Is paying the bar to take a girl out of the bar justified? Or just a scam?

[Equatorial]

1 hour ago, MalcolmB said:

A lot of the less inexperienced members were trying to say it wasn’t a thing at all.

 

Actually, they may actually be more experienced, rather then less. 

 

First, that may be based on their personal experience. 

 

Also, an obligation to give money to an "employer" (bar, in this case) upon leaving implies indentured labor. As far as I know, bar girls in Pattaya and Bangkok are not indentured, and they are free to go without any compensation to the bar. And they often do - they quit and go back upcountry, or they move to a different bar, etc. That includes the case when they decide to stop working bar and to stay with a farang. 

 

I don't doubt that some bars will request money, and the girl may be complicit, out of obligation, or because of other reasons. And, for the peace of mind, the farang may decide to pay a small amount.

 

But, ultimately, the bar has no recourse (legal or otherwise) against the girls who leave, for whatever reason. 

[actonion]

She can quit,  but  wont  because the Mamasan  is giving  her a cut  of the 50,000b  or so she believes, having received a cut,  and a returned  to Buriram for a week or two  I  fully expect her to return to the Bar when the boyfriend has gone home

[actonion]

23 hours ago, quake said:

 Come on now.

No porkies. have a look. 

On 6/19/2025 at 8:08 AM, frank83628 said:

Why on earth do you old guys think these girls like you

Because they always tell me I'm a "Sexy Man"

 

[MalcolmB]

18 minutes ago, actonion said:

She can quit,  but  wont  because the Mamasan  is giving  her a cut  of the 50,000b  or so she believes, having received a cut,  and a returned  to Buriram for a week or two  I  fully expect her to return to the Bar when the boyfriend has gone home

Those days are finished with international free video calls. 
 

[cdemundo]

I haven't experienced this particular problem but sometimes the mamasans really seem to have a lot of control over bargirls who seem to feel obligated. Like "She did so much for me."

 

I was barfining a girl in Pattaya who was like under the spell of the mamasan.

She thought the mamasan was always looking out for her and trusted and looked up to her.  Not my business so I didn't get involved but the mamasan was getting a cut of any money this girl made, more so than with other bargirls I had known. Trying to remember exactly what she was getting a cut of but I just remember thinking that I had never heard of the mamasan getting a cut of things this girl was paying.

 

Some bargirls seem to see the mamasans as I do - money grubbing parasites; but others seem to see them as if they were a revered older relative or something. Maybe a function of how long they have been in the bar scene. I suppose when a farmer girl starts out as a bargirl it seems like the mamasan is helping them. As your girl says "Mamasan gave her the job, accommodation, lent her money, bought her clothes etc".

 

Maybe the bargirls get some benefit from bribing the mamasan that I don't understand.  Actually, sometimes I see punters acting the same way and tipping the mamasan exorbitantly for no reason that is apparent to me.

In general I don't see any benefit to me from the mamasan.

[ThreeCardMonte]

12 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

 

Murder, incest,  spousal and child abuse have also been around just as long.  Your logic holds that we should turn a blind eye to it  as well. A wrongful act is a wrongful act.

 

The beneficiaries of bar fines are pimps. They make their living from the sale of men women, boys and girls for sexual acts. they are parasites.  The practice leaves emotionally damaged people. That is why the discussion of whether or not pay a pimp is disgusting

 

After you’re finished galloping through the farang district on your White Knight campaign will you proceed to the Thai on Thai districts?

 

I’m sure they will appreciate your noble cause.

 

 

[Maestro]

On 6/19/2025 at 3:27 AM, NanLaew said:

 

Porn has four letters but.

 

Only in some pronunciation guides for English speakers and in some lowly educated persons' own transcription of their name. Look at the name written in Thai and you will see no r (ร). Listen to the name being pronounced and you hear no r.

[NanLaew]

35 minutes ago, Maestro said:

 

Only in some pronunciation guides for English speakers and in some lowly educated persons' own transcription of their name. Look at the name written in Thai and you will see no r (ร). Listen to the name being pronounced and you hear no r.

 

Enough with this "lowly educated" nonsense already. This is the community farang pub after all.

 

Thai language doesn't follow the syllablic convention of the Roman language. When they say Porn, they say Paw-n, not Pon.

[Patong2021]

11 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

After you’re finished galloping through the farang district on your White Knight campaign will you proceed to the Thai on Thai districts?

 

I’m sure they will appreciate your noble cause.

 

I have no desire to engage or save anyone. Nor is it about being your fictional white knight. It is just a very easy personal choice: Right or Wrong. There is no gray area, no blurring. It is a choice between good and evil. Your argument is for evil and to harm others. You seek a justification to pay a pimp for the opportunity to have sexual relations with another person, and as this thread shows, there are many who seek to justify their behaviour. The likelihood that Thai people do similar is a  weak excuse. One is responsible for one's own personal choices. At some point, the  deck of cards of moral justifications and excuses will collapse.  

If you are so certain of your position, please share with your family and your co-workers (if you work) that you support the use of prostitutes in Thailand. Be sure to share your opinions on costs and criteria for the selection of a Thai prostitute.