JonnyF Posted May 22 Posted May 22 11 hours ago, CG1 Blue said: Scotland is hardly impacted by mass immigration because the vast majority of migrants head for London and the south east of England. Yeah Scots traditionally love to talk the talk. Not so good at walking the walk though. Same reason that there are so many Scottish football pundits yet so few decent Scottish players. Let them experience what's happened in many English cities and then see how keen they are on immigration. Until then, let them pontificate. 1 1 2
RuamRudy Posted May 22 Posted May 22 1 hour ago, JonnyF said: Yeah Scots traditionally love to talk the talk. Not so good at walking the walk though. Care to elaborate?
The Cyclist Posted May 22 Posted May 22 On 5/21/2025 at 12:05 PM, RuamRudy said: Appears to be a 2 horse race according to Tice. Hamilton by-election a two-horse race between SNP and Reform, claims Tice https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/richard-tice-reform-hamilton-scotland-holyrood-b1228332.html last Fridays By-election Kevin Crawford - Scottish National Party (SNP) - 1331 David Smith - Reform UK - 919 Maureen McGlinchey - Scottish Labour Party - 770 That result doesn't suggest that On 5/21/2025 at 10:22 AM, RuamRudy said: Farage is widely despised in Scotland. We see him for what he is.
RuamRudy Posted May 22 Posted May 22 3 hours ago, The Cyclist said: last Fridays By-election Kevin Crawford - Scottish National Party (SNP) - 1331 David Smith - Reform UK - 919 Maureen McGlinchey - Scottish Labour Party - 770 That result doesn't suggest that If you want to place your hopes on a council by-election which got a 25% turnout then by all means go for it. Whilst the pervasive creep of Farage's lies and racism is undoubtedly attractive to some, I am confident that the decent majority will continue to show him and Reform PLC the contempt they deserve. 1 1
The Cyclist Posted May 23 Posted May 23 13 hours ago, RuamRudy said: If you want to place your hopes on a council by-election which got a 25% turnout then by all means go for it. I, personally could not care less about Council by-elections. Labour and the Tories are absolutely panicking about their spanking at local Council By-elections.:So they must be of some importance to Political Parties. 13 hours ago, RuamRudy said: Whilst the pervasive creep of Farage's lies and racism Take your evidence of this to PC Plod. I believe that the UK has some strictly enforced rules over this. And I think if there was any truth in those rumours, better people than you would already have taken action. Not as if 2 Tier Kiers stormtroopers are afraid to wade in on anything that appears to be right wing. 1 1 1
RuamRudy Posted May 23 Posted May 23 4 hours ago, The Cyclist said: Take your evidence of this to PC Plod. I believe that the UK has some strictly enforced rules over this. And tell them what? Farage is a liar and a racist? To the best of my knowledge neither are illegal. 1
The Cyclist Posted May 23 Posted May 23 6 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: And tell them what? Farage is a liar and a racist? To the best of my knowledge neither are illegal. Your knowledge is wrong Racism is a hate crime in the UK. Quote Any crime can be prosecuted as a hate crime if the offender has either: demonstrated hostility based on race, I guess there is no evidence of him being a racist, or he would be in jail. 1
RuamRudy Posted May 24 Posted May 24 On 5/23/2025 at 10:05 AM, The Cyclist said: Your knowledge is wrong Racism is a hate crime in the UK. I guess there is no evidence of him being a racist, or he would be in jail. I am not wrong. It is not illegal to hold views which could be classed as racist. Being racist and demonstrating hostility based upon race are not the same thing.
hotandsticky Posted May 24 Posted May 24 1 minute ago, RuamRudy said: I am not wrong. It is not illegal to hold views which could be classed as racist. Being racist and demonstrating hostility based upon race are not the same thing. Everything seems to need a label these days. I share Thailand's protectionist views but if I expressed them in the UK I am sure that I would be labelled racist.
The Cyclist Posted May 24 Posted May 24 52 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: I am not wrong. It is not illegal to hold views which could be classed as racist. Being racist and demonstrating hostility based upon race are not the same thing. Was this not you ? On 5/22/2025 at 5:58 PM, RuamRudy said: Whilst the pervasive creep of Farage's lies and racism If he has shown racism, then his detractors would be hounding PC Plod to have him arrested. As for lies, the SNP seem to be out in a league of their own, as far as lies are concerned.
RuamRudy Posted May 24 Posted May 24 30 minutes ago, The Cyclist said: Was this not you ? If he has shown racism, then his detractors would be hounding PC Plod to have him arrested. As for lies, the SNP seem to be out in a league of their own, as far as lies are concerned. It seems that you are struggling to separate the holding of racist beliefs from actively being hostile to someone because of their race. That's for you to work out; I can't help you understand. 1
The Cyclist Posted May 24 Posted May 24 32 minutes ago, RuamRudy said: It seems that you are struggling to separate the holding of racist beliefs from actively being hostile to someone because of their race. I am not struggling with anything, you said, and I quote On 5/22/2025 at 5:58 PM, RuamRudy said: Whilst the pervasive creep of Farage's lies and racism is undoubtedly attractive to some, It's there in black and white, you called out Farage's racism, but cannot back it up. You are the one struggling. And I'll leave it that and come back after the Hamilton By-election, which I believe the result will blow another one of your little fibs right out the water. Reform will come 1st or 2nd, which does not equate to your assertion that Quote Farage is widely despised in Scotland. We see him for what he is. See ya on the 06 June, I won't point and laugh, honest 1
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