Is Trump's war on academia his dumbest move yet?

[BLMFem]

Trump is quickly turning the US from the most favored destination for foreign students to something close to the opposite, and in the process will miss out on an unknown number of highly talented individuals.

It's hard to rank all the stupid moves made by Trump the last months but this has gotta be high on the list. Totally pointless and avoidable.

 

The Economist: Demand for American degrees has already hit covid-era lows

https://archive.ph/fPH0L

 

"SOME OF AMERICA’S most valuable companies were built by people who came to America as students. Elon Musk was born in South Africa and lived in Canada before studying physics at the University of Pennsylvania, Patrick and John Collison moved from Ireland to attend MIT and Harvard, respectively, before founding Stripe, a digital payments company. All told, more than half of America’s billion-dollar start-ups were founded by at least one immigrant; a quarter have a founder who arrived as a student."

 

Kevin O'Leary Says International Students Are 'Extraordinary Individuals.' He Adds, 'They Don't Hate America, And I Want To Invest In Them'

[hotsun]

Maybe since youre not jewish you dont care. If the discrimination were against blacks then guess what youd be doing

[Lacessit]

Trump is anti-science. Progress in science is essential for any nation.

 

It's no accident South Korea has one of the world's strongest economies, along with the highest percentage of scientists and engineers in its workforce.

 

Every cloud has a silver lining. Australia will get the students instead.

[BLMFem]

1 minute ago, hotsun said:

Maybe since youre not jewish you dont care. If the discrimination were against blacks then guess what youd be doing

You know, I'm generally able to decode probably close to 99% of posts, even from those who seem to think that grammar is optional.

But you post makes no sense at all - none. Both sentences, separate or seen together, are completely nonsensical.

Are you OK, buddy?

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

22 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

tI's hard to rank all the stupid moves made by Trump the last months but this has gotta be high on the list. Totally pointless and avoidable.

I'm sure you can adopt a few jihadi "students" if you have enough $$. Might want to swap out the kitchen cutlery for plastic? Meanwhile I think the chants of river to the sea and death to Jews are unwelcome to the rest of us. But I do understand that some (whackos) support the violent rhetoric they spew and are triggered by them getting sent back home.

[hotsun]

10 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

You know, I'm generally able to decode probably close to 99% of posts, even from those who seem to think that grammar is optional.

But you post makes no sense at all - none. Both sentences, separate or seen together, are completely nonsensical.

Are you OK, buddy?

 

Of course it makes no sense to you. Youre brainwashed

[Tug]

9 minutes ago, hotsun said:

Of course it makes no sense to you. Youre brainwashed

Ahh the favorite comeback lol getting pretty thin there hot sun.this attack on academia is indeed rite up there in (damaging) moves if one thinks trump is trying to do a hostile takeover of our government then killing free thinking and speech would be high on the list.

[hotsun]

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

Ahh the favorite comeback lol getting pretty thin there hot sun.this attack on academia is indeed rite up there in (damaging) moves if one thinks trump is trying to do a hostile takeover of our government then killing free thinking and speech would be high on the list.

So no mention from you about antisemitism then. Why nobody wastes their time with you

[save the frogs]

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[NoDisplayName]

45 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Trump is anti-science. Progress in science is essential for any nation.

 

It's no accident South Korea has one of the world's strongest economies, along with the highest percentage of scientists and engineers in its workforce.

 

Every cloud has a silver lining. Australia will get the students instead.

 

Anti-science?  No, just anti anything that doesn't agree with his warped-speed worldview.

 

RFK Jr. may bar government scientists from publishing in medical journals

 

Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said he will ban government scientists from publishing in leading medical journals and proposed creating an “in-house” publication by the department.

“We are probably going to stop publishing in the Lancet, the New England Journal of Medicine, JAMA and those other journals because they are all corrupt,” Kennedy said during an episode of “The Ultimate Human” podcast.  

 

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/5322269-robert-kennedy-jr-bans-medical-journals/

 

 

"Corrupt" means not following the regime's preferred talking points, so the government will create their own fake journals to disseminate their fake science.

[BLMFem]

Foreign students seek to quit Harvard amid Trump crackdown

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250529-foreign-students-seek-to-quit-harvard-amid-trump-crackdown

 

"Trump has upended the United States' reputation among foreign students, who number around one million, as he presses a campaign against US universities he sees as obstructing his "Make America Great Again" populist agenda."

[BLMFem]

16 minutes ago, hotsun said:

So no mention from you about antisemitism then. Why nobody wastes their time with you

But you are "wasting" your time with him?! This is getting weirder and weirder.

Are you sure you're OK, buddy?

[connda]

Those international students wanting quality higher education will gravitate to China and Russia where advanced STEM degrees are valued above Masters and PhDs in business, humanities, and gender studies.  It's just another thing that will make the US less relevant on the world stage. 

[BLMFem]

3 minutes ago, connda said:

Those international students wanting quality higher education will gravitate to China and Russia where advanced STEM degrees are valued above Masters and PhDs in business, humanities, and gender studies.  It's just another thing that will make the US less relevant on the world stage. 

I seriously doubt that non-Russian and non-Chinese students will head to those two countries in significant numbers. My guess would be Western Europe and Australia.

[hotsun]

6 minutes ago, connda said:

Those international students wanting quality higher education will gravitate to China and Russia where advanced STEM degrees are valued above Masters and PhDs in business, humanities, and gender studies.  It's just another thing that will make the US less relevant on the world stage. 

Harvard isnt high quality, nor the other antisemitic campuses anymore

[connda]

1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

Trump is quickly turning the US from the most favored destination for foreign students to something close to the opposite, and in the process will miss out on an unknown number of highly talented individuals.

It's hard to rank all the stupid moves made by Trump the last months but this has gotta be high on the list. Totally pointless and avoidable.

 

The Economist: Demand for American degrees has already hit covid-era lows

https://archive.ph/fPH0L

 

"SOME OF AMERICA’S most valuable companies were built by people who came to America as students. Elon Musk was born in South Africa and lived in Canada before studying physics at the University of Pennsylvania, Patrick and John Collison moved from Ireland to attend MIT and Harvard, respectively, before founding Stripe, a digital payments company. All told, more than half of America’s billion-dollar start-ups were founded by at least one immigrant; a quarter have a founder who arrived as a student."

 

Kevin O'Leary Says International Students Are 'Extraordinary Individuals.' He Adds, 'They Don't Hate America, And I Want To Invest In Them'

More likely that International students, like the Chinese, will be accused of "stealing valuable knowledge from university courses" (gawd no!) and then going back to their own countries where they'll build advanced manufacturing produces which out-compete the United States who will then need to "go to war with those evil countries who now make and sell produces that the US can no loner produce" in order to level the playing field in favor of "the most exceptional country in the world."  "Make America Great Again" by bombing the hell out of everyone who are competitors on the global economic stage.  This will be called "Democracy" and "Peace Through Strength!"  

[ronnie50]

57 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Every cloud has a silver lining. Australia will get the students instead.

Or Canada and UK

[ThreeCardMonte]

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

Trump is anti-science. Progress in science is essential for any nation.

 

It's no accident South Korea has one of the world's strongest economies, along with the highest percentage of scientists and engineers in its workforce.

 

Every cloud has a silver lining. Australia will get the students instead.

If South Korea is so great why wouldn’t they gravitate there?

 

You can have all the agitators, racist and jihadist and leftists.

 

They’ll fit in perfectly at KANGAROO U.

[connda]

7 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

I seriously doubt that non-Russian and non-Chinese students will head to those two countries in significant numbers. My guess would be Western Europe and Australia.

Time will tell. 

Western Europe and commonwealth countries are losing their relevance too.  Hey, It wouldn't take too much of a push to turn you into a Republican Neo-con the way you're talking now BLMFem. 

[BLMFem]

2 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

If South Korea is so great why wouldn’t they gravitate there?

 

You can have all the agitators, racist and jihadist.

 

They’ll fit in perfectly at KANGAROO U.

Incredible how woke the MAGA crowd has become wrt racism.

Well done, people!

[TedG]

4 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Incredible how woke the MAGA crowd has become wrt racism.

Well done, people!

Why is the OPs commnet racist? 

[BLMFem]

3 minutes ago, connda said:

Time will tell. 

Western Europe and commonwealth countries are losing their relevance too.  Hey, It wouldn't take too much of a push to turn you into a Republican Neo-con the way you're talking now BLMFem. 

You mean an old school Republican from back before they turned it into a Jim Jones 2.0 s*** show? Well, I was never that far away (except on various social issues) anyway. Always a centrist.

And my family are under strict orders that if I suffer brain damage and turn MAGA they must shoot me immediately.😆

[save the frogs]

No time to follow this thread too closely, but advanced college degrees are becoming less and less relevant. 

 

Some people are predicting massive white collar job loss by 2030 due to AI taking over.

 

Probably safer to get a plumber's licence if you want a job. 

 

 

[BLMFem]

5 minutes ago, TedG said:

Why is the OPs commnet racist? 

Well, I'm the OP who wrote the OP and the OP is OK.

No idea why you would call it racist, and to be perfectly honest, I don't care.

[hotsun]

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

No time to follow this thread too closely, but advanced college degrees are becoming less and less relevant. 

 

Some people are predicting massive white collar job loss by 2030 due to AI taking over.

 

Probably safer to get a plumber's licence if you want a job. 

 

 

Work for the four years you would have went to harvard, and buy bitcoin. You wont be in debt, actually you will be retired by 30

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, hotsun said:

Work for the four years you would have went to harvard, and buy bitcoin. You wont be in debt, actually you will be retired by 30

 

People investing heavily into degrees might be wasting their money, but hard to predict the future.

AI may get delayed. 

Sorry, no comment about bitcoin. 

[hotsun]

3 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

People investing heavily into degrees might be wasting their money, but hard to predict the future.

AI may get delayed. 

Sorry, no comment about bitcoin. 

It will seem obvious in retrospect. I graduated in 2009, i see how much more worthless degrees have gotten since then. All it means to me now are the memories. My tuition wasnt nearly as much as kids are paying now

[BLMFem]

31 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

No time to follow this thread too closely, but advanced college degrees are becoming less and less relevant. 

 

Some people are predicting massive white collar job loss by 2030 due to AI taking over.

 

Probably safer to get a plumber's licence if you want a job. 

 

 

There's no doubt that way too many people get degrees that do little to nothing wrt their chances of getting decent paying jobs, and most countries in the West would benefit greatly if the status and quality of trade schools had been improved.

[Cameroni]

On the plus side some of the feminist activists from Russia will now be returned to their homeland.

[BLMFem]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

On the plus side some of the feminist activists from Russia will now be returned to their homeland.

Not an unexpected remark given your deep hatred of women.