14 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Thai white bread turns into cardboard in a few days.  Even a toaster might not help.

Good bread remains bread, and edible. 

 

 

Then eat it fresh, then use for toast.......🤗

29 minutes ago, Presnock said:

If it is WHOLE grain then it is healthier though once they remove the shell and add ingredients it changes.

Read the ingredients, if having Potassium bromate, you may want to give it a pass.  Still allowed in USA, but banned in many countries, as are a lot of ingredients used in USA food processing.

 

Whole grain, or just whole wheat flour being marginally healthier, a bit more protein, less carbs.  Also consider, whole grain or just whole wheat bread isn't 100% of that flour.  10% to 50% max, and it's about flavor & texture.

 

When I use whole wheat flour, its ~40% split with 60% bread flour.

OP, are we all dropping like flies over your latest revelation...........?   🤣

 

Strange my family have been living till late eighties/nineties eating white bread cheese sandwiches for decades, eh.......🤭

 

Try something a bit more believable, eh, like playing with a loaded gun, for instance..................😁

5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Read the ingredients, if having Potassium bromate, you may want to give it a pass.  Still allowed in USA, but banned in many countries, as are a lot of ingredients used in USA food processing.

exactly, used to make the bread even whiter and has been linked to many different cancers and like KhunLA says, bannded in China, Europe but not in the USA.  Just like transfats which the USA watchdogs knew was unhealthy but allowed it to still be used for decades!  Like big Pharma there, the food industry has some powerful folks too and they only concern themselves with making money off the masses and seem to actually care less and less about the citizens.  

3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

In America what we call bread can't even be considered food in parts of Europe. See, here in America

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11 minutes ago, transam said:

OP, are we all dropping like flies over your latest revelation...........?   🤣

 

Strange my family have been living till late eighties/nineties eating white bread cheese sandwiches for decades, eh.......🤭

 

Try something a bit more believable, eh, like playing with a loaded gun, for instance..................😁

You’re a British chap, so you and your family has imported all the bread from the US?

34 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Thai white bread turns into cardboard in a few days.  Even a toaster might not help.

Good bread remains bread, and edible. 

 

 

Surely bread, good or otherwise, goes stale and therefore inedible. It might even get some mould on it. So I am struggling to understand your comment about "good bread remaining edible".

 

The exception to this would be if it was truly loaded with preservatives like Farmhouse bread.

14 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

n America what we call bread can't even be considered food in parts of Europe.

 

because USA is capitalism run amuck.

it's all about profits 

most corrupt capitalism  

 

4 minutes ago, novacova said:

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You’re a British chap, so you and your family has imported all the bread from the US?

No, but doesn't all white bread generally have the same ingredients...?.......🤔

8 minutes ago, transam said:

No, but doesn't all white bread generally have the same ingredients...?.......🤔

Have no idea, haven’t yet taken the time to read all the white bread bakery labels on earth.

35 minutes ago, transam said:

OP, are we all dropping like flies over your latest revelation...........?   🤣

 

Strange my family have been living till late eighties/nineties eating white bread cheese sandwiches for decades, eh.......🤭

 

Try something a bit more believable, eh, like playing with a loaded gun, for instance..................😁

I think it's all accumulative, depending on one's diet.  Potassium bromate linked to cancer in animal tests, and a common ingredient in bread, if not banned, and yes, it is banned in the UK.  Add to that the sugars and hydrogenated oils used in junk food, ultra processed food, and many suspect that as a cause for higher 'new' cancer rates in developed countries.

 

Your family in te 80s & 90s year old brackets, weren't raised and these possibly unhealthy foods, and more of a whole foods diet most of their lives.

 

Many of the USA ingredients used are banned in the UK.

 

Any wonder the high 'new' cancer rates among 1st world countries that folks now live on store bought processed food vs home cooking of whole foods.   Scan my cabinets, and you'll find little to no processed packaged food.  A bag of corn flakes and some dairy products mostly in our house.

 

From wiki, and top 14 countries with cancer rates per 100k ...

NMSC = non-melanoma skin cancer

 

 

 

Giving up eating bread and the other wheat products regularly has reduced joint information to the point where I now prefer the way my body feels without it. I do miss eating ‘good’ bread, but this old body moves better without it.  The difference is day and night. Try it for a week and see if it makes a difference for you!
Every few months I’ll treat myself to a ‘taste weekend,’ just for the flavors, but then right back to zero wheat products. 
P.S. A side effect of not eating bread is watching the kilos drop away from your belly and butt!

Apparently this crap is still around in spite of being identified DECADES ago as being horrible garbage to put in your body.

Just now, HappyExpat57 said:

Apparently this crap is still around in spite of being identified DECADES ago as being horrible garbage to put in your body.

With a good chunk of velveeta pseudo cheese you’ll be in business 

37 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

Surely bread, good or otherwise, goes stale and therefore inedible. It might even get some mould on it. So I am struggling to understand your comment about "good bread remaining edible".

 

The exception to this would be if it was truly loaded with preservatives like Farmhouse bread.

If bread goes stale, bash it into breadcrumbs.  Then add to various dishes.

If it goes fungusy/furry - throw out!!!  Contaminated food of any kind can be bad if contaminated by random fungi, especially Aspergillus flavus.  Usually Aspergillus niger, not so bad but makes bread inedible.

 

16 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

Apparently this crap is still around in spite of being identified DECADES ago as being horrible garbage to put in your body.

Helps build strong bodies twelve different ways, I think that is how the jingle went from back in the 50's and 60's

11 minutes ago, novacova said:

With a good chunk of velveeta pseudo cheese you’ll be in business 

Especially the kind sold in pressurized cans!

 

6 minutes ago, MarkBR said:

If bread goes stale, bash it into breadcrumbs.  Then add to various dishes.

 

Or make it into Bread Pudding . Tasty and cheap, and another good way to reduce waste!

Anyone remember driving over the 59th Street bridge in NYC, and smelling the fresh bread from the ‘Silvercup’ bread factory at the foot of the bridge in Queens?

I'm 87.  smoke, McD's daily, candy, more candy, wine, beer, more beer, but I never once had white bread.  exercise daily.  drink lots of water.  super rich.  lots of sleep.

 

bread cannot be put into a vacuum.     But people hate thinking.    I'd rather pizza everyday than some strange meat in terrible oils.  

My ducks are fussy. They only eat Isaan rice. When I throw them bread they swim away. The fish eat it though.

 

Can get good bread in Laos. Must be the French connection.

 

 

4 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Joe Rogan Calls Out American Bread… “Our bread is so fcked — We're fcking poisoned”…

 

Given that all that you post on AN is medical advice, please tell us what qualifications you have in this field.

 

 

 

 

 

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

My ducks are fussy. They only eat Isaan rice. When I throw them bread they swim away. The fish eat it though.

 

Can get good bread in Laos. Must be the French connection.

 

 

They are spoilt...........

I blame the greed for profit at any length. I have heard that America wants to sell chicken washed in chlorine to the UK. Hopefully, it won't happen.

57 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

Surely bread, good or otherwise, goes stale and therefore inedible. It might even get some mould on it. So I am struggling to understand your comment about "good bread remaining edible".

 

You'd have to have experienced the difference between good and average bread. He's right, good bread is still good and ready to eat after you defrost it, despite it having been frozen. Whilst average bread is not, it requires 10 minutes in the oven to revive the crust.

 

Obviously all bread can go stale, but not all bread is made equal and some retains its corpus longer than more inferior bread.

11 minutes ago, transam said:

They are spoilt...........

You are not wrong there Trans buddy.

 

When they were first held in captivity; that is before they were let out to the ponds, they would have a daily diet of water melon, fresh chopped chicken, chopped lettuce and cooked Isaan rice. Now they are 8 months old and everyone says they are the best looking ducks they have ever seen.

 

And!! Not one has seen a vaxx. 

7 minutes ago, Purdey said:

I blame the greed for profit at any length. I have heard that America wants to sell chicken washed in chlorine to the UK. Hopefully, it won't happen.

Indeed! Chlorinated Chicken. The Don swears by it. Gonna be let loose on the Brits soon. 

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

You are not wrong there Trans buddy.

 

When they were first held in captivity, that is before they were let out to the ponds, they would have a daily diet of water melon, fresh chopped chicken, chopped lettuce and cooked Isaan rice. Now they are 8 months old and everyone says they are the best looking ducks they have ever seen.

 

And!! Not one has seen a vaxx. 

Of course, they are.....................🙄..................🤥

3 hours ago, bendejo said:

 

Actually it's the television shows.  The Mary Tyler Moore Show was definitely an outlet for satanic messages.  It almost outdid The Beverly Hillbillies.

 

Sometimes it slips out.  E.g. Bill Cosby had a big hit of a family man show in the 1980s, and look at what was revealed decades later!

 

We had a guy here in England. The BBC loved him. He had a couple of shows. One was called; "Jim will fix it".

 

Turned out to be  horrible piece of work. Jimmy Savile was his name.

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

You'd have to have experienced the difference between good and average bread. He's right, good bread is still good and ready to eat after you defrost it, despite it having been frozen. Whilst average bread is not, it requires 10 minutes in the oven to revive the crust.

 

Obviously all bread can go stale, but not all bread is made equal and some retains its corpus longer than more inferior bread.

sour dough bread can be frozen, thawed after 3 months just like new.

1 hour ago, Briggsy said:

So I am struggling to understand your comment about "good bread remaining edible".

 

Dried out stale bread can be dipped in coffee, used for breadcrumbs, bread pudding etc.

 

22 minutes ago, bendejo said:

 

Dried out stale bread can be dipped in coffee, used for breadcrumbs, bread pudding etc.

 

Fed to fish and ducks.