Blueman1 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, hotchilli said: Agreed, the lady who was present could have enticed him to a safer area. As for the Bolt driver.... blind ? As for the Bolt driver.... blind ? Did He Pass his Driving test at The Local " BLIND " SCHOOL ?? 1
Cat Boy Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 6 hours ago, ikke1959 said: Happens to me too all the time.. accidently ... Driver don't look further that the end of their car it seems.. The haven.t learned to watch and see in the distance what is going on.. This is also an example.. A normal driver could drive without hitting the man as it is obvious he is laying on the road.. Again, the driving education must be reformed "Happens to you all the time"? 😳 What kind of world do we live in that it's not perfectly acceptable (and safe) to pass out, blind drunk, anywhere, anytime, even in the middle of a parking lot. Who'd a thunk? In all likelihood, though, the investigation will find a determination of shared negligence and thus comparative liability
AustinRacing Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Lucky he was drunk and probably didn’t feel the pain.
Reddavy Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, Photoguy21 said: If the car and the guy are the ones shown in the photo then there is no way the car driver would not have seen him. You need to view the video me thinks 🙈
Reddavy Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 3 hours ago, quake said: Wow. Thought he was from Scotland. Naaaa even the porridge monsters are not that thick 🤣🤣🤣 1 1
Andycoops Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Brings new meaning to wherever I lay my head (hat) that's my home. Silly sod. 1
spidermike007 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 4 hours ago, Photoguy21 said: If the car and the guy are the ones shown in the photo then there is no way the car driver would not have seen him. Unless he took his eyes off the road to look at his phone, to determine where his next pickup was, instead of doing that before he started driving. That would be where the negligence came in. 1
Thingamabob Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Sig said: Is there somebody who thinks that is the case??🙄 The context of this feed is - Thailand. Although, I never said or implied anything of the sort anyway.... Understood. You indeed did not say or imply anything of the sort.
jwl53 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 10 hours ago, Georgealbert said: The driver, making a turn into the pick-up area, failed to notice the man on the ground How can you not see a large guy lying on the road? Driving without due care and attention I call it
Cat Boy Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 24 minutes ago, AustinRacing said: Lucky he was drunk and probably didn’t feel the pain. Blackouts have their privileges Who hasn't woken up in in intensive care with no recollection only to discover 6 years have past 2
Cat Boy Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago I feel empathy for the 14 month old baby whose head was crushed, fatally injured, a few days ago, having been dropped from a motorcycle driven by the baby's drunken father. For this accident, I feel nothing, other than compassion for the Bolt driver to whatever extent guilt over partial negligence will remain in his psyche forward. Still, perhaps it will inspire presence and great caution 2
Mavideol Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, Mavideol said: who will believe that I guess many do believe in ''accidentally" being run over, almost like believing in Santa 1
Cat Boy Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 6 minutes ago, hydraides said: He has passed away and died I always reflect, some mother's little boy, some child's father. Of course we don't know the circumstances Still, such a senseless death RIP
BangkokReady Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, FlorC said: How can a head survive getting runover ? Motor in the back of the car , less pressure on front wheels ? The skull is pretty strong. I also noticed that his head was in a sort of recess. Perhaps that held the head in place and helped to reinforce it.
Cat Boy Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Mavideol said: I guess many do believe in ''accidentally" being run over, almost like believing in Santa Santa Claus is imaginary. This is an actual person, an adult of legal standing, who got himself so inebriated as to pass out in the middle a parking lot. That's a choice. Not an accident. There are safer places to pass out, like a sidewalk, at home, or inside the bar/club he was drinking. At the very least, he rejoined eternity, on a stretcher DOA 'Nuff said
Mavideol Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Cat Boy said: Not an accident. so you agree was not an accident, that's what I was pointing out
Cat Boy Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Mavideol said: so you agree was not an accident, that's what I was pointing out It was an "accident" only in so much as an accident is an incident. There was shared negligence and thus liability and culpability. So, yes, we'll agree, this wasn't an "act of god" or an incident that couldn't have been prevented by either party.
Surasak Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago The first aiders, don't appear to have done the Swedish guy any favours. rolling him over and pulling his shirt up over his head, was not a very good idea. 1
KhunHeineken Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago On a serious note, can members imagine if it was them where the Swedish guy was, but bending down to tie a shoe lace, or pick up the 10 baht coin they just dropped for the baht bus, or maybe even standing there on their phone, this Thai driver probably would have hit you as well.
Cat Boy Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said: On a serious note, can members imagine if it was them where the Swedish guy was, but bending down to tie a shoe lace, or pick up the 10 baht coin they just dropped for the baht bus, or maybe even standing there on their phone, this Thai driver probably would have hit you as well. No, that's a non sequitur, you're making a comparison between alternative situations and drawing the same conclusion. Standing vertically looking at one's phone (stupidly unaware) whilst in the middle of a parking lot, Or, Half bent over picking up a 10 baht coin Are infinitely more visible, and NOT in anyway the same as laying flat, passed out on the pavement. If the drivers had been driving an SUV or even some crossovers, there's absolutely no way they would have seen an adult body, or even a toddler standing. That's a testimony to the inherent danger of some automobiles in terms of blind spots, and to some extent an irrational trust of the driver that there's nothing there, when in fact, due to their obscured view, there's no way of knowing, beyond exercising heightened caution ⚠️ at all times, especially at 3am outside a bar
ikke1959 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Cat Boy said: "Happens to you all the time"? 😳 What kind of world do we live in that it's not perfectly acceptable (and safe) to pass out, blind drunk, anywhere, anytime, even in the middle of a parking lot. Who'd a thunk? In all likelihood, though, the investigation will find a determination of shared negligence and thus comparative liability Ironic meaning... accidently it happens to me all the time.. It is never my mistake what ever happens... I could not help it, etc etc... Just rubbish talk.. This accident could be prevented if you look further than the end of the car... Don't need to say accidently..
KhunHeineken Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Cat Boy said: No, that's a non sequitur, you're making a comparison between alternative situations and drawing the same conclusion. Wrong. I'm calling out the incompetence and / or inattention of the Thai driver. 2 minutes ago, Cat Boy said: Standing vertically looking at one's phone (stupidly unaware) whilst in the middle of a parking lot, Or, Half bent over picking up a 10 baht coin Are infinitely more visible, and NOT in anyway the same as laying flat, passed out on the pavement. Only visible to those paying attention. The Thai driver was probably looking at his phone for the next fare. 3 minutes ago, Cat Boy said: If the drivers had been driving an SUV or even some crossovers, there's absolutely no way they would have seen an adult body, or even a toddler standing. Rubbish. Look at the arc the driver took and the distance. The Thai driver wasn't paying attention to the road in front of him. 4 minutes ago, Cat Boy said: That's a testimony to the inherent danger of some automobiles in terms of blind spots, and to some extent an irrational trust of the driver that there's nothing there, when in fact, due to their obscured view, there's no way of knowing, beyond exercising heightened caution ⚠️ at all times, especially at 3am outside a bar Rubbish. The driver wasn't paying attention. Simple as that. My bet would be, particularly as he is a Bolt driver, was he was looking at his phone. Plenty of videos on the net about it. Here's just one. The driver hit a parked car. Now, a parked car is way bigger than a person, right?
KhunHeineken Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 18 minutes ago, ikke1959 said: This accident could be prevented if you look further than the end of the car.. I bet he does for police check points. Just unlucky he hadn't already picked up his passenger/s. One of them may have pointed to the Swedish guy and said something like, "Look how drunk that guy is" and the driver would have went around him.
Cat Boy Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 7 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said: Wrong. I'm calling out the incompetence and / or inattention of the Thai driver. Only visible to those paying attention. The Thai driver was probably looking at his phone for the next fare. Rubbish. Look at the arc the driver took and the distance. The Thai driver wasn't paying attention to the road in front of him. Rubbish. The driver wasn't paying attention. Simple as that. My bet would be, particularly as he is a Bolt driver, was he was looking at his phone. Plenty of videos on the net about it. Here's just one. The driver hit a parked car. Now, a parked car is way bigger than a person, right? Ahhhh, I see, so it's a more generalized conjecture based on your grouping all Thai drivers as incompetent. Understood
KhunHeineken Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Cat Boy said: Ahhhh, I see, so it's a more generalized conjecture based on your grouping all Thai drivers as incompetent. Understood Nice deflection, but no cigar for you. The driver was Thai, was he not? Now, what about that "driver inattention" thing, or was it the car manufacturer's fault for poor car design and blind spots?
Geoff914 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 5 hours ago, FlorC said: How can a head survive getting runover ? Motor in the back of the car , less pressure on front wheels ? I guess he wasn't literally run over by the front wheel. Probably hit by the bumper or the valance.
Cat Boy Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 13 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said: Nice deflection, but no cigar for you. The driver was Thai, was he not? Now, what about that "driver inattention" thing, or was it the car manufactures fault for poor design and blind spots? The driver was working for Bolt, so, it's safe to presume that he's a Thai national. Perhaps you're implying being Thai he's predisposed to negligence in vehicular accidents. I'd say that's a generalization. No, it wasn't the manufacturer's fault, he was driving a normal sedan, not an SUV or Hybrid, and I'll admit that as a bit of a tangent, though valid elsewhere, particularly in the US. In this incident, there is obviously shared negligence, it could have been prevented by either party, and thus the investigation will likely determine joint liability and culpability. RIP Swede
KhunHeineken Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Cat Boy said: The driver was working for Bolt, so, it's safe to presume that he's a Thai national. You don't say. 21 minutes ago, Cat Boy said: Perhaps you're implying being Thai he's predisposed to negligence in vehicular accidents. No. Just called him a Thai driver because he's Thai. 21 minutes ago, Cat Boy said: I'd say that's a generalization. I'd say you are very "woke" about it. I just say it as a fact. 21 minutes ago, Cat Boy said: No, it wasn't the manufacturer's fault, "That's a testimony to the inherent danger of some automobiles in terms of blind spots" - your words, not mine. You have contradicted yourself. 21 minutes ago, Cat Boy said: In this incident, there is obviously shared negligence, How so? Once again, say a sober tourist was just standing there and got hit, you would be posting differently. You are just fixated on him being drunk and laying on the ground. Say he was sober and laying on the ground. Does that effect the shared negligence? Say he was sober, and tripped over seconds before being hit. Does that effect the shared negligence? Say it was a small child standing there, waiting for their parent. Does that effect shared negligence? Say it was a concrete road barrier. Does that effect shared negligence? Where your argument falls down is the distance in the CCTV footage. The driver had ample distance to see and react to any obstruction on the roadway, but didn't. This is even more pertinent as the "object" in front of the driver (the Swedish man) was stationary. Bottom line is, he would have hit ANYTHING in the Swede's location, due to inattention.
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