5 hours ago, ericbj said:

 

I believe not irretrievably lost.  But more difficult with each passing year.  And costly, "in blood, sweat, tears and toil".

 

Start with Britain.  We are insular.  Europe can follow.  And remember this is not a question of race but of values.

 

European civilisation developed in Britain, and spread from there, after Prince Arvaragus offered Joseph of Arimathea 9 hides of land at the Isle of Avalon (Glastonbury) free of tax forever.  (confirmed a thousand years later in the Domesday Book).

 

 

 

History will tell.  Looks like your major cities are irretrievably lost.  Similar to here in the USA except we have so many more cities the takeover isn't nearly as complete and we are seeing push back on uncontrolled immigration.  

25 minutes ago, jimmybcool said:

 

History will tell.  Looks like your major cities are irretrievably lost.  Similar to here in the USA except we have so many more cities the takeover isn't nearly as complete and we are seeing push back on uncontrolled immigration.  

 

It's truly awesome when someone with maybe two or three score and ten years on the planet confidently states the imminent demise of civilization as we know it.

 

Silly too. Especially when they probably can't name these major cities 

 

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

Truly. Could you survive on 70 quid a week?

The 70 quid per week is just spending money.

They have zero living expenses because that's all paid for by the British payers. 

Are you really that out of touch with what's going on? 

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

I saw the earlier video you posted that showed a mixture of adults and kid protesters getting the police limo service back to the railway station so they could go home.

 

If you can post a video of these same pro-immigration protesters tearing up stuff assaulting the police and damaging property, that would help.

 

 

I don't have to post anything To please you Nan, but your welcome to post the locals causing damage.

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

The 70 quid per week is just spending money.

They have zero living expenses because that's all paid for by the British payers. 

Are you really that out of touch with what's going on? 

 

No. I have a firm grasp on reality but that's not your concern and it doesn't answer my question to someone else.

 

But, while we are here, could you manage on 70 quid a week spending money?

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

I don't have to post anything To please you Nan, but your welcome to post the locals causing damage.

 

It's not about pleasing me though. It's about proof of something that you read or suggest had happened, had actually happened.

 

Did the pro-immigration counter protestors assault anyone, break anything or did any of them get arrested? Simple yes or no?

 

I posted confirmation that a local chap was arrested, probably for being an idiot.

 

Now it's your turn.

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

It's not about pleasing me though. It's about proof of something that you read or suggest had happened, had actually happened.

 

Did the pro-immigration counter protestors assault anyone, break anything or did any of them get arrested? Simple yes or no?

 

I posted confirmation that a local chap was arrested, probably for being an idiot.

 

Now it's your turn.

What ever i post you will deny it or deflect it, but for you I will post this. It shows thugs were bussed in including the Antifa mob and as can be seen it was them causing most of the trouble they were escorted to and back to the bus or Train station. So no I'd say the locals were not causing the trouble. 1 or 2 might have caused a bit but the vast were outsiders.

 

3 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

 

History will tell.  Looks like your major cities are irretrievably lost.  Similar to here in the USA except we have so many more cities the takeover isn't nearly as complete and we are seeing push back on uncontrolled immigration.  

It is a huge issue in the UK now. People are well and truly fcuked off. Even the last census figures show 15% rise in population since the millennium. The reality is far greater, of course.

 

Certain posters on this thread haven't a clue but easy to pontificate sitting in splendid isolation.  

3 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

The 70 quid per week is just spending money.

They have zero living expenses because that's all paid for by the British payers. 

Are you really that out of touch with what's going on? 

That'll be a yes 😄 These people - not all but many - are living in hotels with everything laid on. A great way for owners to make money I'm sure. Beats running a care home.. 

 

Any wonder the UK is a magnet for illegal migration.....tear your passport up, pretend to by gay or a child or persecuted, hire a human rights lawyer on legal aid, you won't be going anywhere. Starmer and crew are pussies and those involved know it. 

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

No. I have a firm grasp on reality but that's not your concern and it doesn't answer my question to someone else.

 

But, while we are here, could you manage on 70 quid a week spending money?

How much spending money do you propose we give per week to, let's say a 25 year old man from Eritrea?

And what do you think he needs to buy with this extra cash? 

 

Bear in mind he already has living expenses covered, plus medical/dental and legal expenses. 

Also bear in mind the UK economy is already in dire straits. 

 

 

There is a Rumour concerning the Police in the Epping hotel demonstrations circulating on X that a few U-Tube bloggers saw Police vans picking up Antifa and other groups like stand up to Racism trouble makers from Railway stations and bringing them to the Bell Hotel.  One officer was over heard saying the busses are here. They were then transported back to the Railway station. It has not been confirmed but some Essex councillors have requested FOIs from Essex Police to provide information, and a close look into these reports. It's also a coincidence that every major Demonstration against the government, that these mobs always seem to know where and what times they are beginning. Then they disapear quickly. The BBC have been asked why was the live feed from Nigel Farages press conference suddenly cut once he began asking about Antifa, and all MSM images are filmed showing only attacks on the Police. 

7 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

It's truly awesome when someone with maybe two or three score and ten years on the planet confidently states the imminent demise of civilization as we know it.

 

Silly too. Especially when they probably can't name these major cities 

 

Even more awesome when someone posts rambling nonsense.  Cheers.

Simple reason for that Jimmy. Some members don't want to input to threads so they try to bring it down, because they can't start a decent thread of there own so they try and spoil it for others.

6 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

How much spending money do you propose we give per week to, let's say a 25 year old man from Eritrea?

And what do you think he needs to buy with this extra cash? 

 

Bear in mind he already has living expenses covered, plus medical/dental and legal expenses. 

Also bear in mind the UK economy is already in dire straits. 

 

 

 

I'm not proposing anything. I'm asking if you could manage on 70 quid a week. You, an English person living in England. Not how much some Eritrean may be getting.

8 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

What ever i post you will deny it or deflect it, but for you I will post this. It shows thugs were bussed in including the Antifa mob and as can be seen it was them causing most of the trouble they were escorted to and back to the bus or Train station. So no I'd say the locals were not causing the trouble. 1 or 2 might have caused a bit but the vast were outsiders.

 

 

Another video that talks repeatedly about left wing thugs causing grief that doesn't show any actual left wing thugs doing anything. It does show people in masks and hoodies waving England flags and stomping on police vehicles. Those clips are from the first day of unrest when no leftists were around.

 

Another video that expands on the rumour that left wing thugs are being bussed around by the police, this one claiming they were bussed in as well as bussed out. But this video doesn't show them being bussed either way.

 

Where's the video of these violent leftist immigration thugs wreaking havoc. Where is it? The previous video showed some casually dressed adults and kids, none of them wearing masks or hoodies, getting ready to get in police vans.

 

As for your opinion about me being all about denying or deflecting from the narrative that you are presenting , that's what debate on a public forum is about. If you can't, or don't want to listen to a different opinion or don't want to answer simple questions, why are you here?

 

You can't present any evidence of what you believe to be happening, but can only post video clips of people telling you that certain things happened without evidence of said events. All you're doing is spreading unsubstantiated fear mongering and disinformation.

 

 

8 hours ago, MarkyM3 said:

It is a huge issue in the UK now. People are well and truly fcuked off. Even the last census figures show 15% rise in population since the millennium. The reality is far greater, of course.

 

Certain posters on this thread haven't a clue but easy to pontificate sitting in splendid isolation.  

 

You mean certain posters who actually live about 8 miles from the alleged Muslim no-go zones in Blackburn?

3 hours ago, jimmybcool said:

Even more awesome when someone posts rambling nonsense.  Cheers.

 

So you can't name these "lost" cities. That's fine, you can't be expected to know everything about what you speak.

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Simple reason for that Jimmy. Some members don't want to input to threads so they try to bring it down, because they can't start a decent thread of there own so they try and spoil it for others.

 

When you actually get around to starting a "decent" thread, I hope you will let us know.

10 hours ago, MarkyM3 said:

It is a huge issue in the UK now. People are well and truly fcuked off. Even the last census figures show 15% rise in population since the millennium. The reality is far greater, of course.

 

Certain posters on this thread haven't a clue but easy to pontificate sitting in splendid isolation.  

 

Indeed

 

The hard facts are actually starting to sink into the thick skulls of the Labour Party

 

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Immigration and deprivation are among the main factors causing public disenchantment with politicians and the government which has led to social unrest and rioting, Angela Rayner, the deputy prime minister, has warned.

 

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Rayner told ministerial colleagues that “economic insecurity, the rapid pace of de-industrialisation, immigration and the impacts on local communities and public services, technological change and the amount of time people were spending alone online, and declining trust in institutions was having a profound impact on society”, according to a No 10 readout of the cabinet meeting on Tuesday morning.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/jul/22/immigration-and-deprivation-reasons-uk-public-losing-faith-in-politicians-says-rayner

 

As I said yesterday. Multiple events, coming together at a pitch point, spills over into carnage.

 

Having a Yuman Rites Parasite as a PM, will do nothing to address the problems.

 

A video that some will find uncomfortable, the truth hurts, sometimes. Suck it up.

 

 

4 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

When you actually get around to starting a "decent" thread, I hope you will let us know.

 

Why? No point. It wouldn't make any difference to you.

Thank god other members not just me know what your about Nan. I'm not posting any further responses to you and I suggest other members distance themselves from you bye.

57 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Why? No point. It wouldn't make any difference to you.

 

If @BarraMarra you or anyone else can come up with evidence that the leftist, pro-immigration counterprotesters committed acts of violence or were arrested at the Bell Hotel in Epping, then maybe it will make a difference to me.

 

But he can't. Neither can you nor anyone else. Why? Because it didn't happen. The locals didn't kick off either. It was the far-right agitators that 'bussed' themselves in to create a confrontation.

 

38 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Thank god other members not just me know what your about Nan. I'm not posting any further responses to you and I suggest other members distance themselves from you bye.

 

What am I about? A leftist luvvie? A Muslim fanboy? A pro-immigration agitator? A Kremlin bot?

 

I'm about calling out the great and the gormless who mindlessly regurgitate right-wing tropes, propagate groundless rumours and generally talk out of their tight, white arses since they don't have a clue how easily they are being played.

Look at thes peacefull protesters at the Bell Hotel all with there faces covered hiding there identity ? where have we seen these protesters before.

 

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

If @BarraMarra you or anyone else can come up with evidence that the leftist, pro-immigration counterprotesters committed acts of violence or were arrested at the Bell Hotel in Epping, then maybe it will make a difference to me.

 

But he can't. Neither can you nor anyone else. Why? Because it didn't happen. The locals didn't kick off either. It was the far-right agitators that 'bussed' themselves in to create a confrontation.

 

 

What am I about? A leftist luvvie? A Muslim fanboy? A pro-immigration agitator? A Kremlin bot?

 

I'm about calling out the great and the gormless who mindlessly regurgitate right-wing tropes, propagate groundless rumours and generally talk out of their tight, white arses since they don't have a clue how easily they are being played.

 

Tight, white arses! Your slip is showing more and more.

 

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

Tight, white arses! Your slip is showing more and more.

 

Is yours brown then? Sorry.

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

 

 

Antifa... ROFLMAO

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

Is yours brown then? Sorry.

 

You certainly are.