UK British Citizens Being Left Behind? Councils Housing More Asylum Seekers Than the Homeless”

[johnnybangkok]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

So, basically they're economic migrants.  In search of better living conditions. 

 

Because asylum seekers are legally required to apply in the first safe country they land in.

 

Some of them are. Others are not. I don't think I've denied this and in fact said in one of my posts 'No one denying there are 'economic migrants' but those should be assessed and deported asap but with a wait list of 91,000 (the real problem), that's not happening nearly quick enough.'

 

If this was your big 'gotcha' moment then I'm happy to disappoint.

[GanDoonToonPet]

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Enoch Powell was old-fashioned and racist!  There can be no doubt about that.  

 

Very low resolution understanding of the man.

 

When he was an officer in India, his best friend was an Indian officer. When they both went to the British officers' mess together, and everyone told his friend to get out, he replied 'If he goes, I go' and went to sit with his friend in the Indian officers' mess.

 

After he returned to the UK, he invited said same officer to spend christmas with him every year until he died. Does that sound like a racist to you?

 

Enoch Powell was a highly intelligent, educated and articulate man. He was well versed in history and the politics of the time, namely the wars in Israel-Palestine and India-Pakistan and the civil rights movement in America. It was these things which led to his concerns about immigration.

 

Now we are seeing the settler-colonialism of the UK (predominantly England) by Arab muslims who cluster in settlements / enclaves which, thanks to our electoral system, give them disproportionate electoral power. The power is effectively in the hands of the Imams, who instruct the men on how to vote, who in turn instruct their women and children; ironically, the patriarchy which we are supposed to despise. 🤔

 

Already we have local councillors elected on the 'Gaza ticket', who shout 'allahu akbar...free Palestine' as a war cry, a Pakistani mayor who cries 'I represent the people of Pakistan' to her constituents, people being prosecuted for burning the Koran and a law against 'Islamophobia' in the making. 

[johnnybangkok]

13 minutes ago, Donga said:

Oh dear, thanks for the education, Johnny.

So Daily Mail is the polar opposite of BBC, The Guardian, ABC, The Sydney Morning Herald, Washington Post, The New York Times, CNN, Los Angeles Times and all those other tired old media, which cling to their steadily declining base who sleep smugly at night knowing they are clever and compassionate while the others are so cruel and evil.

Go Johnny, only you know what a smart person you truly are.

Isn't it just amazing how all of the papers you quoted (don't know much about The Sydney Morning Herald though but I'm assuming it's of the same ilk) were very recently the bastion of great journalism until Trump and the far-right started with all the 'fake-news' BS. It's like something straight out of Lawrence Britt's, 'Fascism, Anyone?' written in 2003 -  

 

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections

Maybe you show learn your history before snidingly remarking on someone's intelligence. But let me guess, we're all just sheeple and you guys are the only one's with your eye's truly open? That about right?

 

 

[brewsterbudgen]

23 minutes ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

 

Very low resolution understanding of the man.

 

When he was an officer in India, his best friend was an Indian officer. When they both went to the British officers' mess together, and everyone told his friend to get out, he replied 'If he goes, I go' and went to sit with his friend in the Indian officers' mess.

 

After he returned to the UK, he invited said same officer to spend christmas with him every year until he died. Does that sound like a racist to you?

 

Enoch Powell was a highly intelligent, educated and articulate man. He was well versed in history and the politics of the time, namely the wars in Israel-Palestine and India-Pakistan and the civil rights movement in America. It was these things which led to his concerns about immigration.

 

Now we are seeing the settler-colonialism of the UK (predominantly England) by Arab muslims who cluster in settlements / enclaves which, thanks to our electoral system, give them disproportionate electoral power. The power is effectively in the hands of the Imams, who instruct the men on how to vote, who in turn instruct their women and children; ironically, the patriarchy which we are supposed to despise. 🤔

 

Already we have local councillors elected on the 'Gaza ticket', who shout 'allahu akbar...free Palestine' as a war cry, a Pakistani mayor who cries 'I represent the people of Pakistan' to her constituents, people being prosecuted for burning the Koran and a law against 'Islamophobia' in the making. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'm_not_racist,_I_have_black_friends

[Jimjim1]

On 6/23/2025 at 3:43 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

Direct consequence of the previous Tory Government losing control of the UK’s borders.

Here we go again, yet another Labour rhetoric devotee who appears to have deserted his country instead of supporting it blaming the Tories for everything that was originally created by Tony Blair’s Labour government who along with Germany’s Angela Muerkle invited these illegals to come here, Muerkle said Germany needed another million immigrants and millions came there, Blair invited them here because he was hoping that when they eventually got the vote it would be for Labour forever enhancing the lying, cheating thugs within the said party and it’s union barons.

So perhaps you should put your rhetoric stick along with your acid pen where the sun don’t shine until at least you get your facts correct.

And before you say it, no I do not support the Tories, but I do support the truth and it was Labour that instigated this travesty wherein our own people are homeless and living on the streets whilst illegals are given access to everything the taxpayer is denied.

[liddelljohn]

The biggest invasion of Britain for 1000 years  is going on under our noses, helped by woke government , the RNLI  and woke police,,, while White British people are prosecuted for  protesting about it ...  During WW2   the beaches were mined and barbed wire and machine guns and the RN stopped the Invaders ,,  most of the invaders are Muslim single men of working and fighting age ...   over last 10 years UK population has  grown by 8m people   most are immigrants .. Its unsustainable and is leading to great social unrest ...

[Geoff914]

12 minutes ago, Jimjim1 said:

Here we go again, yet another Labour rhetoric devotee who appears to have deserted his country instead of supporting it blaming the Tories for everything that was originally created by Tony Blair’s Labour government who along with Germany’s Angela Muerkle invited these illegals to come here, Muerkle said Germany needed another million immigrants and millions came there, Blair invited them here because he was hoping that when they eventually got the vote it would be for Labour forever enhancing the lying, cheating thugs within the said party and it’s union barons.

So perhaps you should put your rhetoric stick along with your acid pen where the sun don’t shine until at least you get your facts correct.

And before you say it, no I do not support the Tories, but I do support the truth and it was Labour that instigated this travesty wherein our own people are homeless and living on the streets whilst illegals are given access to everything the taxpayer is denied.

And who was it that was so anti Immigration that they made it a manifesto commitment to get net migration to under 100,000. They banged on endlessly how they were going to get below 100,000 a year but they never got it below three quarters of a million. who was it, it wasn't the tories was it? The latest scandal is not deporting non UK prisoners when they are released which they are supposed to do.

[Geoff914]

3 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Powell made THAT speech in 1968 so 57 years later his 'prophecy' still hasn't come true and I seriously doubt it ever will.  

  

And do you think that growing at the rate of the size of a London every decade that it wont happen in the future. Not necessarily race riots but the millions and millions without jobs and housing. So if on average net legal migration is 750,000 a year by the end of the century population will have grown from migration alone to 122 million from 66 million. Governments are incapable of managing a the population now. 

[Jimjim1]

1 hour ago, Geoff914 said:

And who was it that was so anti Immigration that they made it a manifesto commitment to get net migration to under 100,000. They banged on endlessly how they were going to get below 100,000 a year but they never got it below three quarters of a million. who was it, it wasn't the tories was it?

And so to back yourself up by moving the topic forward whilst denying the truth about the root cause  of the problem and outright  obstruction by Labour of every effort made by the Tories to solve the problem.

As for deportation after serving time for criminality, back in the 60s this was the norm and it should be again and if I had my way it would be carried out by parachute preferably faulty ones because I have had enough of seeing my own countrymen in dire straights whilst economic scroungers live in comparable luxury having made no contribution to this country, aids infected rubbish comes here and get full on treatment at £25,000 a week from the NHS and taxpayers while British cancer sufferers who have made a lifetime of contributions are told that the treatment that would save their lives is denied them because at £5,000 a month is too expensive and they are left to die, where is the justice in that.

[Donga]

3 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Isn't it just amazing how all of the papers you quoted (don't know much about The Sydney Morning Herald though but I'm assuming it's of the same ilk) were very recently the bastion of great journalism until Trump and the far-right started with all the 'fake-news' BS. It's like something straight out of Lawrence Britt's, 'Fascism, Anyone?' written in 2003 -  

 

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights 
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
4. Supremacy of the Military
5. Rampant Sexism
6. Controlled Mass Media
7. Obsession with National Security
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
9. Corporate Power is Protected
10. Labor Power is Suppressed
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections

Maybe you show learn your history before snidingly remarking on someone's intelligence. But let me guess, we're all just sheeple and you guys are the only one's with your eye's truly open? That about right?

 

 

In their day, those media were well respected. I was a keen listener, watcher of ABC and subscribed to the Sydney Morning Herald, well into my 40s. That was last century, before the Y2K hysteria, followed by Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth and the "science is settled" mantra, which is an oxymoron in itself. My BS meter started to twitch. Then we had the BLM movement, and anti-Western civilisation permeating what were once well respected media. Been downhill ever since.

You have to be living under a rock not to understand that these once objective media catered more and more to a left wing bias, market and truth become the casualty. You could say the same for Fox News in the US but on the other side. The internet has spurned hundreds of news sites, some more professional than others, but clearly MSM has lost support. They are now not nearly as respected as they once were and the younger folk hardly refer to them at these days. Sad.

I find Al-Monitor the most objective site for Middle East news, and still searching for reliable wider coverage, other than Murdoch, who still provide counter opinions, which people pay for, unlike ABC, BBC, The Guardian. Hence read across the spectrum and search when my BS meter is aroused. Objective stuff can be found, but takes a bit of effort.

What strikes me are two factors:

1. People now of the left persuasion are convinced they are more humane, caring while Conservatives are viewed as capitalist, environmentally blind and inherently evil
2. People of the left often have very strong views, but struggle to engage with the other side about them. They tend to hit back at the source, rather than the content and are fond of cancelling those with whom they disagree with. Sad.

I've only stopped voting for Labor in the last few years, such was my own surety that I was on the right side of righteousness. Now see I was ignorant of the details on so many topics back then, e.g detailed history of Palestine. An idealist, rather than a realist.

Very frustrating that many folk don't comprehend the notion of illegal immigrants. And is telling that old media, hardly mention the term, preferring "migrants" or "refugees", which was grandfather was 100 years ago. What do people think visas are for? 

[The Cyclist]

20 minutes ago, Donga said:

Very frustrating that many folk don't comprehend the notion of illegal immigrants.

 

Official UK Government website

 

Quote

This page shows figures for the last 7 days for irregular migrants attempting to cross the English Channel in small boats without permission to enter the UK.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/migrants-detected-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats-last-7-days

 

Irregular migrants 😀😀😀

[Geoff914]

4 hours ago, Jimjim1 said:

And so to back yourself up by moving the topic forward whilst denying the truth about the root cause  of the problem and outright  obstruction by Labour of every effort made by the Tories to solve the problem.

As for deportation after serving time for criminality, back in the 60s this was the norm and it should be again and if I had my way it would be carried out by parachute preferably faulty ones because I have had enough of seeing my own countrymen in dire straights whilst economic scroungers live in comparable luxury having made no contribution to this country, aids infected rubbish comes here and get full on treatment at £25,000 a week from the NHS and taxpayers while British cancer sufferers who have made a lifetime of contributions are told that the treatment that would save their lives is denied them because at £5,000 a month is too expensive and they are left to die, where is the justice in that.

You were knocking somebody for "yet another Labour rhetoric devotee" but instead of 15 years of less than net migration of 100,00 per year we got 15 years of net migration of more than 700,000 per year. How quick the tories are to down play their complete and utter disastrous control of immigration.

[NorthernRyland]

This is the face of man that should never be allowed to be near any white country.

 

 

[NickyLouie]

31 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

This is the face of man that should never be allowed to be near any white country.

 

 

 

Mayor of London ?

 

 

[NanLaew]

On 6/23/2025 at 7:34 AM, Mr Meeseeks said:

There's going to be a massive backlash against this and rightly so.

 

Civil unrest is already starting. Southport, Ballymena, etc. 

 

Deportations of millions is now a moderate viewpoint.

 

Remigration is inevitable. 

 

Unrest in Southport and Balymena was primarily triggered by misinformation, lies and racist bile on social media.

 

I am not sure about what caused the protests in etc.

[NanLaew]

6 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

This is the face of man that should never be allowed to be near any white country.

 

 

WTF is a "white country" when it's at home? That sounds all very "superior race" to me. You got any darkies in your moobahn?