Trump faces 'test case' as he's put in 'complete opposition' to his base

[bannork]

President Donald Trump is currently finding himself between a rock and a hard place after having spent years promoting his relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin, which his Make America Great Again (MAGA) base embraced, and now finding he can't deal with the Russian strongman as he tries to get a peace deal worked out over the Ukraine invasion.

Appearing on MSNBC's "Way Too Early" Wednesday morning, Elise Labott, the Edward R. Murrow Press Fellow at the Council in Foreign Relations, claimed Trump's desire to win a Nobel Peace Prize is at loggerheads with a substantial number of his followers who want him to stick with Putin.

Labott pointed out, "Now he's starting to say President Putin is crazy, President Putin is ruining Russia, he's ruining the world, so, you know, Steve Bannon and that whole MAGA crowd, Tucker Carlson, they're really, you know, coming to rubs here and I think this is a very interesting case."

Trump faces 'test case' as he's put in 'complete opposition' to his base: expert

[save the frogs]

do you ever leave spaces when you start a new paragraph?

 

[Cameroni]

I understand Trump's frustration, he wanted peace, but Putin can see  he's winning so he wants to drag it out a bit. But they'll agree a peace in due course. Neither Ukraine nor Russia can afford to keep fighting forever.

 

Putin is doing what is best for his country, and if that means advancing somewhat deeper into Ukraine, then that's what will happen.

[TedG]

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I understand Trump's frustration, he wanted peace, but Putin can see  he's winning so he wants to drag it out a bit. But they'll agree a peace in due course. Neither Ukraine nor Russia can afford to keep fighting forever.

 

Putin is doing what is best for his country, and if that means advancing somewhat deeper into Ukraine, then that's what will happen.

 

All the death and destruction that Putin is enacting on Ukaine is not good for anyone.  

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

The real MAGA base supports Trump because he's channeling their racism and resentment.

 

If Trump's cabinet members don't know what habeas corpus is or the head of FEMA doesn't know there is a hurricane season, how could the rank and file MAGAs know anything about foreign policy or the war in Ukraine.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

The real MAGA base supports Trump because he's channeling their racism and resentment.

 

If Trump's cabinet members don't know what habeas corpus is or that there is a hurricane season, how could the rank and file MAGAs know anything about foreign policy or the war in Ukraine.

All you guys can do is lie. 

 

 

[Cameroni]

6 minutes ago, TedG said:

 

All the death and destruction that Putin is enacting on Ukaine is not good for anyone.  

 

I'd also prefer if the fighting stopped. But it's hard to do a ceasefire with Ukraine when they're deep within Russia causing death and destruction.

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

All you guys can do is lie. 

 

 

 

Kristi Noem said that habeas corpus is the right for Trump to deport immigrants without due process. Do you think she didn't say that?

[Tug]

3 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

I understand Trump's frustration, he wanted peace, but Putin can see  he's winning so he wants to drag it out a bit. But they'll agree a peace in due course. Neither Ukraine nor Russia can afford to keep fighting forever.

 

Putin is doing what is best for his country, and if that means advancing somewhat deeper into Ukraine, then that's what will happen.

I dono seems to me trump got suckered again and he’s terrified of putin for whatever reason.trump in his desire for the noble or his anger/ jealousy towards pres Zelenskyy for not lying for him against President Joe Biden combined with his mental illness won’t allow him to admit his mistake.the criminal putin ain’t going to stop and when he does it will only be a breather to re arm then go on the offensive again.two vile disgusting individuals in my opinion 1 a traitor to American ideals and the oath of office the other a criminal who sends his people to rape loot and murder his neighbors.

[JAG]

7 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

The real MAGA base supports Trump because he's channeling their racism and resentment.

Spot on.

[Tug]

27 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

do you ever leave spaces when you start a new paragraph?

 

Looks like someone has nothing constructive to say.

[Keep Right]

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

 

 

 

Trump's at over 53%, an all-time high for him, I think. 

 

 

 

 

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

Kristi Noem said that habeas corpus is the right for Trump to deport immigrants without due process. Do you think she didn't say that?

Do you have an in-context quote from Noem? And you said members, who else? 

 

In any event, the lie i am calling out is your claim that "The real MAGA base supports Trump because he's channeling their racism and resentment."

[Yellowtail]

3 minutes ago, JAG said:

Spot on.

Another liar. Any evidence of that? Besides the number of blacks and Hispanics that have abandoned the Democrat party and are supporting Trump? 

 

No doubt that as a leftist, you think blacks and Hispanics are just too stupid to know what's good for them, right? 

[TedG]

8 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

I'd also prefer if the fighting stopped. But it's hard to do a ceasefire with Ukraine when they're deep within Russia causing death and destruction.

Who started the process of death and destruction?

[JAG]

Aha, @Etaoin Shrdlu, you are being  called out for lying!

 

Definitely hit a nerve there!

 

Edited to note:

I see I am a liar as well! I don't know about you, but when the usual suspects resort to accusing me of lying, I take it as a badge of honour!

 

Maybe we need a new emoji - "speaks with forked tongue"

[Cameroni]

3 minutes ago, TedG said:

Who started the process of death and destruction?

 

Russia, but  they had an issue of self defense due to NATO's deception. It is a legitimate war.

[BLMFem]

Just now, Cameroni said:

 

Russia, but  they had an issue of self defense due to NATO's deception. It is a legitimate war.

And that is legitimate BS.

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you have an in-context quote from Noem? And you said members, who else? 

 

In any event, the lie i am calling out is your claim that "The real MAGA base supports Trump because he's channeling their racism and resentment."

 

 

Others have written about this. 

 

https://news.ku.edu/news/article/2020/12/17/new-book-reveals-how-racial-resentment-unites-trump-voters-battleground-states

 

There are other sources that discuss this as well. Not difficult to find with an internet search. 

[TedG]

29 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

The real MAGA base supports Trump because he's channeling their racism and resentment.

 

If Trump's cabinet members don't know what habeas corpus is or the head of FEMA doesn't know there is a hurricane season, how could the rank and file MAGAs know anything about foreign policy or the war in Ukraine.

You dislike Trump becase he is white.    How's that? 

[Yellowtail]

Just now, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

 

Others have written about this. 

 

https://news.ku.edu/news/article/2020/12/17/new-book-reveals-how-racial-resentment-unites-trump-voters-battleground-states

 

There are other sources that discuss this as well. Not difficult to find with an internet search. 

So, you don't have an in-context quote from Noem, and you were straight out lying about the other cabinet members, typical leftist. 

[TedG]

1 minute ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

 

Others have written about this. 

 

https://news.ku.edu/news/article/2020/12/17/new-book-reveals-how-racial-resentment-unites-trump-voters-battleground-states

 

There are other sources that discuss this as well. Not difficult to find with an internet search. 

 

Explain why blacks and hispanics voted for Trump.   You lefties see everything in the prisom of race.   Why is that? 

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So, you don't have an in-context quote from Noem, and you were straight out lying about the other cabinet members, typical leftist. 

 

Here you go. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_UIbsre2cY

[Yellowtail]

2 minutes ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

Here you go. 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_UIbsre2cY

So, you don't have an in-context quote from Noem, and you were straight out lying about the other cabinet members, typical leftist. 

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

So, you don't have an in-context quote from Noem, and you were straight out lying about the other cabinet members, typical leftist. 

 

Ok. So it is possibly only Krisit Noem who does not know what habeas corpus is. Still shocking that a cabinet level person would not know.

[JAG]

15 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Russia, but  they had an issue of self defense due to NATO's deception. It is a legitimate war.

That's a bit like claiming that the deportation (and worse) of Jews and Slavs was legitimate because The Third Reich needed "Lebensraum"!

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

Just now, Yellowtail said:

So, you don't have an in-context quote from Noem, and you were straight out lying about the other cabinet members, typical leftist. 

 

She was asked point blank and her answer is clear. She did not know.

[Yellowtail]

1 minute ago, Etaoin Shrdlu said:

 

She was asked point blank and her answer is clear. She did not know.

She has a kind mouth, not a sharp one. And thanks for admitting you just straight out lying about the other cabinet members. Most leftists would not.  

[Cameroni]

4 minutes ago, JAG said:

That's a bit like claiming that the deportation (and worse) of Jews and Slavs was legitimate because The Third Reich needed "Lebensraum"!

 

Completely different. Hitlers war against Poland was a just war, however, when he thought he'd abuse the situation and get Lebensraum it became an offensive and unjust war.

 

Russia's war is purely defensive. Nothing to do with Lebensraum or offensive war, nor racial issues. They're fighting their slav brothers.

[JAG]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

Hitlers war against Poland was a just war,

 

Enough said!