July 23, 20251 yr My uncle had abdominal MRI scan all clear. A year later he died of pancreatic cancer.
July 23, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, swissie said: show how the reasoning works". If you don't know what "reasoning" is, just shut up.
July 24, 20251 yr I had an mri scan and the consultant saw some strange issues in my lungs ,so she directed a biopsy ,which can be dangerous ,a camera was sent into my lungs and nothing was found,so a wild goose chase, and she says I have silicosis now,but I have never been in an environment of lots of dust to cause silicosis. do have orthopnia at nite though ,tests are under way to find out why,by wearing a device on the finger at nite.with an oxymeter
July 24, 20251 yr On 7/18/2025 at 11:06 AM, swissie said: My health insurance. What's the name of this health insurance that pays the hospital or refunds you for a Full Body MRI Scan in the interest of "preventive medicine"?
July 24, 20251 yr On 7/21/2025 at 2:16 PM, AsiaCheese said: An MRI scan, and particularly its visual interpretation, is a massive undertaking, and the scan as such leaves a huge amount of data that needs stored. It's not just "a bigger Xray". I believe these full body MRIs which are increasingly popular these days and despite what people say are done very often - but here's the kicker - it's a full day kind of thing from what I heard. You literally need to complete multiple scans over an entire day to complete it - not something a lot of people would be motivated to do - yet many do this and so much so that privately owned MRI scanners are popping up all around the world. The issue then is what to do with the data and you know - what to ignore as there's a lot of stuff that goes on which is pretty safe to ignore - this is where they make the hard sell - there's a few things we should keep an eye on over the coming years - that first scan is just your baseline - then they can check for changes over time - so I guess it would be useful if people don't run for biopsies over every tiny cyst found
July 24, 20251 yr 22 minutes ago, Puccini said: What's the name of this health insurance that pays the hospital or refunds you for a Full Body MRI Scan in the interest of "preventive medicine"? You just pay for it yourself.
July 24, 20251 yr 17 minutes ago, ukrules said: You just pay for it yourself. In the post I quoted, swissie, who started this topic, said that his health insurance pays it. I am genuinely interested in knowing the name of this health insurance.
July 24, 20251 yr 11 minutes ago, Puccini said: In the post I quoted, swissie, who started this topic, said that his health insurance pays it. I am genuinely interested in knowing the name of this health insurance. I think you're missing the point - he's asking why they don't offer full body scans and suggests that his insurance should pay for it - which is kind of laughable as they're not going to pay for what would be considered a 'luxury' that's not needed. If you want this you can get it but you're paying for it and it takes a long time to do.
July 24, 20251 yr On 7/18/2025 at 6:30 PM, bkk6060 said: Cost and time in the tube is probably an issue. Time in the tube! I had special MRI for prostate and believe me it's not a pleasure to be cramped into this noisy monster (even with headphones). Not for the claustrophobic! You have the option to be mildly anesthetized. I didnt do. Which insurance would pay MRI just for prophylaxis. It's not only the cost for the machine procedure but also hours of analyzing results. Cost for that prostate MRI was 13k if I remember right. Upper scale hospital.
July 25, 20251 yr 5 hours ago, KhunBENQ said: Time in the tube! I had special MRI for prostate and believe me it's not a pleasure to be cramped into this noisy monster (even with headphones). Not for the claustrophobic! You have the option to be mildly anesthetized. I didnt do. Which insurance would pay MRI just for prophylaxis. It's not only the cost for the machine procedure but also hours of analyzing results. Cost for that prostate MRI was 13k if I remember right. Upper scale hospital. Jeez, my prostate MRI at Bumrungrad was ฿63,000.
July 25, 20251 yr 2 hours ago, jor said: Jeez, my prostate MRI at Bumrungrad was ฿63,000. Wow and I thought Bangkok hospital in Khon Kaen is expensive. Guess Bumrungrad has the strongest, latest expensive 3 Tesla machine. Whether it makes the difference...
July 25, 20251 yr On 7/23/2025 at 5:13 PM, Celsius said: My uncle had abdominal MRI scan all clear. A year later he died of pancreatic cancer. That's the way it goes unfortunately. My mother's scan was cancer negative, gastro endoscopy (visual and biopsy) both cancer negative and blood tests normal. She died four weeks later of metastatic disease.
July 25, 20251 yr 12 hours ago, ukrules said: I think you're missing the point - he's asking why they don't offer full body scans and suggests that his insurance should pay for it - which is kind of laughable as they're not going to pay for what would be considered a 'luxury' that's not needed. I don't think I'm missing the point. I would like to hear it from @swissie Answering the question "Who will pay for it?", Swissie wrote "My health insurance." The question was "who will", not "who should", and I believe swissie knows he difference. So, back to you, @swissie: What's the name of this health insurance that pays the hospital or refunds you for a Full Body MRI Scan in the interest of "preventive medicine"?
July 25, 20251 yr 39 minutes ago, Puccini said: What's the name of this health insurance that pays the hospital or refunds you for a Full Body MRI Scan in the interest of "preventive medicine"? Good luck with that 🤣
July 26, 20251 yr Hospitals prioritize scans based on real symptoms, not curiosity. Scanning everything without cause doesn’t improve outcomes.
July 26, 20251 yr On 7/23/2025 at 5:26 AM, Sheryl said: Colonoscopies and PSA tests are not "limited to age 75". Different countries have different public health recommendations but in no place that I know of, are these tested prohibited past age 75. in the US, Medicare will pay for colonoscopy at any age. That said, the risks of colonoscopy rise after age 75 and that needs to be factored into the decision making process (talking now about colonoscopy purely for screening purposes in asymptomatic people) as does whether or not the patient would be a candidate for surgery if say cancer was detected. https://www.uspreventiveservicestaskforce.org/uspstf/recommendation/prostate-cancer-screening The current recommendation is not to test PSA in men over 70, although this site announces that there is an update in progress. It has a number of sections (scroll down) on rationale, etc, for their determinations. When I recently had a colonoscopy in Bangkok, they would only do so under general anesthesia since I'm near 80 years old. Not my preference.
July 26, 20251 yr Author On 7/25/2025 at 9:52 AM, Puccini said: I don't think I'm missing the point. I would like to hear it from @swissie Answering the question "Who will pay for it?", Swissie wrote "My health insurance." The question was "who will", not "who should", and I believe swissie knows he difference. So, back to you, @swissie: What's the name of this health insurance that pays the hospital or refunds you for a Full Body MRI Scan in the interest of "preventive medicine"? I am referring to the Swiss National Health Insurance concept. Operating on a "non profit" basis. Not to be confused with Private Health Insurances.
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