I thought it would get easier here at older age

[Hummin]

4 minutes ago, Lorry said:

Easy.

Just change your parents.

Be born as a Thai.

(You also need the required bank balance to get respect here, but most farang meet this requirement easily).

 

Or you can stand out and be respectful and make a difference from most foreigners they hear about or seen. 

 

If claim respect, then ,,,

 

Anyway, I do not go to temple, marked, and do not need to show off. Maintain a small group of people, and do not really care about what others think or say about me. 

 

If they do not respect me, they do not respect my wife or her family. 

 

Do I feel respected by Thais? Not at all if generally spoken, but I'm met with respect when I renew my visa, licenses, and everyone I need in my life to live effortlessly in Thailand. 

 

I think the differences comes down to the family you marry in to, and their connections in the village. 

 

 

[Patong2021]

23 minutes ago, saintdomingo said:

The strange thing is this name has been here since 2017 and only posted 4 times, 3 on Thursday 1 on Friday. Probably a logical explanation.

There is a way to do this. I don't think it is allowed for one to explain how.

[unblocktheplanet]

On 6/20/2025 at 1:20 AM, Lorry said:

Try getting the seat for the elderly on the BTS. You don't even get the senior fare,

I do get a senior card on BTS, because I have a pink card. And I often am offered the senior seat, and give it up for someone in more need. Maybe you're not being Thai enough.

[unblocktheplanet]

20 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Anyway, I do not go to temple, marked. Do I feel respected by Thais? Not at all.

The life of any village anywhere is in its market and temple. And they're fun. Going there makes you known as a decent person. That's what respect is.

 

What do you call respect? If you're an elder, do you want to sit at those tables at Songkran so villagers can pour lustral water over yours hands? Or do you want to be the fun guy who throws water with the kids.

 

I try to do both!

[Hummin]

12 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

The life of any village anywhere is in its market and temple. And they're fun. Going there makes you known as a decent person. That's what respect is.

 

What do you call respect? If you're an elder, do you want to sit at those tables at Songkran so villagers can pour lustral water over yours hands? Or do you want to be the fun guy who throws water with the kids.

 

I try to do both!

Oh, I'm done with with those songkran celebrations years ago. Here the family go to temple, and we have a dinner with family, where the elderly gets their respect. I'm not reckoned as elderly neither do I want. 

 

For me and us it is more about sharing responsibility and take care of each other and contribute where we can. Temple or songkran play in the streets is not part of the family celebration. Just old good traditional celebration. Of course the kids on the corners give us water as we pass, and also do their paying respect with the powder when we stop for family and friends of family. 

 

I'm not buddhist so they do not expect me to go to the temple. The temple is a family business so my family always contribute with making food and cleaning up dishes, as well making decorations which they get paid for. 

[Lorry]

41 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

On 6/20/2025 at 1:20 AM, Lorry said:

 

I do get a senior card on BTS, because I have a pink card.

Interesting, I didn't know this. 

You just got it at a station (remember which one?)?

I will try.

[unblocktheplanet]

1 hour ago, Lorry said:

Interesting, I didn't know this. 

You just got it at a station (remember which one?)?

I will try.

I've tried most of them on the Sukhumvit line. Approach with confidence. Only once had I been asked to produce my pink card. Been hassled twice.

 

The first time, at Phrom Pong, I was stupid and gave up my card--B300. NEVER DO THIS! Hang onto your card. I'm quite prepared to hang out until the tourist police arrive. It would be big news if a foreigner were busted for 'theft of services'. Yeah, a night in the hoosegow and a judge laughing this out of court. Would the BTS lawyers even show up? That would 'show them up'!

 

You may not be as much of a radical extremist as I but that's the only way to effect change. After all, the MTR sees no problem.

 

Pick a station outside tourist zones for purchase & top-up. Not Ekamai, Thonglor, Phrom Pong, Asok, Nana, Ploenchit, Chidlom, Siam, maybe Chatuchak. The rest should be fine. Don't give up your card and they will back down.

 

Caveat: you may run into a rulesy BTS employee or someone having a bad day. Or maybe a BTS crackdown. It won't last.

 

 

[Lorry]

3 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said:

I've tried most of them on the Sukhumvit line. Approach with confidence. Only once had I been asked to produce my pink card. Been hassled twice.

 

The first time, at Phrom Pong, I was stupid and gave up my card--B300. NEVER DO THIS! Hang onto your card. I'm quite prepared to hang out until the tourist police arrive. It would be big news if a foreigner were busted for 'theft of services'. Yeah, a night in the hoosegow and a judge laughing this out of court. Would the BTS lawyers even show up? That would 'show them up'!

 

You may not be as much of a radical extremist as I but that's the only way to effect change. After all, the MTR sees no problem.

 

Pick a station outside tourist zones for purchase & top-up. Not Ekamai, Thonglor, Phrom Pong, Asok, Nana, Ploenchit, Chidlom, Siam, maybe Chatuchak. The rest should be fine. Don't give up your card and they will back down.

 

Caveat: you may run into a rulesy BTS employee or someone having a bad day. Or maybe a BTS crackdown. It won't last.

 

 

Thx, I wil try.

My last trip on the BTS was 107 B, I didn't even know they have that expensive trips.

[roo860]

On 6/20/2025 at 11:34 AM, KhaoHom said:

If I may be so bold.. I wonder how much living in Chiang Mai has to do with it. I've always intensely found the place utterly boring to a fault. Then you have the bad air on top of it. It's a dead city for dead people. No amount of silly motorbike rides in the mountains or whatever will change that. It's not even Thailand's second city although it's often thought of as such. Second City is Phuket or Pattaya.  CM just a wasteland

Chiang Mai is well rid of you then.

[unblocktheplanet]

24 minutes ago, Lorry said:

Thx, I wil try.

My last trip on the BTS was 107 B, I didn't even know they have that expensive trips.

Seniors are half price but only if off-hours 9am-4pm and 8pm to 12am.

[1FinickyOne]

18 hours ago, Lorry said:

No, they are not cheaper than the "Western World", whatever that may mean.

They are cheaper then in the US, but more expensive than non-subsidized prices in Europe. 

You don't know what the Western World means? 

 

I am going to say any of your assumptive knowledge might be suspect... 

[1FinickyOne]

On 6/20/2025 at 1:20 AM, Lorry said:

As you get older,  in the eyes of Thais you resemble more and more not a working professional,  but a typical retiree aka old sex tourist

 

On 6/20/2025 at 1:20 AM, Lorry said:

elder farangs, of course not. Thais do not respect farangs.

Incorrect - very very incorrect

[1FinickyOne]

1 hour ago, Lorry said:

I didn't even know they have that expensive trips.

 

2 hours ago, Lorry said:

Interesting, I didn't know this. 

And the beat goes on... 

[1FinickyOne]

On 6/20/2025 at 1:05 PM, Lorry said:

Farangs don't have any position in Thai society

They do if they are known to help others in times of need... that is 100% - definitely.