Diddy’s Dark Double Life: Trial Hears Disturbing Allegations of Abuse and Sex Trafficking

[RayC]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Not legally, but morally it is quite a difference if you're talking about an 8 year old who truly cannot consent properly, or a 16 year old who normally  would have a very clearly idea that banging a rapper in a foursome is not a good idea.

 

Whilst I personally think Coombs probably did have sex iwth Gardner when she was 16, that event happened 30 years ago. To prove it would be nigh on impossible. It'd be her word against Coombs. Much like in the Trump trial.

 

Whether Combs' is guilty of sex trafficking and racketeering remains to be seen, but there is overwhelming evidence that he is guilty of domestic violence amongst other things (yes, I know that he is not charged with that). In short, he's a nasty bit of work.

 

And yet you defend this man, attempt to lay the blame on the victims and even imply that somehow, Combs hadn't broken any moral code. Unbelievable! You clearly have no respect for women and feel that their only purpose is to be used by men.

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The age of consent in other countries is an irrelevance, under the applicable laws a 16 year old cannot consent to sec with an adult.

 

That’s not a legal fiction, it’s a legal fact.

 

 

No, it's a legal construct. Even if the 16 year old consented the law draws an arbitrary line and says she can't. When in reality she did consent. 

 

The fact that the age of consent is 16 or below 16 in other jurisdictions should top you off that this just a legal construct. A legal fiction. 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No, it's a legal construct. Even if the 16 year old consented the law draws an arbitrary line and says she can't. When in reality she did consent. 

 

The fact that the age of consent is 16 or below 16 in other jurisdictions should top you off that this just a legal construct. A legal fiction. 

You’re talking utter garbage.

 

Under the  applicable laws a 16 year old cannot consent to sex with an adult. 
 

That is a legal fact.

 

 

[Cameroni]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’re talking utter garbage.

 

Under the  applicable laws a 16 year old cannot consent to sex with an adult. 
 

That is a legal fact.

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’re talking utter garbage.

 

Under the  applicable laws a 16 year old cannot consent to sex with an adult. 
 

That is a legal fact.

 

 

Actually you're talking garbage. You fail to understand that in reality Gardner could and probably did consent. It's only a legal fiction which makes it a rape, the law declaring that you can't consent, even when you did. 

 

It's a legal alternate reality that's arbitrarily constructed 

[Chomper Higgot]

18 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Actually you're talking garbage. You fail to understand that in reality Gardner could and probably did consent. It's only a legal fiction which makes it a rape, the law declaring that you can't consent, even when you did. 

 

It's a legal alternate reality that's arbitrarily constructed 

Here’s a few more facts:

 

The law exists

The law determines what you may or may not do while under its jurisdiction.

The  law excludes 16 year olds giving consent to sex with an adult.

The law includes prison sentences for adults engaging in sex with minors.

 

Regardless of any wish you might have to the contrary, those laws and those prison sentences are real.

 

 

 

 

[theshu25]

51 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Here’s a few more facts:

 

The law exists

The law determines what you may or may not do while under its jurisdiction.

The  law excludes 16 year olds giving consent to sex with an adult.

The law includes prison sentences for adults engaging in sex with minors.

 

Regardless of any wish you might have to the contrary, those laws and those prison sentences are real.

 

 

 

 

You are wasting your time arguing with a know it all, when he is wrong on so mnay counts. the guy has no moral compass at all obviousy.

[Tug]

Why waste time with this violent sexual predator lock his ass up and forget about him.

[Cameroni]

3 hours ago, RayC said:

And yet you defend this man, attempt to lay the blame on the victims and even imply that somehow, Combs hadn't broken any moral code

 

Well, even if Casandra Ventura was a victim of domestic assault, Coombs compensated her with 20 million dollars for this assault in which she sustained very minor injuries.

 

What else did he do? Potentially he slept with a 16 year old, so statutory rape and possibly another sexual assault/rape with a 3rd woman.

 

Now, these things, if all true, are bad clearly.  However, this man's life is completely ruined and he could potentially rot in jail for offences, which other men, would have got relatively light sentences for.

 

And let's not forget, this kidnapping charge by the prosecution is total fantasy, clearly trumped up.

 

To some extent Coombs is the victim of trumped up charges here. Yes, he committed an assault, he paid 20 million USD for it, possibly two more sexual assault, and he lked to party and paid prostitutes. But to ruin his whole life, and lock him  up for 20 plus years for this? How is this justice?

 

Surely Coombs is a victim here, whereas Casandra Ventura made 20 million off of Coombs and then disregarded the agreement and became the star witness of the prosecution.  Coombs already paid for that assault, now he has to face huge prison time and have his life taken away? For some relatively minor transgressions? Doesn't seem fair.

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The law exists

The law determines what you may or may not do while under its jurisdiction.

The  law excludes 16 year olds giving consent to sex with an adult.

The law includes prison sentences for adults engaging in sex with minors.

 

Yes, well done, the law exists. But it creates artificial constructs that do not reflect reality, like the fiction that a 17 year old cannot consent to sex, when we all know they can in actual reality. 

 

The fact that many jurisdictions around the world allow 16 year olds and even 15 year olds to consent to sex, should tip you off that the law you speak of is not an objective reality. It's a legal fiction created by the law for policy reasons, to curtail certain behaviours. But everyone knows a 17 year old can consent to sex, even if the law claims the opposite.

[RayC]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Well, even if Casandra Ventura was a victim of domestic assault, Coombs compensated her with 20 million dollars for this assault in which she sustained very minor injuries.

 

So that makes it right?

 

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

What else did he do? Potentially he slept with a 16 year old, so statutory rape and possibly another sexual assault/rape with a 3rd woman.

 

Now, these things, if all true, are bad clearly.

 

You should have stopped there.

 

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

  However, this man's life is completely ruined and he could potentially rot in jail for offences, which other men, would have got relatively light sentences for.

 

Really? Other men would have got "relatively light sentences" if found guilty of statutory rape and sexual assault?

 

I am not that familiar with the US legal system but if what you say is true, then imo it is seriously flawed.

 

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

And let's not forget, this kidnapping charge by the prosecution is total fantasy, clearly trumped up.

 

I assume that you mean the sex trafficking charge? You are displaying your bias given that the evidence has yet to be heard in court.

 

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

To some extent Coombs is the victim of trumped up charges here.

 

You are asking us to feel sorry for Combs!?

 

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, he committed an assault, he paid 20 million USD for it, possibly two more sexual assault, and he lked to party and paid prostitutes. But to ruin his whole life, and lock him  up for 20 plus years for this? How is this justice?

 

You are again asking us to feel sorry for Combs?

 

You have answered your own question. I suggest that you reread your first five words of what you wrote.

 

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Surely Coombs is a victim here,

 

Yet again, you portray Combs as the victim. Unbelievable!

 

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

whereas Casandra Ventura made 20 million off of Coombs and then disregarded the agreement and became the star witness of the prosecution.

 

So Ventura should be vilified and what else? Subject to prosecution?

 

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

  Coombs already paid for that assault, now he has to face huge prison time and have his life taken away? For some relatively minor transgressions? Doesn't seem fair.

 

I really hope that you are posting these words as a wind-up. If so, I consider it  tasteless and misplaced. However, if you are actually serious then I have no words.

[Chomper Higgot]

51 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Yes, well done, the law exists. But it creates artificial constructs that do not reflect reality, like the fiction that a 17 year old cannot consent to sex, when we all know they can in actual reality. 

 

The fact that many jurisdictions around the world allow 16 year olds and even 15 year olds to consent to sex, should tip you off that the law you speak of is not an objective reality. It's a legal fiction created by the law for policy reasons, to curtail certain behaviours. But everyone knows a 17 year old can consent to sex, even if the law claims the opposite.

Don’t ever rely on that as a line of defense.

 

 

[Cameroni]

39 minutes ago, RayC said:

So that makes it right?

 

The assault looked bad clearlyl. However, the injuries Ms Ventura sustained were relatively minor.  Normally a sentence for that would not be very onerous. Paying 20 million would have compensated Ms Ventura amply for her suffering, even victims of serious incidents who lost a leg get a fraction of that.

 

41 minutes ago, RayC said:

Really? Other men would have got "relatively light sentences" if found guilty of statutory rape and sexual assault?

 

For common assault a community order is often given in the US. The assault we saw in the video was merely common assault as Coombs did not have a weapon and did not cause serious bodily injury.

 

In the UK for common assault the maximum (!) sentence is 6 months.

 

In statutory rape the age of the victim is relevant, and Ms Gardner was already 16 at the time of her gangbang. 

 

For abusive sexual contact in the US the average sentence is 27 months.

 

Coombs is facing a concoction many times over these average sentences.

 

46 minutes ago, RayC said:

I assume that you mean the sex trafficking charge? You are displaying your bias given that the evidence has yet to be heard in court.

 

No the kidnapping charge, it is common knowledge that US prosecution tactically use "trafficking" when they are out to get someone. This is a very common practice. Very obviously Coombs didn't kidnap or traffic anybody.

 

47 minutes ago, RayC said:

You are asking us to feel sorry for Combs!?

 

You don't have to of course, but I do kind of feel sorry for him, because his appetite for women has caused this billionaire to have his whole life slip away from him, for some offences that were bad yes, but hardly what the prosecution would have us believe.

 

48 minutes ago, RayC said:

So Ventura should be vilified and what else?

 

Think about it, she was a nobody, Coombs signed her to his label. He made her famous, he spent millions on her, and made her his girlfriend for 11 years. She repaid him by cheating on him, sleeping with his personal trainer with whom she is pregnant now, extorting him and getting 20 million USD, and then instead of keeping to that agreement she agrees to be the star witness to bring Coombs down. It's pretty despicable, considering she voluntarily participated in the freak offs, as she said herself.

 

50 minutes ago, RayC said:

I really hope that you are posting these words as a wind-up.

 

No, clearly Coombs is being unfairly treated and is facing some very trumped up charges. He's no angel, but what they're doing to him is over the top.

[Cameroni]

Wow, Casandra Ventura admits cheating on Sean Coombs in court:

 

"Cassie said Diddy found out that she had been dating Kid Cudi after going through her phone following a Freak Off in Los Angeles in 2011.

'It was a time when we were not in the greatest place,' Cassie said of her relationship with Diddy.

Cassie said after the assault she used a burner phone to call Cudi, who then picked her up.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14715515/diddy-rape-lawsuit-trial-live-updates-cassie-ventura-sean-combs-video.html

 

I'd say this Casandra Ventura is even worse than Amber Heard. By many levels of magnitude.

[MalcolmB]

13 hours ago, Jim Blue said:

Yes unlike those bastions of moral virtue like John and Robert Kennedy !

And Trump.

Poof Diddys best chance of freedom is a presidential pardon. Buying some Trumpcoin should do the trick, Trump can call it a witch hunt and fake news.

[MalcolmB]

2 hours ago, Tug said:

Why waste time with this violent sexual predator lock his ass up and forget about him.

Poof Daddy is quite fond of boys also so he will enjoy the fresh meat that passes through the prison system.

[Cameroni]

Diddy's ex-girlfriend Cassie Ventura told rapper in text messages she was 'always ready' to take part in 'Freak Offs', court hears

 

 

The ex-girlfriend of Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs told him in text messages that she was ‘always ready’ to take part in sex parties, a court heard yesterday.

Casandra ‘Cassie’ Ventura, 38, told the rapper ‘I just want it to be uncontrollable’ while discussing one of the so-called ‘Freak Offs’ where she had sex with a male escort in front of him, jurors were told.

In other texts the R&B singer told Combs that she ‘never felt so loved, safe, empowered’ as when she was with him and that she felt ‘protected when I’m in your arms’.

 

 

Ms Ventura said she dumped Combs in 2015 after seeing a video of him and a woman called Gina at an event while she was on a film set in South Africa.

She said Combs suspected she got together with Jordan, who was in Cape Town at the same time. Ms Ventura said she ‘wasn’t there’ to see how Combs reacted when he found out about her relationship with Jordan. Ms Ventura and Combs eventually patched things up and stayed together until 2018.

 

In a civil lawsuit she filed against Combs in 2023, Ms Ventura said she began a ‘flirtatious relationship’ with Jordan while she was in South Africa – and that they did have an affair.

‘She spent New Year’s Eve with this actor but Mr Combs soon found out,’ the lawsuit stated. ‘Mr Combs called the actor and threatened him. 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14717929/Diddys-Cassie-Ventura-text-messages-Freak-Offs-court.html

 

So  she cheated on him more than once.

 

Note: She wanted the Freak Offs to be "uncontrollable". Feminine nature = Chaos.

[Cameroni]

When Ventura was asked about the texts where she clearly stated she was always ready for Freak Offs and enjoyed Freak Offs, Ventura replied: "Those were just words".

 

So remember, when a woman tells you she loves something, those are.....just words.

[BritManToo]

20 hours ago, RayC said:

 

Whether Combs' is guilty of sex trafficking and racketeering remains to be seen, but there is overwhelming evidence that he is guilty of domestic violence amongst other things (yes, I know that he is not charged with that). In short, he's a nasty bit of work.

 

And yet you defend this man, attempt to lay the blame on the victims and even imply that somehow, Combs hadn't broken any moral code. Unbelievable! You clearly have no respect for women and feel that their only purpose is to be used by men.

She stayed with him 20 years, had countless lovers that would have wanted to save her, took $20M from him, and now 7 years after they parted wants him in jail.

 

Video showing minor domestic violence, community service at worst.

[Cameroni]

12 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

She stayed with him 20 years, had countless lovers that would have wanted to save her, took $20M from him, and now 7 years after they parted wants him in jail.

 

Video showing minor domestic violence, community service at worst.

 

It's remarkable how similar the Amber Heard take down of Johnny Depp is to Casandra Ventura's take down of Sean Coombs. Celebrity meets stunning young beauty. Celebrity spends millions on young beauty, who professes she is madly inlove with Celebrity. Young beauty cheats on celebrity, celebrity becomes paranoid and violent. Court case ensues and the most embarassing details about both are aired for all to see.

 

There are differences of course, Casandra Ventura played her hand much better, and made sure she got 20 million USD off of Coombs before she took him down. Heard tried that through a court case and famously failed.

 

Ventura cheated with actor, rapper and personal trainer, whereas Heard cheated with a billionaire. Both got pregnant fairly quickly in old age though.

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

It's remarkable how similar the Amber Heard take down of Johnny Depp is to Casandra Ventura's take down of Sean Coombs. Celebrity meets stunning young beauty. Celebrity spends millions on young beauty, who professes she is madly inlove with Celebrity. Young beauty cheats on celebrity, celebrity becomes paranoid and violent. Court case ensues and the most embarassing details about both are aired for all to see.

 

There are differences of course, Casandra Ventura played her hand much better, and made sure she got 20 million USD off of Coombs before she took him down. Heard tried that through a court case and famously failed.

 

Ventura cheated with actor, rapper and personal trainer, whereas Heard cheated with a billionaire. Both got pregnant fairly quickly in old age though.

Heather McCartney tried the same game, but was vilified on live TV, cos everyone knows Macca is the kindest, most gentle man in the world.

[Cameroni]

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Heather McCartney tried the same game, but was vilified on live TV, cos everyone knows Macca is the kindest, most gentle man in the world.

 

Yes, I remember it well. Angelina Jolie asking the FBI to be harsher on Brad Pitt is another example of female vengeance, this time without a financial motive. Though she did sell the  joint winery to the Russian mafia as well.

 

 

 

[Cameroni]

What this unfolding tale of Sean Coombs' downfall shows is 

 

1) No matter how rich you are, Coombs after all had a net worth in excess of 1 billion USD, no matter how famous you are, a woman will still cheat on you and will still leave you.

 

2) Even if you are a billionaire and famous, a beautiful woman out of nowhere can outsmart you, take your money and ruin your whole life.

 

Has there ever been a better illustration of how important it is to vet your woman for red flags?

[madone]

Dude really is a monster, having his PR people usher his kids into court for the optics

[madone]

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

When Ventura was asked about the texts where she clearly stated she was always ready for Freak Offs and enjoyed Freak Offs, Ventura replied: "Those were just words".

 

So remember, when a woman tells you she loves something, those are.....just words.

 

yes, she is the villain here.

Trying to draw parallels between depp and diddy is ridiculous. One was a drunken cuck, the other a very premeditated predator and a violent criminal. The differ by magnitudes.   

[madone]

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

What this unfolding tale of Sean Coombs' downfall shows is 

 

1) No matter how rich you are, Coombs after all had a net worth in excess of 1 billion USD, no matter how famous you are, a woman will still cheat on you and will still leave you.

 

2) Even if you are a billionaire and famous, a beautiful woman out of nowhere can outsmart you, take your money and ruin your whole life.

 

Has there ever been a better illustration of how important it is to vet your woman for red flags?

 

yeah, push that agenda harder

[jas007]

I haven't really followed this story.

 

Are there not some tapes, somewhere, of the parties?  

[Ralf001]

Freak off's sound like fun, will look into it.

[Cameroni]

29 minutes ago, madone said:

 

yes, she is the villain here.

Trying to draw parallels between depp and diddy is ridiculous. One was a drunken cuck, the other a very premeditated predator and a violent criminal. The differ by magnitudes.   

 

Surely Sean Coombs was far more of a cuck, going out of his way to get other guys bang his gf in front of him hundreds of times?

 

His "violent" and "predator" titles have to be qualified anyway, turns out when he beat Casandra Ventura it was out of jealousy and because he was high on drugs, not to coerce her into taking part in Freak Offs. She loved those.

 

Casandra Ventura is most definitely the villain here. She came out of nowhere. Feigned and faked love for Coombs, pretended she luuuuurrved Freak Offs, then cheated on Coombs, three times, and left him. Then extorted him to get 20 million USD, and then STILL took his whole life down.

 

How is she not the villain here?

 

[Cameroni]

16 minutes ago, jas007 said:

I haven't really followed this story.

 

Are there not some tapes, somewhere, of the parties?  

 

There are hundreds of tapes but even the jurors don't get to see them, only photos.

 

The judge also admonished Coombs lawyers to "wrap it up" because Casandra Ventura is heavily pregnant and could give birth any minute.

 

So Coombs clearly getting a fair trial there. Not.

[madone]

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

 

Surely Sean Coombs was far more of a cuck, going out of his way to get other guys bang his gf in front of him hundreds of times?

 

His "violent" and "predator" titles have to be qualified anyway, turns out when he beat Casandra Ventura it was out of jealousy and because he was high on drugs, not to coerce her into taking part in Freak Offs. She loved those.

 

 

 

seems to me you are overlooking a lot of behavior to paint her the villain. 

 

And doesn't the term cuckold infer weakness? 

Is a man who insists a woman sleeps with other men truly a cuckold.