suspect it will only escalate the conflict. Israel has created this security zone by bulldozing the homes and farms of people outwith Israel’s borders. I have provided a link to Israeli military personnel reporting these events, once again appended below. I understand you don’t want to discuss that fact. https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/gazas-perimeter-death-zone/ “ Going from your reply above : You oppose Hezbollah attacking Israel and you also oppose Israel responding to the Hezbollah attacks ” I have underlined where you misrepresent my views. Given the clarity of my statement I can only assume your misrepresentation of what the are is deliberate. I believe it’s called trolling.
Bkk Brian Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: What part of “I don’t support the terrorist organization Hezbollah or any of the terrorist acts committed by Hezbollah.” Do you not understand? I don’t confuse ‘stated aims or a policy’ with ‘outcome of a policy’. I doubt very much Israel’s land grab will stop Hezbollah firing rockets into Israel. I suspect it will only escalate the conflict. Israel has created this security zone by bulldozing the homes and farms of people outwith Israel’s borders. I have provided a link to Israeli military personnel reporting these events, once again appended below. I understand you don’t want to discuss that fact. https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/gazas-perimeter-death-zone/ “ Going from your reply above : You oppose Hezbollah attacking Israel and you also oppose Israel responding to the Hezbollah attacks ” I have underlined where you misrepresent my views. Given the clarity of my statement I can only assume your misrepresentation of what the are is deliberate. I believe it’s called trolling. What don't you understand that your claims of ethnic cleansing that I pointed out are false and inflammatory? What don't you understand that without those buffer zones the rockets will keep coming? The IDF says more than 140 terrorists were eliminated in Lebanon while violating the ceasefire agreement and posing a threat to Israel and Israeli forces 1
Nick Carter icp Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 30 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: What part of “I don’t support the terrorist organization Hezbollah or any of the terrorist acts committed by Hezbollah.” Do you not understand? OK , so you oppose Hezbollah firing rockets into Israel , but you also oppose Israel trying to stop those rockets being fired . The fact is that Hezbollah continue to fire rockets into Israel and Israel needs to take measures to stop those rockets . Not wanting Hezbollah's rockets from being stopped is showing support for them
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