Non O Extension Renewal | Timing and Travel Question

[josephbloggs]

Hi all,

I am currently on a non O extension based on marriage. It expires on July 2.

I have two trips I need to do. One from 23-28 June. One from 7-10 July. Non negotiable as they are not holidays that I can move.

 

When is the best time for me to apply? Should I do it soon and try and get it all complete before the first trip? Or should I do it in between the trips - which can only be 30th June or 1st July and that doesn't give much leeway if there is any issue with paperwork? My main worry of doing it early is that I'll get an "under consideration" stamp, right? (Not sure if that is every renewal or only the first - this is my second). And if the stamp date to come back falls when I am away I imagine that would be an issue. 

If I apply in between my trips and get my "under consideration" can I still travel on the second trip? (Not sure if you can leave the country when under consideration).

Hope that explains everything, and thanks for any experience or advice that anyone can share. Just trying to plan this and really not sure what's best.

 

In visual form:

 

 

[josephbloggs]

15 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Hi all,

I am currently on a non O extension based on marriage. It expires on July 2.

I have two trips I need to do. One from 23-28 June. One from 7-10 July. Non negotiable as they are not holidays that I can move.

 

When is the best time for me to apply? Should I do it soon and try and get it all complete before the first trip? Or should I do it in between the trips - which can only be 30th June or 1st July and that doesn't give much leeway if there is any issue with paperwork? My main worry of doing it early is that I'll get an "under consideration" stamp, right? (Not sure if that is every renewal or only the first - this is my second). And if the stamp date to come back falls when I am away I imagine that would be an issue. 

If I apply in between my trips and get my "under consideration" can I still travel on the second trip? (Not sure if you can leave the country when under consideration).

Hope that explains everything, and thanks for any experience or advice that anyone can share. Just trying to plan this and really not sure what's best.

 

In visual form:

 

 

Looking at the online queue it seems my choices are somewhat limited. So I guess the question now is if I book 16th June what are the chances my date to return after the under consideration period would fall when I am away on my second trip, and what would be the consequences of that?

 

 

[rwilem]

7 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Looking at the online queue it seems my choices are somewhat limited

OK, you are dealing with CW.

You can apply for extension up to 45 days in advance there.

 

From a post in another thread.

"CW starts the under consideration period from the day you apply. If you apply 45 days early you would have have your new extension done,

FYI you can get a re-entry permit for the under consideration period."

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So in theory, if you go in and do your extension on May 29 or 30, you should be OK returning for final approval 30 days later, just after you have gotten back from the first trip.

 

You will need to acquire a fresh re-entry permit for that first trip you would be taking during the under consideration period.

 

Hopefully others with experience with doing their marriage extensions and travel during the under consideration period can offer their knowledge.

 

 

 

[DrJack54]

OP, first up some good advice above.

 

In regards to home visit ...has this been the practice in previous extensions? 

[rwilem]

45 minutes ago, rwilem said:

You will need to acquire a fresh re-entry permit for that first trip you would be taking during the under consideration period.

From my post above. Some guys reported they needed the re-entry permit, some reported, like the following, that they didn't.

Also, note the apply date and return date. More than 30 days, but the date of the expiry of his still-in-effect extension. 

 

"I just did it last month my extension was expiring on 11th April I applied on 5th March at Cheangwattana and was give a return date of 11th April. Immigration officer said my current visa and multi entry re-entry permit remain valid. I went out 13th March and returned 6th April and was given 5 days on my stamp on entry up to my new extension date. Picked up extension on 11th April."

[josephbloggs]

41 minutes ago, rwilem said:

OK, you are dealing with CW.

You can apply for extension up to 45 days in advance there.

 

From a post in another thread.

"CW starts the under consideration period from the day you apply. If you apply 45 days early you would have have your new extension done,

FYI you can get a re-entry permit for the under consideration period."

•  

 

So in theory, if you go in and do your extension on May 29 or 30, you should be OK returning for final approval 30 days later, just after you have gotten back from the first trip.

 

You will need to acquire a fresh re-entry permit for that first trip you would be taking during the under consideration period.

 

Hopefully others with experience with doing their marriage extensions and travel during the under consideration period can offer their knowledge.

 

 

 

Thank you. So to do it 45 days early I would have to go soon but have to resign myself to a lot of waiting as online queue is not available until 12th June at the earliest. But that's ok if that's what I need to do. A day out at CW is always a joy.

I have a multi reentry permit now, so if I get an under consideration that takes me beyond 2nd July (my current expiry) would I need to get a fresh one?

And is the under consideration period always 30 days? Or does it vary? If it was always 30day that would make it easy to plan, but from your other post it seems it can vary, so this is my concern.

My main concern is if the date to come back after under consideration falls when I am away.

[josephbloggs]

29 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

OP, first up some good advice above.

 

In regards to home visit ...has this been the practice in previous extensions? 

On my first renewal last year there was no home visit (using CW).

[DrJack54]

13 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

On my first renewal last year there was no home visit (using CW).

That was my guess. 

As pointed out earlier by @rwilem you have flexible choices given no need to be in Thailand during under consideration period. 

Whatever you opt for be aware you require a reentry permit for period you exit Thailand. 

The under consideration period at CW generally a month. True can be less. 

Discuss with immigration. 

[rwilem]

58 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Thank you. So to do it 45 days early I would have to go soon but have to resign myself to a lot of waiting as online queue is not available until 12th June at the earliest. But that's ok if that's what I need to do. A day out at CW is always a joy.

You are in a situation here now where you just gotta bite the bullet and deal with not having an appointment. Dr Jack has long-standing good advice for doing extensions at CW without appointments. Just get there before they close for lunch, get your que number(s), take care of other biz during the break and go back in after they open up for the afternoon. You will get your stuff done. 

 

58 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

I have a multi reentry permit now, so if I get an under consideration that takes me beyond 2nd July (my current expiry) would I need to get a fresh one?

I would assume so, yes. But if you go on May 29 or 30 for the extension you should get under consideration for 30 days. OK, even if goes to July 2 (your current expiry) you will be here. Both of those, or either of those I should say, will work for, you will be here. Confirm with the IO while you are doing the extension, and confirm about travel out, whether your current re-entry will remain valid, etc. 

 

Yeah, it's a tad stressful, I get it. Which is why getting the extension out of the way earlier, before you take the second trip, might be the most prudent approach.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[josephbloggs]

50 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

That was my guess. 

As pointed out earlier by @rwilem you have flexible choices given no need to be in Thailand during under consideration period. 

Whatever you opt for be aware you require a reentry permit for period you exit Thailand. 

The under consideration period at CW generally a month. True can be less. 

Discuss with immigration. 

Thanks Jack, appreciate the help.

I will discuss with them during the application and will report back in the hope it can others in future.

Actually just remembered I will be there on Wednesday to get a CoR. Who could I discuss this with if I wanted to ask for advice? I am assuming not the CoR counter, but would the people at the initial reception be able to advise? Or is there someone else you can approach for general advice? I guess the initial reception but you can feel they are angsty when people take up their time as there are always queues behind.

 

[josephbloggs]

34 minutes ago, rwilem said:

You are in a situation here now where you just gotta bite the bullet and deal with not having an appointment. Dr Jack has long-standing good advice for doing extensions at CW without appointments. Just get there before they close for lunch, get your que number(s), take care of other biz during the break and go back in after they open up for the afternoon. You will get your stuff done. 

 

Thanks Rwilem. And yeah, I guess I just resign myself to spending a few hours there without an appointment. But good tip on timing, I'll do that.

 

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I would assume so, yes. But if you go on May 29 or 30 for the extension you should get under consideration for 30 days. OK, even if goes to July 2 (your current expiry) you will be here. Both of those, or either of those I should say, will work for, you will be here. Confirm with the IO while you are doing the extension, and confirm about travel out, whether your current re-entry will remain valid, etc. 

 

Yeah, it's a tad stressful, I get it. Which is why getting the extension out of the way earlier, before you take the second trip, might be the most prudent approach.

Yeah, if doing it without an appointment then 29th or 30th makes sense or maybe just do it later in June before my first trip. I just generally don't like cutting it too fine but as you say I can always come back in the next 1-2 days if anything else was needed.

Appreciate the input.

And I will reply back here afterwards - I hate it when people don't: the more info people share the better people can be advised in the future and we all benefit from that.

[rwilem]

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Yeah, if doing it without an appointment then 29th or 30th makes sense or maybe just do it later in June before my first trip. I just generally don't like cutting it too fine but as you say I can always come back in the next 1-2 days if anything else was needed.

Personally, that's just maybe my 'too-proactive' approach to things Immigration here. Do what you can the earliest you can.

 

However, for you in your case, if you do your extension on June 16, 17, 18, or even Monday the 21st which is a few days prior to start of your first trip, you will surely be back at the conclusion of your second trip ahead of the last day of the 30, or what ever number of days it turns out be, under consideration. 

 

But make sure about the need or not for a new re-entry permit for that first trip, or whether you will being able to use your existing one for it. And you will surely need a fresh re-entry permit for that second trip during the under consideration period.

Factoring that issue, that's why I'd favor getting the new extension and new re-entry in the fold before departing on the second trip...which means going out to CW May 29 or 30 for the extension.

 

Please do report back what happens!

 

 

 

 

 

[DrJack54]

7 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Actually just remembered I will be there on Wednesday to get a CoR. Who could I discuss this with if I wanted to ask for advice?

It's not simple seeking advice. 

Doubt the io doing your COR can assist. 

Cutting to basics, what you really want to know is will there be home visit during under consideration period. 

The head io in the extension L desks could assist. 

She sits at the rear of (think) L34. 

 

BTW: if you made an appointment for the COR make sure you print out your appointment (hard copy) 

You go to far right desk for #. 

You are seen straight away. 

[Liquorice]

@josephbloggs

 

You currently have permission of stay until 2nd July and a multi re-entry permit, so re-entering on 28th June you will be stamped in until 2nd July.

 

12 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Actually just remembered I will be there on Wednesday to get a CoR.

Why don't you submit your 1-year extension application at the same time?

 

I usually apply 45 days early, but my under consideration stamp is always dated from the expiry date of my current extension to 30 days after.
However, it is usually approved before my current extension expires.

Ensure you advise CW of your planned trips and hopefully your extension application will be approved and can be collected on Monday 30th June.
You'll need to obtain a new re-entry permit to cover your new extension period.

[josephbloggs]

16 hours ago, rwilem said:

Personally, that's just maybe my 'too-proactive' approach to things Immigration here. Do what you can the earliest you can.

 

However, for you in your case, if you do your extension on June 16, 17, 18, or even Monday the 21st which is a few days prior to start of your first trip, you will surely be back at the conclusion of your second trip ahead of the last day of the 30, or what ever number of days it turns out be, under consideration. 

 

But make sure about the need or not for a new re-entry permit for that first trip, or whether you will being able to use your existing one for it. And you will surely need a fresh re-entry permit for that second trip during the under consideration period.

Factoring that issue, that's why I'd favor getting the new extension and new re-entry in the fold before departing on the second trip...which means going out to CW May 29 or 30 for the extension.

 

Please do report back what happens!

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you, and yes I will report back.

[josephbloggs]

9 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

It's not simple seeking advice. 

Doubt the io doing your COR can assist. 

Cutting to basics, what you really want to know is will there be home visit during under consideration period. 

The head io in the extension L desks could assist. 

She sits at the rear of (think) L34. 

 

BTW: if you made an appointment for the COR make sure you print out your appointment (hard copy) 

You go to far right desk for #. 

You are seen straight away. 

Great, thank you.

[josephbloggs]

4 hours ago, Liquorice said:

@josephbloggs

 

You currently have permission of stay until 2nd July and a multi re-entry permit, so re-entering on 28th June you will be stamped in until 2nd July.

 

Why don't you submit your 1-year extension application at the same time?

 

I usually apply 45 days early, but my under consideration stamp is always dated from the expiry date of my current extension to 30 days after.
However, it is usually approved before my current extension expires.

Ensure you advise CW of your planned trips and hopefully your extension application will be approved and can be collected on Monday 30th June.
You'll need to obtain a new re-entry permit to cover your new extension period.

Actually that's a good idea to do it at the same time, but unfortunately I can't as we have kids in school who'll need picking up unless we get super lucky with the queue.

[rwilem]

5 hours ago, Liquorice said:

 

I usually apply 45 days early, but my under consideration stamp is always dated from the expiry date of my current extension to 30 days after.
However, it is usually approved before my current extension expires.

Man, it seems that the lengths of the 'under consideration' period can vary by quite differing time frames. Some say 30 days from the extension applying date. Some say up to the current extension date if applying more than 30 days in advance of it. And your experience is an under consideration time frame lasting till 30 days after the current extension. And you were applying well in advance, that could mean a two-month time frame for the period. Hard to get a handle on how it should go, or how it's supposed to go. Just like almost all encounters with things immigration, it's a real case-by-case, 'your experience may vary' situation. 

 

By the way, you said the under review period given to you always extends to 30 days after the end of your current extension's expiry date, but that it's usually approved before that date. So a question here. Do you return to immigration on that 30th day of the period, and discover at that time that the approval date was a month prior? Or are you able to get the finalized new extension before your current one has expired, before the end of the under consideration period? Just wondering how that works. If you apply 45 days in advance, and you are supposed to return on the 30th, the last day, of the under consideration period, correct? That would be about 75 days in a limbo of some type. If that is the case, of how that works.

[Liquorice]

4 hours ago, rwilem said:

By the way, you said the under review period given to you always extends to 30 days after the end of your current extension's expiry date, but that it's usually approved before that date. So a question here. Do you return to immigration on that 30th day of the period, and discover at that time that the approval date was a month prior? Or are you able to get the finalized new extension before your current one has expired, before the end of the under consideration period? Just wondering how that works. If you apply 45 days in advance, and you are supposed to return on the 30th, the last day, of the under consideration period, correct? That would be about 75 days in a limbo of some type. If that is the case, of how that works.

My extension renewal is due 10th July each year.

Until that date I have permission of stay regardless of how prior in advance my next application is submitted.

The 30-day consideration period is always dated from the date of the expiry date of my extension.

Regardless of the return date, my Immigration office phone me as soon as it's approved, which is usually before my existing extension has expired.

 

From these stamps you'll note I submitted my application 2nd June, 38 days prior to my extension expiring, and given an under consideration stamp until 9th August, 30 days after my extension expiry date. I was then advised on 15th June my application had been approved and returned for the new extension stamp on 17th June. Only some 15 days after I'd submitted my application and 23 days before my existing extension expired.

 

Last year I submitted my application much later than usual on 18th June.
I received a call on 5th July notifying my extension had been approved.

I attended 9th July for my new extension stamp

 

 

[DrJack54]

@Liquorice excellent report. Ta

[josephbloggs]

1 hour ago, Liquorice said:

My extension renewal is due 10th July each year.

Until that date I have permission of stay regardless of how prior in advance my next application is submitted.

The 30-day consideration period is always dated from the date of the expiry date of my extension.

Regardless of the return date, my Immigration office phone me as soon as it's approved, which is usually before my existing extension has expired.

 

From these stamps you'll note I submitted my application 2nd June, 38 days prior to my extension expiring, and given an under consideration stamp until 9th August, 30 days after my extension expiry date. I was then advised on 15th June my application had been approved and returned for the new extension stamp on 17th June. Only some 15 days after I'd submitted my application and 23 days before my existing extension expired.

 

Last year I submitted my application much later than usual on 18th June.
I received a call on 5th July notifying my extension had been approved.

I attended 9th July for my new extension stamp

 

 

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