Why is there this kind of "impossible communication" between farang and thais ?

[Magictoad]

Because of the cultural differences. Farangs are more bombastic.

[SAFETY FIRST]

On 4/28/2025 at 9:56 AM, Aurelien said:

Don't get me wrong, Thais are lovely when they hold business transactions in stores, in the streets, in taxis... the cleaner lady says hello to me everytime i see her in the hallway.. but if you're not in their 'perimeter' anymore, you're like air to them. 
I'm at the supermarket, i want to buy broccolis. In front of me are a couple of Thais, and the vegetable lady spontaneously holds them plastic bags so they can wrap the broccolis inside them. Come my turn, I'm being ignored... I had to come to the vegetable lady, and point to the plastic bag. "Saitong, nung krap". I had to repeat several times until she finally decided to give one to me. 
I enter the pharmacy at the same time as Thais. Thais are directly being greated and served. "Hello, how can i help you?" I very distinctely put myself against a counter, clearly indicating that i need something, but no employee would come to me. Everybody see me, but nobody comes. I had to wait until the Thais were done, that finally and employeed comes to serve me. Speaking in good English too. In fact, I know all their staff speak good English, as I go there often.
Down my condo is a mini mart i go to every few days to buy cigarettes. The employee, a young Thai man, seems very happy to see me everytime, big smiles, kindness, chit chat etc... I'm walking down the street, see him walking as well, and thought "oh, our paths are going to cross, we'll probably greet each other". Once we cross, I look at him, just waiving my hand slighlty to say hello, and he doesn't even look at me like...so weird. There's no way he didn't see me, or even if he's shy he could just waive his head and that's it...
I know this is trivial and it probably doesn't apply in the most tourist based areas of the cities, but once a little outside of the usual hustle and bustle, and the behavior of Thais change drastically I found...

Times have changed, your expectations are too high. 20 years ago things were different, very different, we were treated like KINGS. 

 

Sadly, so many disrespectful, nasty foreigners arriving now. 

 

Thai's are fed up. 

 

[Chris Daley]

I prefer to be ignored and have to ask than be surrounded by men trying to sell me something.

 

In Egypt a man will litterly come and stand beside you the entire time.  Just to make sure you aren't nicking.  And in India they crowd around you and shout in your face.

 

Thailand is great.  They have zero business sense.  Just sit in a urine soaked hut, no shop name, and ignore everyone.

[Furioso]

I can understand the Thais have been overwhelmed by too many millions of tourists. I think it's called "overshoot".  I now see these huge mega condo buildings being built Im thinking it's going to get much worse.

 

It's Asia, it's crowded at least there's a pulse of life instead of the soulless west but I think I can only do 4 - 5 months a year from here on out.

[BritManToo]

13 hours ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Times have changed, your expectations are too high. 20 years ago things were different, very different, we were treated like KINGS. 

Sadly, so many disrespectful, nasty foreigners arriving now. 

Thai's are fed up. 

Don't think it's anything to do with foreigners, most Thais don't even think about white foreigners.

Obviously they think about Laos, Burmese and Cambodian foreigners who do all their low level work.

 

'Fed up' is the way the whole world is going.

[SAFETY FIRST]

10 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Don't think it's anything to do with foreigners, most Thais don't even think about white foreigners.

Obviously they think about Laos, Burmese and Cambodian foreigners who do all their low level work.

 

'Fed up' is the way the whole world is going.

I've seen it 1st hand.

 

Pattaya has been my home over 20 years.

 

Immigration office back when it was located soi 8, used to be friendly, very friendly.

Land office, Suksubai, now located Laem Chabung, it was a very friendly department. 

City Hall, was extremely friendly, still not too bad. 

 

Now the staff at these government offices are hostile, rude at times.

 

You can blame the YouTubers. 

 

Dan about Thailand, broke down the monthly living costs for an expat looking to relocate to Thailand, he came up with rediculous figures, 30k baht a month. Who can live a quality life on that budget. Dan has attracted all the penny less miserable, moaning Brits to come here. 

 

 

It's the nasty, disrespectful, abusive foreigners, that has changed the Thai's attitude towards us, NO DOUBT. 

[BritManToo]

28 minutes ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

I've seen it 1st hand.

Pattaya has been my home over 20 years.

Pattaya (and Phuket) are very small and inconsequential IMHO.

If you build an areas industry on alcohol and prostitution, you can't expect to be surrounded by nice people. 

[SAFETY FIRST]

5 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Pattaya (and Phuket) are very small and inconsequential IMHO.

If you build an areas industry on alcohol and prostitution, you can't expect it to be surrounded by nice people. 

I understand your point. 

I can only comment regarding what I've seen. 

 

I remember reading you're located regionally, it's very different to Pattaya 

[Furioso]

32 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

 

If you build an areas industry on alcohol and prostitution, you can't expect to be surrounded by nice people. 

Bingo, were not surrounded by a healthy bunch of well adjusted winners.

[rabang]

On 4/29/2025 at 10:44 PM, Furioso said:

I just arrived in Da Nang(my 3rd trip) from Bangkok a couple hours ago. I can see a big difference. It's not nearly as crowded nor overwhelming. The roads and side walks are wider and much easier to get around. Weather about six degrees cooler (for now) and it doesn't seem to have as much air pollution but maybe it's a different type, maybe worse.

 

Da Nang is much more laid back, not amped up to 15 on a 10 scale. There are many tourists here but just the right amount so they're not completely overworked and jaded. 

 

In short it looks like moderation wins again. 

 

 

It is a nice place at least for a short visit. First time I was there only 10 years ago and was treated like a true alien, sometimes in a good and sometimes in a bad way. Now it is very touristy in comparison to those times, although nothing compared to much of Thailand.

[GammaGlobulin]

On 4/28/2025 at 9:56 AM, Aurelien said:

Don't get me wrong

 

I don't get you wrong.

I get you right.

 

I am not mistaken.

This, I know.

 

[GammaGlobulin]

On 4/29/2025 at 2:18 PM, quake said:

This is all very  exciting.

 

 

You need sleep, Sir.

 

Sleep is what you need, most.

 

Sleep.....