Science Three Years to the Brink: Climate Scientists Warn of Imminent 1.5C Breach

[James105]

33 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

If in 3 years time things are pretty much the same, what should we do with these so called "climate experts"?

 

They will need to invent a darker red I think as they have "shot their load" on the darkest available red for a mere 33 degrees.  Not sure what they can do if the temperatures get as high again as the heatwaves experienced in 1976 (which occurred before man made climate change was invented).    

 

[WDSmart]

1 hour ago, James105 said:

 

Yes, yes and telephones were giant cumbersome things that could not fit in someones pocket 100 years ago and could only make phone calls, yet now they contain more technology and computing power than was needed by NASA to send someone to the moon, can still make phone calls and they fit in a pocket.    Thinking that we have peaked in energy technology and cannot solve the very far future problem of natural climate change cycles in a couple of thousand (or more likely hundreds of thousands) of years or will not be able to relocate to another planet is just childlike naivety.   

 

Thousands upon thousands of species (probably millions) have become extinct on this planet due to the climate changes this planet has experienced over its 4.3 billion year existence as they did not have the intelligence (or opposable thumbs) to build the tools to change that.   We are the first species to exist on this planet to have the wherewithal and the intelligence to prevent our extinction from such an event, but only if we use the tools and energy we have at our disposal to do so.   If everyone had your attitude (thankfully they do not) then we would end up preventing ourselves from building on the creations and the inventions of our ancestors to save ourselves from future (very, very far future) events.  

Yes, yes, and all that technology, including e-phones, pollutes. We have not "peaked" in creating energy-HARVESTING technologies (not energy-creating technologies), and all our technologies pollute. They generate more pollution than usable energy.

Yes, climate change is a natural thing, but that doesn't mean we, as humans, are not exacerbating or speeding up that natural process with our technology.

In my book, I say that until we learn to live on this planet both socially and environmentally compatible with it, we have no business even trying to go to another planet. To do so should not be called "colonizing"; it should be called "metastasizing." 

Yes, I agree with you that there has not been any species of life on this planet (that we know of) that has the intelligence we (humans) do. It is this very intelligence you mention above that is destroying our planet. In my book I define "technology" as a "physical instantiation of our intellect." That is the main cause, along with hubris and overpopulation, all of which are related.
 

My attitude will not prevent us from creating new technology that will "save" us from the continuing destruction of the Earth's biosphere (not just climate change, that is only a part of it). That destruction is already a done deal. We're "over the cliff" of that now. There is no turning back, only slowing down.

And, this attitude is a truthful one, not a negative one. For a better explanation of that, read "The Starfish Story" by P. Straube, which I mentioned above. I'm sure you can find it by searching online. 

[GanDoonToonPet]

5 hours ago, blaze master said:

 

Your opinion is wrong though 

 

 

 

Carbon Footprint (CO2 Emissions per Capita):

 

Australia    15.01

Canada      14.99

US               14.21

China          8.89

UK               5

 

https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/

 

 

[James105]

46 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

Yes, I agree with you that there has not been any species of life on this planet (that we know of) that has the intelligence we (humans) do. It is this very intelligence you mention above that is destroying our planet. 

 

So if there were less intelligent species on the planet that were not capable of harvesting natural resources for energy, what do you propose caused the climate change that has always existed on this planet in the past?   Do you think that dinosaurs were driving around in giant cars perhaps?  Or has climate change always happened with or without humans existing.   The good news for you is that this happens over hundreds of thousands/millions of years so there is a bit of time yet before the panic button needs to be hit.  

 

55 minutes ago, WDSmart said:

That destruction is already a done deal. We're "over the cliff" of that now. There is no turning back, only slowing down.

 

Yawn, every generation since humans could read and write has always had its share of "end of the world is nigh" doom mongers.   Human civilization has always been on the precipice, especially so before we invented the technology to sanitize water, heal infections, to farm crops, and so on.   

[Red Forever]

On 6/21/2025 at 3:49 PM, Harrisfan said:

Temps fell in May

 

https://www.drroyspencer.com/

Yes Mr High IQ they may have but you’ve cherry picked weather. The subject of the OP is climate.

Do keep up oh brainy one.

[Harrisfan]

5 minutes ago, Red Forever said:

Yes Mr High IQ they may have but you’ve cherry picked weather. The subject of the OP is climate.

Do keep up oh brainy one.

Yes retard but the website covers climate 

[WDSmart]

55 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

So if there were less intelligent species on the planet that were not capable of harvesting natural resources for energy, what do you propose caused the climate change that has always existed on this planet in the past?   Do you think that dinosaurs were driving around in giant cars perhaps?  Or has climate change always happened with or without humans existing.   The good news for you is that this happens over hundreds of thousands/millions of years so there is a bit of time yet before the panic button needs to be hit.  

 

 

Yawn, every generation since humans could read and write has always had its share of "end of the world is nigh" doom mongers.   Human civilization has always been on the precipice, especially so before we invented the technology to sanitize water, heal infections, to farm crops, and so on.   

As I said earlier, climate change is only one factor in the destruction of the Earth's biosphere. And, yes, climate change has always occurred, but our use of technology, hubris, and overpopulation is just exacerbating that and speeding it up. The ocean filling up with plastic, land being filled up with non-degradable waste, and forests being cut down to build cities had not occurred prior to the appearance of humans. 

Wake up! Yes, every generation of humans has had its "end of the world" doom mongers, and, yes, we have always been on the precipice. We are today because we have invented technology to sanitize water (because we dump our waste into it), heal infections (giving us a longer life span, which contributes to overpopulation), and farm crops (using machinery, fertilizers, and insect repellants, all of which pollute). And, so on... 😞 

[blaze master]

2 hours ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

 

 

Carbon Footprint (CO2 Emissions per Capita):

 

Australia    15.01

Canada      14.99

US               14.21

China          8.89

UK               5

 

https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-per-capita/

 

 

 

Which countries pollute the most ? 

 

Canada has as many people as a few cities in China. Per capita means nothing when 2 of the worst offenders make up 40 percent or more of the population

 

 

What delusion.

[GanDoonToonPet]

16 minutes ago, blaze master said:

 

Which countries pollute the most ? 

 

Canada has as many people as a few cities in China. Per capita means nothing when 2 of the worst offenders make up 40 percent or more of the population

 

 

What delusion.

 

Adjusting for population is a delusion...or an industry standard? 🤔

[blaze master]

Just now, GanDoonToonPet said:

 

Adjusting for population is a delusion...or an industry standard? 🤔

 

Carry on then. 

[James105]

3 hours ago, WDSmart said:

As I said earlier, climate change is only one factor in the destruction of the Earth's biosphere. And, yes, climate change has always occurred, but our use of technology, hubris, and overpopulation is just exacerbating that and speeding it up. The ocean filling up with plastic, land being filled up with non-degradable waste, and forests being cut down to build cities had not occurred prior to the appearance of humans. 

Wake up! Yes, every generation of humans has had its "end of the world" doom mongers, and, yes, we have always been on the precipice. We are today because we have invented technology to sanitize water (because we dump our waste into it), heal infections (giving us a longer life span, which contributes to overpopulation), and farm crops (using machinery, fertilizers, and insect repellants, all of which pollute). And, so on... 😞 

 

No, we didn't invent technology to sanitize water because we were "dumping our waste into it", it was invented to stop people (especially kids) dying from cholera, typhoid, and hepatitis etc.  The oceans are not "filling up with plastic", estimates suggest it is less than 0.000000003%.  Not ideal of course but excessive hyperbole just makes you sound a bit ridiculous really. 

[Huisnblasi]

On 6/21/2025 at 8:58 AM, newbee2022 said:

Does it mean you give a <deleted>e what your children or grand grand children will have to deal with?😱

Is it this "me first" attitude?😳

Yepp that's what it means, at least for me. I fon't care about other peoples (spoiled and rotten) offspring. If they made the choice to have children in this world, it is their problem not mine.

[Patong2021]

11 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

As a qualified engineer I have forgotten more science than you will ever know.

 When did engineers study the atmosphere or the relationship between photosynthesis and carbon uptake, or organic chemistry?

What type of engineer? Some people who drive trains call themselves an engineer. Others who collect trash are sanitation engineers.

There are many types of professional engineers. They can be civil or mechanical or chemical or software. so which one are you?  Chemical and Biomedical engineers tend to be rather proud of their education (and rightly so) and will typically differentiate themselves from the generic civil engineers.  So, what in your curriculum of training prepared you for an assessment of  atmospheric analysis? Are you building walkways between the clouds?